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TESC Degree choices Humanities vs. History
#1
Hello,
I'm enrolled at TESC and requested transcripts for BAs in History and Humanities. I'm considering my choices.

My courses I've taken thus far...
American Government, US History 1, Humanities, Analyzing & Interpreting Literature, English Literature, US History 2, Civil War, Management, Supervision, Intro to Business, Western Civ 1, Intro to Computing, Info Systems, Western Civ 2, Sociology, Art, Social Sciences & History, Astronomy, English Comp w/ Essay (waiting on score) 9 FEMAs, Credits so far - 75 (or 81 if I pass the English)

Right now I'm working on CLEP College Math for 6 credits.

For both degrees they say I need 3 more credits in Natural Sciences because Introduction to Computers is considered duplicate credit. Will the extra 3 credits from college math be able to fill this hole?

For the history degree I need 3 credits non-western history. Anyone have any suggestions for this one?
I will need 15 credits upper level 300-400 credits for the History Elective section, the only CBE course I could find was Rise and Fall of SU. Are there any more, and does anyone have any suggestions for how to fill these. (I looked into Louisana State and besides there courses Colonial America, The American Revolution, World War II, and The Vietnam War seemed like they might make my US history 1&2 duplicate credit).

For the Humanities Degree I need 24 credits.
18 must be at the 300-400 level. 2 college level courses can be at the 100 level. They must be in 3 seperate subject levels. Does anyone have any course suggestions for the 300-400 level?
Has anyone on the forum completed this degree? If so how did you structure your major.
Part of the 24 I have to go is to "complete 6 semester hours of Humanities coursework at any college level." What does this mean?
Has anyone passed the LIB-495 that is highly recomended? Any suggestions.

Generally, I would like your opinion as to which degree I should follow, I enjoy both areas, but feel sorta lost as to how to continue on.

Thank you for your opinions and suggestions ahead of time.
Operalady's daughter

Passed:

American Gov, US History 1, US History 2, Computing, Info Systems, Humanities, Sociology, Art, Western Civ I, Western Civ II, Social Sciences and History, Civil War, Business, Vietnam, A&I Lit, Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, American Lit, English Lit, Astronomy, Supervision, 1 FEMA, Total -79
#2
operalady Wrote:Hello,
I'm enrolled at TESC and requested transcripts for BAs in History and Humanities. I'm considering my choices.

My courses I've taken thus far...
American Government, US History 1, Humanities, Analyzing & Interpreting Literature, English Literature, US History 2, Civil War, Management, Supervision, Intro to Business, Western Civ 1, Intro to Computing, Info Systems, Western Civ 2, Sociology, Art, Social Sciences & History, Astronomy, English Comp w/ Essay (waiting on score) 9 FEMAs, Credits so far - 75 (or 81 if I pass the English)

Right now I'm working on CLEP College Math for 6 credits.

For both degrees they say I need 3 more credits in Natural Sciences because Introduction to Computers is considered duplicate credit. Will the extra 3 credits from college math be able to fill this hole? Yes it should.

For the history degree I need 3 credits non-western history. Anyone have any suggestions for this one?
I will need 15 credits upper level 300-400 credits for the History Elective section, the only CBE course I could find was Rise and Fall of SU. Are there any more, and does anyone have any suggestions for how to fill these. (I looked into Louisana State and besides there courses Colonial America, The American Revolution, World War II, and The Vietnam War seemed like they might make my US history 1&2 duplicate credit). You might want to check out Ohio State University Correspondence Course List

For the Humanities Degree I need 24 credits.
18 must be at the 300-400 level. 2 college level courses can be at the 100 level. They must be in 3 seperate subject levels. Does anyone have any course suggestions for the 300-400 level? [COLOR="DarkGreen"]My 300 and 400 came from course work I had already completed. They took many of my Art classes, Phil courses, ID courses, Architecture classes and Photography classes. Now I had Digital Photography at a CC level and they gave me an 370 for that class. Also the DSST Business Ethics test is over a 300, and you could find an Org Communication class because that comes in at upper level also. All in all I really did not have that hard of a time to fill up the 300 to 400 section. You might want to check out BYU Independent Study courses because they have a few upper level Art history classes. BYU Independent Study - University Courses
Also look at University of Idaho
Phil 320 History of Ancient and Medieval Philosophy
Phil 321 History of Modern Philosophy
Phil 361 Professional Ethics: Agricultural Ethics
Phil 450 Ethics in Science
Independent Study in Idaho[/COLOR]

Has anyone on the forum completed this degree? Yes I have.
If so how did you structure your major. 6 semester hours of Humanities coursework at any college level." What does this mean? Is that the section that is the 100 level courses? I also had alot of Art courses left over and they went into General Electives and Free Electives. I had paintings, drawing, humanities and lit classes left over.
Has anyone passed the LIB-495 that is highly recomended? No I did not take that course.Any suggestions.

