Second Degree: BA in Religion

[tesu-acct-student]

Hi all, since applying for a second degree is free for alumni, I went ahead and did it. I am toying with the idea of getting a BA in Religion, and have copied/pasted the academic eval below. I know that I could go for a Master's but I have personal reasons for wanting possibly do this, then maybe do a master's later. I have the GPA for it but not sure I want to go that route at this time.

Right now the eval is showing 40 more credits, but I was hoping to have 33 credits (or fewer, obviously) in order to complete the degree, and to do them all via portfolio, except the capstone unless that can be done via portfolio as well (I don't think it can but let me know please). 33 credits would cost me less than $1200 via portfolio.

I have a few questions.

1. I thought I read somewhere that for a second degree, all of the gen ed would be considered as finished. Is that correct?
2. Can my speech class go into the Oral Communication slot?
3. For Information Literacy, what about the CS220 Intro Computer Basic (it was a BASIC programming class)?
4. For Civic Engagement, what about SOC-101?
5. Do I have to take the cornerstone?

I deleted my name and my grades.

Any feedback is welcome. Thank you.

BA General Education (60 SH)
Semester Hours Completed: 52.35
Complete all 5 subrequirements:
A: IntellctSkills 15 SH (In Progress)
Semester Hours Completed: 8.34
ENC-101 3 SH *must earn grade of C or better (In Progress)
> English Composition I
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
1.. ENGL2A First Yr Read & Com...... 2.67 ENC-101 *TE
__________________________________________________________________ 0.33 credits
ENC-102 3 SH *must earn grade of C or better (In Progress)
> English Composition II
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
1.. ENGL2B First Yr Read & Com...... 2.67 ENC-102 *TE
__________________________________________________________________ 0.33 credits
Oral Communication 3 SH (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
Quantitative Literacy 3 SH (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
2.. MAT-105... Applied Liberal Arts Math 3.00 B
Information Literacy 3 SH (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

B: Civic Learning 9 SH (In Progress)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Diversity 3 SH (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
3.. ANTH105 Intro to Cultural Anthrop 3.00 ANT-150 *CC *TE
Ethics 3 SH (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
4.. BUS-302... Business Ethics and Socie 3.00 BUS-302 *NE
Civic Engagement 3 SH (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

C: Human Cultures 12 SH (Completed)
> Humanities and/or Social Sciences 12 SH
Semester Hours Completed: 12.33
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
3.. SPCH100 Oral Communication....... 3.00 COM-108 *CC *TE
2.. ECO-112... Microeconomics........... 3.00
2.. SOC-101... Introduction to Sociology 3.00
5.. ECO306 MacRoeconomics........... 3.33 ECO-111 *TE

D: Natural World 4 SH (Completed)
> * Mathematics courses cannot be used to satisfy this
> requirement.
> Natural Sciences 4 SH
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
5.. CS220 Intro Computer Basic..... 3.33 COS-101 *TE
1.. PHYS10 Concepts of Physics...... 2.67 PHY-101 *TE

E: GE Electives 20 SH (In Progress)
Semester Hours Completed: 19.68
TES-100 1 SH (Not Started)
> Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies

_____________________________________________________________________ 1 credits
Additional General Education Electives 19 SH (Completed)
Semester Hours Completed: 19.68
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
6.. MAT-121... College Algebra.......... 3.00 MAT-121 *NE
1.. HIST17A Pol & Soc Hist of US..... 2.67 HIS-113 *TE
1.. FLMST46 Intro Motion Pict........ 2.67 FIL-160 *TE
1.. PHIL1 Short Intro to Phil...... 2.67 PHI-101 *TE
1.. MS9 Contemp Am Mil His....... 1.33 HIS-199 *TE
1.. ASTRO1 Basic Astronomy.......... 2.67 AST-101 *TE
1.. PSY1 General Psychology....... 2.67 - PSY-101 *TE
3.. MUS130 Fundamental Vocal Skills. 1.00 MUS-150 *CC *TE
7.. MUS141 Vocal Fundamentals....... 1.00 MUS-151 *CC *TE

Religion (30SH: 15SH must be upper level)
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
Complete all 3 subrequirements:
A: World or Comparative (Not Started)
> Complete one Introduction to World Religions course OR
> one Comparative Religion course (300/400 level), with a
> grade of C or better.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

B: Philosophy of Relig (Not Started)
> Complete one Philosophy of Religion course with a grade of
> C or better.
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

C: Religion Electives (Not Started)
> Complete 24 Semester Hours (SH) of Religion Department
> courses as electives, with a grade of C or better.
>
> **At least 15 of the 30 credits required within the entire
> Area of Study must be at the 300/400 level.**
Semester Hours Completed: 0.00
Group 1 (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
Group 2 (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits

Liberal Arts Capstone (3 SH)


> Complete course LIB-495 Liberal Arts Capstone for 3
> semester hours (SH). A grade of C or better is required in
> this course as well as within all courses that make up the
> Area of Study.
>
> This Capstone course must be taken at Thomas Edison State
> University or via an approved Thomas Edison State
> University Academic Program Review.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
___ LIB-495___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed

