Tesu computer science degree

[rachel83az]

The OP has a military discount, so the TECEPs can be used instead of taking TESU courses which are far cheaper. However, the OP needs 24 total TESU credits instead of 16 credits to avoid the residency waiver.

Cost Breakdown
$780 5 TECEPS (So you don't have to pay residency wavier)
$312 2 Extra TECEPs or get RA credit elsewhere
$750 Software Engineering TESU course (or pay $231 and gamble on passing the TECEP networking)
$750 Cornerstone TESU course
$750 Capstone TESU course
$298 Graduation Fees
$3640 TOTAL

You're right! I'm not sure how I missed the whole military thing. TECEPs are a better option than foreign credits, if you get the military discount.

[dfrecore]

The OP has a military discount, so the TECEPs can be used instead of taking TESU courses which are far cheaper. However, the OP needs 24 total TESU credits instead of 16 credits to avoid the residency waiver.

Cost Breakdown
$780 5 TECEPS (So you don't have to pay residency wavier)
$312 2 Extra TECEPs or get RA credit elsewhere
$750 Software Engineering TESU course (or pay $231 and gamble on passing the TECEP networking)
$750 Cornerstone TESU course
$750 Capstone TESU course
$298 Graduation Fees
$3640 TOTAL

You're right! I'm not sure how I missed the whole military thing. TECEPs are a better option than foreign credits, if you get the military discount.

It's not the military discount that makes the difference, it's the active-duty military which makes TECEP's count for residency.

[bluebooger]

what does
Course Expected
mean under
Part G. AOS Electives
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

does it mean 18 credits of "electives" are required, but they expect the electives to be
System Analysis & Design I
Database Management
Management Information Systems
Software Engineering

and from TESU's catalog

B. Computer Science Electives (18 Credits)
For computer science electives, please contact an academic advisor.

https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...r-science/

so is the academic advisor going to say "yes, they are electives, but we strongly expect to see ..." what's in the wiki ?

or do they pretty much let you choose any upper level CS course
like those in the lower part of Part G. AOS Electives
or
CS360 - Mobile Architecture and Programming
https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-...5d9c8a7237
or others
while choosing none of the courses in the top part

just confused by the phrasing "expected"

[dfrecore]

what does
Course Expected
mean under
Part G. AOS Electives          
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

does it mean 18 credits of "electives" are required, but they expect the electives to be  
System Analysis & Design I
Database Management
Management Information Systems
Software Engineering

and from TESU's catalog            

B. Computer Science Electives (18 Credits)
    For computer science electives, please contact an academic advisor.

https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...r-science/

so is the academic advisor going to say "yes, they are electives, but we strongly expect to see ..." what's in the wiki ?

or do they pretty much let you choose any upper level CS course
like those in the lower part of  Part G. AOS Electives        
or
CS360 - Mobile Architecture and Programming
https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-...5d9c8a7237
or others    
while choosing none of the courses in the top part            

just confused by the phrasing "expected"

"Expected" here is what the person who created the wiki chose; it's probably not what I would have chosen to call it, and TESU certainly doesn't "expect" those courses.

As for being able to use other UL CS courses, you can choose what you want, but you need to be careful that the course you want to take is not an ITS/CYB/CAP course (what TESU might bring them in as) because they won't take "applied" courses, only "theory" ones for the BACS degree.  It needs to be something that comes in as COS/CIS, and even then, I'd ask TESU what they'd bring this course in as.

Also, TESU will bring in courses as UL that they also have LL courses in.  So if you found an UL Software Engineering course (like Saylor's) and also a LL Software Engineering course (like SDC's), you can do both of them (and we recommend those both, because you can use the LL course to study for the UL course).

[bjcheung77]

@bluebooger, you can change the word expected to example. Examples are all options you can select from, the main reason we have these examples is these are known to come through and they're probably the cheaper, easier, faster option to select from alternative credit providers that have ACE recommendation. It really depends on what courses that interest you most for these electives and AOS options.

