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mpie18 Wrote:I will not be doing the Cybersecurity DSST. Any thoughts on the CSU Global Cloud Computing course, as well as TECEP Networking?
I'm still studying for the Networking TECEP and the extent on my knowledge of the CSU GCC is reading Sanantone's posts, so I'll defer to the more experienced folks for those.
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The SL C++ class transfers as COS-213 (4LL Credits) C++ Programming.
Cloud Computing transferred as MIS440 (Cloud Computing) and doesn't overlap with anything that we typically use. As to which I would choose, it really depends alot on your current knowledge level.
The networking TECEP is probably in the knowledge range of a network+ certification, but much less than a CCNA. The largest challenge with it for most people will be that some of the questions are in regards to dated technology (Twinax, thicknet, etc). If you know the TCP/IP model and OSI model already, I would say this would be the one to take. The primary benefits are the cost is less and it can be used for residency credits.
The cloud computing course is not very technical. It is more focused on the on the buzz words we have in IT (IaaS, SaaS, etc). I would say if you have no exposure to either of these topics this one would be the one I'd suggest. Mostly because CSU provides a really good blueprint for study and the course is not very demanding. The networking course I found easy with a networking background, but it was very much a technical course. This course is more business oriented and I would say if you really understand the definitions of the terms involved, you will pass.
Are you using the per credit plan? If so, I'd recommend swapping the intro to computers DSST with the computers concepts and applications TECEP. It is very manageable and will count towards the credits. They applied my Saylor Intro to Programming course as intro to computers and put the TECEP under my LL area of study requirements.
Let me know if I can help in anyway.
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mednat Wrote:The SL C++ class transfers as COS-213 (4LL Credits) C++ Programming.
Cloud Computing transferred as MIS440 (Cloud Computing) and doesn't overlap with anything that we typically use. As to which I would choose, it really depends alot on your current knowledge level.
The networking TECEP is probably in the knowledge range of a network+ certification, but much less than a CCNA. The largest challenge with it for most people will be that some of the questions are in regards to dated technology (Twinax, thicknet, etc). If you know the TCP/IP model and OSI model already, I would say this would be the one to take. The primary benefits are the cost is less and it can be used for residency credits.
The cloud computing course is not very technical. It is more focused on the on the buzz words we have in IT (IaaS, SaaS, etc). I would say if you have no exposure to either of these topics this one would be the one I'd suggest. Mostly because CSU provides a really good blueprint for study and the course is not very demanding. The networking course I found easy with a networking background, but it was very much a technical course. This course is more business oriented and I would say if you really understand the definitions of the terms involved, you will pass.
Are you using the per credit plan? If so, I'd recommend swapping the intro to computers DSST with the computers concepts and applications TECEP. It is very manageable and will count towards the credits. They applied my Saylor Intro to Programming course as intro to computers and put the TECEP under my LL area of study requirements.
Let me know if I can help in anyway.
Then I may just do the Cloud Computing course. I don't have much background in these topics. I figured forking over the extra cash for the CSU Global CBE's is paying for the straightforwardness of the content and exams. Would you say this would be the case for their other courses?
As for intro to computers, I'm not using the per credit tuition plan. I'm just going to enroll for the year and take a course with TESC for the GPA.
So it looks like I'll be taking SL's intro to programming (4 credits LL), TEEX's Cybersecurity for Everyone (2 LL credits), DSST's MIS (3 UL) CSU Global's Systems Analysis & Design (3 UL), Information Systems Deign and Management (3 UL), and Cloud Computing (3 UL). So, that's 18 credits total for the area of study, 12 of which is upper level.
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mpie18 Wrote:Then I may just do the Cloud Computing course. I don't have much background in these topics. I figured forking over the extra cash for the CSU Global CBE's is paying for the straightforwardness of the content and exams. Would you say this would be the case for their other courses?
As for intro to computers, I'm not using the per credit tuition plan. I'm just going to enroll for the year and take a course with TESC for the GPA.
So it looks like I'll be taking SL's intro to programming (4 credits LL), TEEX's Cybersecurity for Everyone (2 LL credits), DSST's MIS (3 UL) CSU Global's Systems Analysis & Design (3 UL), Information Systems Deign and Management (3 UL), and Cloud Computing (3 UL). So, that's 18 credits total for the area of study, 12 of which is upper level.
