Posts: 171
Threads: 18
Likes Received: 0 in 0 posts
Likes Given: 0
Joined: Jun 2013
cookderosa Wrote:But, anyway, I'm not going to debate the nuances of cheating.
Providing a spread sheet that answers every ALEKS question is cheating, and allowing it on this forum lowers the integrity of this forum.
That's exactly what we're doing here, debating the nuances of "cheating". If you accuse someone of cheating or being a cheater, that's kind of what happens.
I'm pretty sure that spread sheet does not answer EVERY ALEKS question, as I've already said. They are personal notes from the OP, and the OP couldn't possibly have encountered EVERY possible question. (Please someone correct me if the spreadsheet does in fact somehow contain all the answers.)
Further...
It is not this discussion or the spread sheet which "lowers the integrity" of ALEKS (or the schools which grant credit for it). It is the fact that it is an unproctored, essentially "Open book" course - that lowers it's integrity.
On this board of all places, we really shouldn't be playing "The credits I earned are more valid than the credits you earned" game.
Total Newb 
- Enrolled at TESC for AA, eventually going for BA Psych.
Thanks to everyone who provides such awesome information on this site, I'm slowly getting the hang of this crazy process.
CLEP - Intro. Psych. - 63, A&I Literature - 72, Intro. Edu. Psych. - 59
ALEKS - Intermediate Algebra
FEMA - 12 Credits
![[-]](https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/images/collapse.png)
•
Posts: 10,921
Threads: 649
Likes Received: 1,841 in 1,139 posts
Likes Given: 428
Joined: Apr 2011
11-06-2013, 02:33 PM
(This post was last modified: 11-06-2013, 02:36 PM by sanantone.)
Prloko Wrote:I know the point is now moot, but I wanted to add my two cents to the thread.
I do agree that the spreadsheet was an attempt to defeat the purpose of the course, but in defense of the OP, I would like to point out that modern day stats classes are usually taught using scientific calculators/excel sheets. It's not about knowing the ridulous formulas anymore, it's about knowing the concept of "why" and also knowing "what" to plug in. Now if this was college algebra we're talking about than it's a different story; as far as stats goes college professors know that no one is going to be doing statistics in their field by pulling out pen and paper to find least squares or find variance. They're going to plug the figures in excel and let the computer spit it out. I don't see any English professors telling their students not to use spell-check or MS Word.
So in summary, yes the spreadsheet was created to try and "game" ALEKs (which according to the OPs own adminttance didn't work). But in all honesty, if you went and did the course in college, you're going to be using excel anyway.
I can attest to this. My graduate-level stats course only requires minor calculations. My professor is more concerned with us learning the theory than how to complete the math because stats can be done with Excel or SPSS. Our textbook is filled with examples of how to complete problems using Excel and SPSS.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
•
Posts: 10,296
Threads: 353
Likes Received: 60 in 22 posts
Likes Given: 1,406
Joined: Mar 2007
JBtesc Wrote:On this board of all places, we really shouldn't be playing "The credits I earned are more valid than the credits you earned" game.
The VERY CLEAR difference, is that a) exam questions are against the TOS and not shared. b) content shared here still has to be carried into an exam in your brain.
•