Generally, I would like your opinion as to which degree I should follow, I enjoy both areas, but feel sorta lost as to how to continue on. A degree in Humanities worked out the best for me because I could use all the course that I had already taken and it still keeps me in the area the I want to be in. I really have enjoy Humanities alot.

Thank you for your opinions and suggestions ahead of time.
Operalady's daughter

Good luck with your degree.
"I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion."~ Henry David

BA Humanities - TESC
AAS Construction and Facilities Support - TESC
AA Interior Design - MCC
AA LS - MCC
Certificate Interior Design - MCC
Certificate Management - MCC
#3
Here are the TESC test equivalent for DSST test that could fit into a Humanities degree.

REL-405-DE Introduction to World Religions (3)
ART-166-DE Art of the Western World (3)
ENG-201-DE Technical Writing (3)
PHI-287-DE Ethics in America (3)
COM-209-DE Principles of Public Speaking (3)

Clep exams
LIT-208/209-CE English Literature (6)
LIT-291/292-CE Analyzing and Interpreting Literature (6)
LIT-111/112-CE American Literature (6 )

Here are the DSST test for a degree in History

HIS-309-DE An Introduction to the Modern Middle East (3)
HIS-351-DE A History of the Vietnam War (3)
HIS-386-DE Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union (3)

Hope this helps.
"I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion."~ Henry David

BA Humanities - TESC
AAS Construction and Facilities Support - TESC
AA Interior Design - MCC
AA LS - MCC
Certificate Interior Design - MCC
Certificate Management - MCC
#4
Thank you so much Allison for your help!!! Big Grin

Passed:

American Gov, US History 1, US History 2, Computing, Info Systems, Humanities, Sociology, Art, Western Civ I, Western Civ II, Social Sciences and History, Civil War, Business, Vietnam, A&I Lit, Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice, American Lit, English Lit, Astronomy, Supervision, 1 FEMA, Total -79
#5
You are welcome!
"I would rather sit on a pumpkin and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a velvet cushion."~ Henry David

BA Humanities - TESC
AAS Construction and Facilities Support - TESC
AA Interior Design - MCC
AA LS - MCC
Certificate Interior Design - MCC
Certificate Management - MCC
#6
Here is a complete degree plan for History. Somebody created it here, I forget who but it works perfect.


https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=...utput=html
Cleps Passed:
Analyzing and Interpreting Literature
Information Systems and Computer Applications
American Government
Introductory Psychology
Introductory Sociology
Social Sciences and History
History of the United States I
History of the United States II
Western Civilization I
Western Civilization II
Macroeconomics

DSST Passed:
A History of the Vietnam War (3)
Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union (3)
#7
If you want the actual spreadsheet let me know.
Cleps Passed:
Analyzing and Interpreting Literature
Information Systems and Computer Applications
American Government
Introductory Psychology
Introductory Sociology
Social Sciences and History
History of the United States I
History of the United States II
Western Civilization I
Western Civilization II
Macroeconomics

DSST Passed:
A History of the Vietnam War (3)
Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union (3)
#8
LOL, My spreadsheet lives!!!

Anyway, for non western history you have 3 options:

1) Modern Middle East DSST
2) Soviet Union DSST
3) TESC Course

The Soviet Colossus by Michael Kort, The Modern Middle East by James Gelvin, and A History of the Modern Middle East by William Cleveland are the primary resources I used to pass these tests. After I read these texts I did the IC repeatedly and passed them both.

Soviets is by far the easier test as it is more closely related to mainstream western history and it has a shorter timeline. Modern Middle east is something of a misnomer as it essentially covers the middle east from the time of Mohammed to the present. It's "modern" in a sense as that part of the world has had people living in it and thus history going on for many thousands of years. Modern has become synonymous with "today," hence all the pissed off people in the specific exam feedback section who were blind-sided when they took the exam. Wink
DEGREES EARNED: [SIZE="1"]
BA, History, TESC '10
AAS, Mechanics and Maintenance, TESC '10
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TESTS PASSED:[SIZE="1"]
CLEP Social Sciences & History - 70/50
CLEP American Government - 65/50
CLEP English Composition General - 68/50
CLEP A & I Literature 70/50
CLEP Sociology 73/50
CLEP College Math 74/50
CLEP Intro Psychology 72/50
CLEP College Algebra 65/50
CLEP Macroeconomics 73/50
CLEP Microeconomics 70/50
CLEP Western Civ. I 79/50
CLEP Western Civ. II 70/50
CLEP US History I 79/50
CLEP US History II 78/50
DSST Technical Writing 63/46
DSST Intro to Computing 463/400
DSST Substance Abuse 463/400
DSST Fundamentals of Algebra 433/400
DSST World Religions 467/400
DSST The Civil War and Reconstruction 68/47
DSST A History of the Vietnam War 78/44
DSST An Introduction to the Modern Middle East 80/47
DSST Western Europe since 1945 71/47
DSST Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union 70/45

[SIZE="2"]ON DECK:[/SIZE]

A B.E. or an MBA
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