Electives (27SH)
> Complete 27 semester hours (SH) of college level coursework
> as Electives.
Semester Hours Completed: 27.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes

8.. ACCT201B Intermediate Accounting I 3.00 ACC-202 *CC *TE
2.. ACC-101... Prin. of Finl Acctg...... 3.00
2.. LAW-201... Business Law............. 3.00
3.. MATH120 Elementary Statistics.... 3.00 STA-201 *CC *TE
2.. MAN-301... Principles of Management. 3.00
2.. ACC-201... Intermediate Accounting I 3.00
2.. MAR-301... Introduction to Marketing 3.00
2.. FIN-301... Principles of Finance.... 3.00
2.. ACC-121... Payroll Taxes............ 3.00

OTHER COURSES:
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESU # Notes
--- ---------- ------------------------- ------- --- ---------- ---------

9 BUS-421 Business Policy 3.00 BUS-421 *NE
2 ACC-340 Accounting Systems & Conc 3.00
2 ACC-406 Forensic Accounting 3.00
2 ACC-440 Accounting Theory 3.00
2 ENG-216 Bus. Letter & Rep. Writin 3.00
4 BUS-101 Introduction to Business 3.00 BUS-101 *NE
2 PLA-200 Intro to Portfolio Develo 2.00
2 PLA-100 Intro Prior Learning Asse 1.00
2 ACC-213 Microcomputers & Accounti 3.00
2 ACC-421 Federal Income Taxation 3.00
2 ACC-102 Prin. of Mgrl Acctg 3.00
3 PE112 Yoga 1.00 PEA-199 *TE*CC
3 MUS225 Piano Skills II 1.00 MUS-161 *TE*CC
3 MUS117 Basic Keyboarding II 1.00 MUS-105 *TE*CC
5 PSY420 Intro to Personality 3.33 PSY-352 *TE
1 ZOOL25 Human Anatomy 2.00 BIO-221 *TE
1 PHIL7 Bio Med Ethics 2.67 PHI-372 *TE
5 HUM330 Visual Arts 3.33 HUM-399 *TE

[TrailRunr]

Hi all, since applying for a second degree is free for alumni, I went ahead and did it. I am toying with the idea of getting a BA in Religion, and have copied/pasted the academic eval below. I know that I could go for a Master's but I have personal reasons for wanting possibly do this, then maybe do a master's later. I have the GPA for it but not sure I want to go that route at this time.

Right now the eval is showing 40 more credits, but I was hoping to have 33 credits (or fewer, obviously) in order to complete the degree, and to do them all via portfolio, except the capstone unless that can be done via portfolio as well (I don't think it can but let me know please). 33 credits would cost me less than $1200 via portfolio.

I have a few questions.

1. I thought I read somewhere that for a second degree, all of the gen ed would be considered as finished. Is that correct?
2. Can my speech class go into the Oral Communication slot?
3. For Information Literacy, what about the CS220 Intro Computer Basic (it was a BASIC programming class)?
4. For Civic Engagement, what about SOC-101?
5. Do I have to take the cornerstone?

I'm a second bachelor's student at TESU, so I can answer your questions.

1. Yes, you need to get a GE waiver from advising for everything that is listed as incomplete in the GE section. Tell advising you're a second bachelor's and that you know that GE is supposed to be waived. This process is not automatic so you need to tell them to do it. I would do a 30 minute phone appointment to fix your GE because there is a lot to fix.
2. Doesn't matter. When you get the GE waiver, they will plug in one of your courses from the other credits pile. Make sure you don't need the course they choose. I would put in accounting courses for the unfilled GE.
3. Same as #2.
4. Same as #2
5. No, the cornerstone is a GE requirement. It's not outside the GE like the capstone is.

You are responsible getting 24 brand new credits for the capstone and the area of study. That doesn't seem to be a problem in your case.

[dfrecore]

Not sure if Accounting will be able to be moved to GE, as business courses are not considered Gen Ed. If you're not a business major, then they normally go in the Free Electives section.

But, with the changes to the majors, maybe this has changed as well, not sure (the BALS now has concentrations including General Management & HR).

[TrailRunr]

They need a placeholder in the GE slot that you don't need in your degree program. Accounting is the old major and I believe it isn't required for a religion degree. It could be physical education or cooking, or whatever.

[Leedeedee]

I have a foreign (UK) bachelor's degree, can I have my GE waived too? First I've heard of this!

[TrailRunr]

I have a foreign (UK) bachelor's degree, can I have my GE waived too? First I've heard of this!

No.

From my eval:
"Based on University policy, all general education requirements, other
than those labeled as "DEGREE REQUIREMENT" will be satisfied based on
the completion of a first bachelor's degree from a
regionally-accredited US institution."

[Leedeedee]

Thanks, it was a nice dream while it lasted!

[Notgodot]

You can have your UK courses evaluated and submitted to the university of your choice, for around $165.

http://www.degreeforum.net/excelsior-tho...epted.html