I would suggest trying the Systems Analysis & Design first with CSU and see how you like the format. There aren't any real CBE alternatives for this one and if you dislike their format you can change your plan to do the Networking TECEP. I don't think it's necessarily because it costs more that it's laid out better, I just think CSU did a really good job setting up their CBE program. Everything (except transcript issues and other administrative stuff) was very well thought out and all of my interactions with staff there has been positive.
You get a pretest at the beginning to determine where you are, study material, and a free retake of the CBE. I was extremely happy with the two I took, and would much prefer to take them over another TECEP, even with the essays CSU requires (which actually helped my score). Studying for TECEPs is a skill that you learn, it's not exactly intuitive at first (but it is COMPLETELY doable). Learning to use the syllabus to develop your own study material is something that gets easier with time, but since you've opted for the tution plan -- don't bother.
If you don't need the credits, I would suggest the penn foster strategic management course instead of the TECEP as well. Alot of people have said the TECEP is managable, but the PF course is a breeze.
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mednat Wrote:I would suggest trying the Systems Analysis & Design first with CSU and see how you like the format. There aren't any real CBE alternatives for this one and if you dislike their format you can change your plan to do the Networking TECEP. I don't think it's necessarily because it costs more that it's laid out better, I just think CSU did a really good job setting up their CBE program. Everything (except transcript issues and other administrative stuff) was very well thought out and all of my interactions with staff there has been positive.
You get a pretest at the beginning to determine where you are, study material, and a free retake of the CBE. I was extremely happy with the two I took, and would much prefer to take them over another TECEP, even with the essays CSU requires (which actually helped my score). Studying for TECEPs is a skill that you learn, it's not exactly intuitive at first (but it is COMPLETELY doable). Learning to use the syllabus to develop your own study material is something that gets easier with time, but since you've opted for the tution plan -- don't bother.
If you don't need the credits, I would suggest the penn foster strategic management course instead of the TECEP as well. Alot of people have said the TECEP is managable, but the PF course is a breeze.
I will do that and see how I feel about CSU Global's CBEs. As for strategic management, I already studied for it, so I might as well take it in September.
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Hey guys, just another update. I completed DSST intro to computers, Saylor corporate comm., and TECEP strategic management. I pass the first two and am waiting for my TECEP to be graded still. Now I'm on to DSST MIS and then one of the TEEX courses.
Also, I never heard back from TESC about the course approvals, but I will enroll soon so I'm sure they'll actually get back to me when I pay my dues.
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I actually heard back form the TESC advisers regarding my AP scores and TEEX. They admitted to skipping over my AP score, and awarded 6 credits for it. As for TEEX, they metnioned it is used as business elective credit. I responded saying that many students recently received credit for it in the CIS area of study, and am awaiting response for that.
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I think you got some incorrect info regarding where the TEEX courses will fall into your degree plan at TESC:
Cybersecurity for Everyone is CIS-299 (LL)
Cybersecurity for Business Professionals is MAN-299 (LL)
Cybersecurity for IT Professionals is CIS-344 (UL)
Sorry that wasn't caught before you planned everything out, but hope it helps.
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dfrecore Wrote:I think you got some incorrect info regarding where the TEEX courses will fall into your degree plan at TESC:
Cybersecurity for Everyone is CIS-299 (LL)
Cybersecurity for Business Professionals is MAN-299 (LL)
Cybersecurity for IT Professionals is CIS-344 (UL)
Sorry that wasn't caught before you planned everything out, but hope it helps.
Cybersecurity for Business Professionals was applied for me as CIS-299(LL) as well, but did not duplicate the other CIS-299.
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dfrecore Wrote:I think you got some incorrect info regarding where the TEEX courses will fall into your degree plan at TESC:
Cybersecurity for Everyone is CIS-299 (LL)
Cybersecurity for Business Professionals is MAN-299 (LL)
Cybersecurity for IT Professionals is CIS-344 (UL)
Sorry that wasn't caught before you planned everything out, but hope it helps.
Hey guys, wanted to provide a quick update. I took C++ programming through Straighterline, which is 4 credits at TESC, thus I wanted to use TEEX Cybersecurity for Everyone since it is 2 credits (2+4=6 credits). An advisor at TESC told me only Cybersecurity for Business Professionals and IT Professionals can be used for the CIS area electives. This is AFTER I took the TEEX course and sent my transcript. So now my academic evaluation is all mixed up now and I'm trying my best to convince them to transcribe the TEEX Cybersecurity for Everyone as a CIS course.
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