UMPI BLS - Management Minor and History Minor (My Path)

[ss20ts]

So you are telling me that there are no students who have ever taken even 1 college credit applying to UMPI?  I find that hard to believe.  I know from working where I do that MOST students who come into a program HAVE taken some credits before (maybe 75% have at least 1cr).  There just aren't that many people out there who want to go to college that have never gone to CC or done something to get credits at some point in their lives.  They may not have much - I've seen plenty of people who never got past developmental-level courses in Math or English; I've seen plenty who have taken 1 or 2 courses - but very few people have NO credits at all.  Especially considering UMPI YourPace requires you to have 2 years of work experience and be 20 years old, so it's not like these are people fresh out of high school.

No where did I say no students haven't transferred credit into UMPI. UMPI is designed for the local folks in that region of Maine. Their whole approach to YourPace is catered specifically for working adults in Maine. That's word for word from the creator of the program's mouth. This region of Maine is VERY rural so no many people living there have not previously attended college. The program was purposely designed for people who have never attended college which is a large chunk of the population of Maine. Their focus is not on people outside of Maine. They develop everything with a reason and a purpose. There's a reason they have an MAOL and not an MBA. They won't be offering an MBA any time soon from what I was told because they don't want to cannibalize degrees from other U of M's and the grad school has an online MBA already. So they do have a plan and a reason which people outside of UMPI's staff may or may not know.

[dfrecore]

So you are telling me that there are no students who have ever taken even 1 college credit applying to UMPI?  I find that hard to believe.  I know from working where I do that MOST students who come into a program HAVE taken some credits before (maybe 75% have at least 1cr).  There just aren't that many people out there who want to go to college that have never gone to CC or done something to get credits at some point in their lives.  They may not have much - I've seen plenty of people who never got past developmental-level courses in Math or English; I've seen plenty who have taken 1 or 2 courses - but very few people have NO credits at all.  Especially considering UMPI YourPace requires you to have 2 years of work experience and be 20 years old, so it's not like these are people fresh out of high school.

No where did I say no students haven't transferred credit into UMPI. UMPI is designed for the local folks in that region of Maine. Their whole approach to YourPace is catered specifically for working adults in Maine. That's word for word from the creator of the program's mouth. This region of Maine is VERY rural so no many people living there have not previously attended college. The program was purposely designed for people who have never attended college which is a large chunk of the population of Maine. Their focus is not on people outside of Maine. They develop everything with a reason and a purpose. There's a reason they have an MAOL and not an MBA. They won't be offering an MBA any time soon from what I was told because they don't want to cannibalize degrees from other U of M's and the grad school has an online MBA already. So they do have a plan and a reason which people outside of UMPI's staff may or may not know.

You said most of their students aren't bringing in credits.

The number of Maine residents who have a college degree is almost exactly the national average - 33%.  Another 30% have some college or an associates degree.  Aroostook County is still 19.2% with a college degree, and 33% with some college/associates.  So my guess is, plenty of people in that area are coming in with SOME credits - and it would make sense to make the degrees easier to understand with this in mind (and really, it would make sense to make the degrees easier to understand even if nobody had transfer credits).

Making the degree easier to understand helps EVERYONE.

[ss20ts]

So you are telling me that there are no students who have ever taken even 1 college credit applying to UMPI?  I find that hard to believe.  I know from working where I do that MOST students who come into a program HAVE taken some credits before (maybe 75% have at least 1cr).  There just aren't that many people out there who want to go to college that have never gone to CC or done something to get credits at some point in their lives.  They may not have much - I've seen plenty of people who never got past developmental-level courses in Math or English; I've seen plenty who have taken 1 or 2 courses - but very few people have NO credits at all.  Especially considering UMPI YourPace requires you to have 2 years of work experience and be 20 years old, so it's not like these are people fresh out of high school.

No where did I say no students haven't transferred credit into UMPI. UMPI is designed for the local folks in that region of Maine. Their whole approach to YourPace is catered specifically for working adults in Maine. That's word for word from the creator of the program's mouth. This region of Maine is VERY rural so no many people living there have not previously attended college. The program was purposely designed for people who have never attended college which is a large chunk of the population of Maine. Their focus is not on people outside of Maine. They develop everything with a reason and a purpose. There's a reason they have an MAOL and not an MBA. They won't be offering an MBA any time soon from what I was told because they don't want to cannibalize degrees from other U of M's and the grad school has an online MBA already. So they do have a plan and a reason which people outside of UMPI's staff may or may not know.