[LevelUP]

what does
Course Expected
mean under
Part G. AOS Electives          
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...ience_Plan

does it mean 18 credits of "electives" are required, but they expect the electives to be  
System Analysis & Design I
Database Management
Management Information Systems
Software Engineering

and from TESU's catalog            

B. Computer Science Electives (18 Credits)
    For computer science electives, please contact an academic advisor.

https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/curre...r-science/

so is the academic advisor going to say "yes, they are electives, but we strongly expect to see ..." what's in the wiki ?

or do they pretty much let you choose any upper level CS course
like those in the lower part of  Part G. AOS Electives        
or
CS360 - Mobile Architecture and Programming
https://www.snhu.edu/admission/academic-...5d9c8a7237
or others    
while choosing none of the courses in the top part            

just confused by the phrasing "expected"

Part F contains one UL CS course.

Part G you need 4 UL CS courses. (or 15 CS UL total)

Basically, the most efficient way to do UL requirements is DB, MIS, and Systems Analysis at SDC.

Then you pick from Saylor Software Engineering, Network TECEP, or do a TESU UL CS course.

It would probably look cleaner to put CS UL or CS in the courses expected, much like this degree plan
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

If you look hard enough, all the degree plans have flaws. They are meant to provide a good starting point for planning a degree.

[bluebooger]

It would probably look cleaner to put CS UL or CS in the courses expected, much like this degree plan

but the courses "expected" confusion would still exist            

the "most efficient way to do UL requirements" isn't a problem for me            
I was more concerned about the use of the word "expected" and if the expected courses is what the advisors were expecting to see as electives                     
I don't mind doing it the less efficient and more expensive way if that way is more interesting and just not crazy expensive          
like that snhu course i linked -- sure, its a little expensive, it takes a little while, but I'd rather do it because it looks more interesting than the four expected courses in the CS wiki              
* System Analysis & Design I
* Database Management
* Management Information Systems
* Software Engineering 
                           
its nice to know that in this case expected means example              
but yeah, dfrecore's point about "they won't take 'applied' courses, only 'theory' ones for the BACS degree." is a good one

[LevelUP]

It would probably look cleaner to put CS UL or CS in the courses expected, much like this degree plan

but the courses "expected" confusion would still exist            

the  "most efficient way to do UL requirements" isn't a problem for me            
I was more concerned about the use of the word "expected" and if the expected courses is what the advisors were expecting to see as electives                     
I don't mind doing it the less efficient and more expensive way if that way is more interesting and just not crazy expensive          
like that snhu course i linked -- sure, its a little expensive, it takes a little while, but I'd rather do it because it looks more interesting than the four expected courses in the CS wiki              
* System Analysis & Design I
* Database Management
* Management Information Systems
* Software Engineering 
                           
its nice to know that in this case expected means example              
but yeah, dfrecore's point about "they won't take 'applied' courses, only 'theory' ones for the BACS degree." is a good one

For the TESU plans, all the courses are confirmed to work for each degree.

SNHU's CS360 - Mobile Architecture and Programming may come in as LL and is not confirmed to work with TESU CS.

You can ask TESU advising what that SNHU course will come in as though they probably won't be able to tell before you transfer it in.

You could do the IBM Full Stack cert for free and get 18 credits with TESU, including 3 UL credits.
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Coursera

[dfrecore]

It would probably look cleaner to put CS UL or CS in the courses expected, much like this degree plan

but the courses "expected" confusion would still exist            

For the TESU plans, all the courses are confirmed to work for each degree.

SNHU's CS360 - Mobile Architecture and Programming may come in as LL and is not confirmed to work with TESU CS.

You can ask TESU advising what that SNHU course will come in as though they probably won't be able to tell before you transfer it in.

If a course is considered UL at a 4yr school, there's a 99% chance TESU will consider it UL as well - they've been like that for many years.

The question is more of an equivalency question - as in, what will the prefix be.  In this case, I would compare it to 2 other courses that TESU offers with the word "mobile" in the title: 1) CYB4400: Mobile Forensics and 2) ITS3400: Wireless and Mobile Networking.  They are listed under the "Cybersecurity" section and have a CYB and ITS prefix.  That means that these will not work in the BACS degree.  So I don't think that the SNHU course will work there either - it will probably have a CYB or ITS prefix as well.

That's how you have to look at things and make a guesstimate based on available evidence.

[rachel83az]

I would actually guess that SNHU's CS360 should work for the BACS. Why? Because it's mobile ARCHITECTURE and PROGRAMMING. Architecture and Programming are both required types of courses for TESU's BACS and are very very different than forensics and networking.