Most underemployed majors according to the U.S. Census American Community Survey

[LevelUP]

I watched a documentary a few months ago on Zoomers skipping college to go to this social media influencer house. It was kind of like a training and networking camp. Social media degrees are more geared toward those who want to manage social media accounts for organizations.

How do you get rich? By digging for gold or selling the shovels?

All you have to do is have a house, take in 10 people at $10,000 per month, and that $100,000 per month to train them to be so-called "influencers."

What are these kids buying? An experience. A chance to get rich being an influencer. (failure rate probably 75%+)

$10,000 is a lot of money, but so is $250,000 for an MBA.

Education is gambling because people are gambling that the time and money they spend on education will pay off. Rachel83az made the point earlier in the thread that "there is a huge, huge difference between going to a Liberal Arts college for $100k and getting a Liberal Arts degree from UMPI for less than $3k."

[ifomonay]

One of the most common things to happen on DegreeForum is that someone chooses a bachelor's major like liberal studies instead of a major like computer science, in whole or in part to reduce time to completion.

In the worst case scenario, you'll have to re-do your bachelor in CS to get a job.

At my previous company, they fired nearly everyone who doesn't hold a CS degree. That includes me.

I wasn't going to reply to this thread, because everyone debated enough on this topic. However, something you wrote caught my eye. I saw that you've been taking a lot of heat over your contention that you need a CS degree to be employable. What you said about your previous company about how they fired every non-CS grad. Well, they did exactly the same at my company. There was a direct order to fire all engineers and developers (software) who did not have an engineering degree or CS degree. They said anyone with IS, CIS, MIS, IT or other tech-related degrees will be fired as well. They must have "Computer Science" or any "Engineering" degree, no exceptions. That's why when I went back to do my Ph.D., I  limited them to Ph.D. CS or Ph.D EE (my undergrad degree), none of this Ph.D in IT or similar was on my radar.

[freeloader]

One of the most common things to happen on DegreeForum is that someone chooses a bachelor's major like liberal studies instead of a major like computer science, in whole or in part to reduce time to completion.

In the worst case scenario, you'll have to re-do your bachelor in CS to get a job.

At my previous company, they fired nearly everyone who doesn't hold a CS degree. That includes me.

I wasn't going to reply to this thread, because everyone debated enough on this topic. However, something you wrote caught my eye. I saw that you've been taking a lot of heat over your contention that you need a CS degree to be employable. What you said about your previous company about how they fired every non-CS grad. Well, they did exactly the same at my company. There was a direct order to fire all engineers and developers (software) who did not have an engineering degree or CS degree. They said anyone with IS, CIS, MIS, IT or other tech-related degrees will be fired as well. They must have "Computer Science" or any "Engineering" degree, no exceptions. That's why when I went back to do my Ph.D., I  limited them to Ph.D. CS or Ph.D EE (my undergrad degree), none of this Ph.D in IT or similar was on my radar.

That’s really interesting. I would love to know if what was driving this action by your employers.  

My first thought: if you hire based on skills, there are plenty of people in the domestic workforce. If you hire based on skills AND a degree requirement you can point to a shortage in the domestic labor market for that particular degree. Given that these are high tech jobs, you can then try to get workers on H-1B visas. One thing that is not in short supply in China and India is people with engineering degrees who would love to come work in the US. They get here and work for less money and they know that if they lose their visa sponsorship, they are going home, so they work harder, work more (unpaid), and don’t complain.

[sanantone]

I watched a documentary a few months ago on Zoomers skipping college to go to this social media influencer house. It was kind of like a training and networking camp. Social media degrees are more geared toward those who want to manage social media accounts for organizations.

How do you get rich? By digging for gold or selling the shovels?

All you have to do is have a house, take in 10 people at $10,000 per month, and that $100,000 per month to train them to be so-called "influencers."

What are these kids buying? An experience. A chance to get rich being an influencer. (failure rate probably 75%+)

$10,000 is a lot of money, but so is $250,000 for an MBA.

Education is gambling because people are gambling that the time and money they spend on education will pay off. Rachel83az made the point earlier in the thread that "there is a huge, huge difference between going to a Liberal Arts college for $100k and getting a Liberal Arts degree from UMPI for less than $3k."

The woman who's making money off of them doesn't have a degree in social media marketing, and she works independently. The degree didn't exist back in her day. Social media marketing degrees are intended for those who want to work for companies' social media and marketing departments or for those who want to do freelance work for companies. You don't go to college to become Andrew Tate. Andrew Tate's appeal comes from from being dumb, uneducated, and vile.