You said most of their students aren't bringing in credits.

The number of Maine residents who have a college degree is almost exactly the national average - 33%.  Another 30% have some college or an associates degree.  Aroostook County is still 19.2% with a college degree, and 33% with some college/associates.  So my guess is, plenty of people in that area are coming in with SOME credits - and it would make sense to make the degrees easier to understand with this in mind (and really, it would make sense to make the degrees easier to understand even if nobody had transfer credits).

Making the degree easier to understand helps EVERYONE.

Most isn't all.

[dfrecore]

So you are telling me that there are no students who have ever taken even 1 college credit applying to UMPI?  I find that hard to believe.  I know from working where I do that MOST students who come into a program HAVE taken some credits before (maybe 75% have at least 1cr).  There just aren't that many people out there who want to go to college that have never gone to CC or done something to get credits at some point in their lives.  They may not have much - I've seen plenty of people who never got past developmental-level courses in Math or English; I've seen plenty who have taken 1 or 2 courses - but very few people have NO credits at all.  Especially considering UMPI YourPace requires you to have 2 years of work experience and be 20 years old, so it's not like these are people fresh out of high school.

No where did I say no students haven't transferred credit into UMPI. UMPI is designed for the local folks in that region of Maine. Their whole approach to YourPace is catered specifically for working adults in Maine. That's word for word from the creator of the program's mouth. This region of Maine is VERY rural so no many people living there have not previously attended college. The program was purposely designed for people who have never attended college which is a large chunk of the population of Maine. Their focus is not on people outside of Maine. They develop everything with a reason and a purpose. There's a reason they have an MAOL and not an MBA. They won't be offering an MBA any time soon from what I was told because they don't want to cannibalize degrees from other U of M's and the grad school has an online MBA already. So they do have a plan and a reason which people outside of UMPI's staff may or may not know.

You said most of their students aren't bringing in credits.

The number of Maine residents who have a college degree is almost exactly the national average - 33%.  Another 30% have some college or an associates degree.  Aroostook County is still 19.2% with a college degree, and 33% with some college/associates.  So my guess is, plenty of people in that area are coming in with SOME credits - and it would make sense to make the degrees easier to understand with this in mind (and really, it would make sense to make the degrees easier to understand even if nobody had transfer credits).

Making the degree easier to understand helps EVERYONE.

Most isn't all.

Still doesn't address my overall point - MAKING THE DEGREE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE, credits transferring in or not. I don't know why this is an argument at all.  This is stupid.

[LevelUP]

I wouldn't count on schools making it easier to understand their degrees anytime soon.

We have to work with what we got and use student experiences to help to figure things out.

UMPI has free electives for each of their degrees, so if you transfer in credits, there is a place for them to go if they don't fit anywhere else.  However, if you have lots of credits, there may be no place for them to go as with any other school.

[ss20ts]

Still doesn't address my overall point - MAKING THE DEGREE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE, credits transferring in or not. I don't know why this is an argument at all.  This is stupid.

Do you feel better now that you've literally yelled at me? Again if you have a question about a degree program contact the school. It's not that difficult. The amount of time you've spent on here complaining you could have called and had all of your questions answered.

[dfrecore]

Still doesn't address my overall point - MAKING THE DEGREE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND IS GOOD FOR EVERYONE, credits transferring in or not. I don't know why this is an argument at all.  This is stupid.

Do you feel better now that you've literally yelled at me? Again if you have a question about a degree program contact the school. It's not that difficult. The amount of time you've spent on here complaining you could have called and had all of your questions answered.

The point is, it should be clear on their website.  I'm sure I'm not the only person that feels this way.  I don't want to call them.  I'm doing research online, and I am not getting good info.  I'm speaking for not just myself here - when a school is unclear about their degree plans, it turns people off.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to defend them.  You didn't put their website together, did you?  So you're not responsible for them, and I'm not personally blaming you for their lack of clarity.