Robert Cavelier University Journey

[klone]

Just saying that University of the People is nationally accredited and a candidate for regional accreditation.

Also Hellenic is only $3k and its a B&M school with institutional accreditation just not an AACSB-Accredited MBA Program.

Plenty of cheap, accredited, MBA schools out there.

Great post. I'm not enrolled in an AACSB MBA; however, Eastern is an NCAA Division III B&M, which meets my needs. The total cost of the program is a mere $9,900. There are many programs that are accredited and affordable that OP can have their needs met at. Robert Cavelier University is worthless. Don't gamble with your future.

P.S.
Stay away from ENEB. I don't understand this forum's obsession with it. It is a joke. It is not equivalent to an accredited degree in US. No one should be proud of 'earning' an ENEB degree (if you can even call it that). Attend a REAL school.

[armstrongsubero]

@klone sounding like you're paying a lot for an MBA lol..jk.....
Outside IVY League and Georgetown etc. A financial managment course is a financial managment course whether you pay 100 or 1000 for it....but I get where you're coming from..for employment it would make a difference...for someone wanting to put MBA on my business card...mmm...not really...

@tinasam UoP is almost US 4800 dollars...lol...Hellenic is only for US Citizens...RCU is $1620 and I applied for a scholarship.....God knows I need it....its $1000 so fingers crossed...yeah there are a lot...worse case I lose a few hundred bucks studing some business courses...and can still legally put MBA after my name...


@bjcheng Yeah I checked that CARICOM adheres strictly to UK OfQual levels and we have a CARICOM to NQF as well....so ENEB and other UK Level 7 is evaluated as a 'Masters degree' in any caricom country (Jamaica, TT etc etc)...Level 8 will be evaluated as a "doctoral degree"....so Level 8 for bullet proof legal qualifications and the sub 1k US MBA to pit if after my name...legally...here UK qualifications hold more weight than US schools...lawyers typically all go to University of London or UWI....Anglia Ruslin, Greenwich and other UK schools UK ABE etc etc are accepted without question as many svhools here teach classes that get awarded by UK Unis....City and Guilds is standard for technicians and oil and gas workers erc etc

I dont need to to a PhD or DBA....maybe for teaching? Bit for all intents and purposes level 8 is a 'doctoral degree'...academically its ABD...evaluated its a 'Doctoral Degree" might do a DBA as well for businesscard namesake...

I could do ENEB but I want a little rigor as well...I like RCU...so I'll be the Guniea pig.....

As for CIE...ugghhh....I was doing the AAS Software Engineering and AAS Electronics wanted to do the BEET at World College after....sigh....so sad....remember when CIE and Grantham had low cost monthly payments? CIE grads went to grantham also to complete their bachelors..CIE had some awesum alumni too...its a shame really...there were some bookstore courses I wanted to do as well sigh...

Thanks for the advice though....

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@klone 9900 US dollars!? ???? Thats a lot...

I'll gamble a few hundred....I mean at some point someone did ENEB decided to get evaluated....

At some point someone enrolled in an unaccredited University of the People...

I'll be the guinea pig for this school...its my way of giving back to the forum...I mean we all enjoy these things...

[klone]

@klone sounding like you're paying a lot for an MBA lol..jk.....
Outside IVY League and Georgetown etc. A financial managment course is a financial managment course whether you pay 100 or 1000 for it....but I get where you're coming from..for employment it would make a difference...for someone wanting to put MBA on my business card...mmm...not really...

@tinasam UoP is almost US 4800 dollars...lol...Hellenic is only for US Citizens...RCU is $1620 and I applied for a scholarship.....God knows I need it....its $1000 so fingers crossed...yeah there are a lot...worse case I lose a few hundred bucks studing some business courses...and can still legally put MBA after my name...


@bjcheng Yeah I checked that CARICOM adheres strictly to UK OfQual levels and we have a CARICOM to NQF as well....so ENEB and other UK Level 7 is evaluated as a 'Masters degree' in any caricom country (Jamaica, TT etc etc)...Level 8 will be evaluated as a "doctoral degree"....so Level 8 for bullet proof legal qualifications and the sub 1k US MBA to pit if after my name...legally...here UK qualifications hold more weight than US schools...lawyers typically all go to University of London or UWI....Anglia Ruslin, Greenwich and other UK schools UK ABE etc etc are accepted without question as many svhools here teach classes that get awarded by UK Unis....City and Guilds is standard for technicians and oil and gas workers erc etc

I dont need to to a PhD or DBA....maybe for teaching? Bit for all intents and purposes level 8 is a 'doctoral degree'...academically its ABD...evaluated its a 'Doctoral Degree" might do a DBA as well for businesscard namesake...

I could do ENEB but I want a little rigor as well...I like RCU...so I'll be the Guniea pig.....

As for CIE...ugghhh....I was doing the AAS Software Engineering and AAS Electronics wanted to do the BEET at World College after....sigh....so sad....remember when CIE and Grantham had low cost monthly payments? CIE grads went to grantham also to complete their bachelors..CIE had some awesum alumni too...its a shame really...there were some bookstore courses I wanted to do as well sigh...

Thanks for the advice though....

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@klone 9900 US dollars!? ???? Thats a lot...

I'll gamble a few hundred....I mean at some point someone did ENEB decided to get evaluated....

At some point someone enrolled in an unaccredited University of the People...

I'll be the guinea pig for this school...its my way of giving back to the forum...I mean we all enjoy these things...

$9900 for an MBA is CHEAP. You must be unfamiliar with the cost of graduate programs in America.

[armstrongsubero]

@klone After so many years digging around the US and the US education system....lol I'm well familiar with graduate degree costs in the US and UK...at the graduate level its not uncommon to see US 1000 a credit hour programs....I mean thats part of the reason this forum exists right....

America is infamous for the cost of college and student debt lol.....I heard a Dave Ramsey call some guy had 1 million US in student loans...according to Dave some people have 50k or 100k in debt for masters degrees in Left Handed Puppetry...lol

Like I said your US 10k program meets your needs my sub US 1k program meets my needs....someone else's US 100k program will meet thier needs...and someone elses US 1 million dollar program will meet thier needs...

[bjcheung77]

At this juncture of time, since you're adamant in continuing with the program... If you have paid for it and have the scholarship to get this for a grand USD, you can always complete this as long as there is no option for refunds. Otherwise, I would just go the Level 8 UK option for the same price and call it a day, or if you want a freebie option, do the Saylor.org MBA classes for fun and/or learning...

Maybe in the future, when you have the extra cash flow, do this program and ladder that up to the Level 8 UK option as your goal, if you're planning anytime soon to reside or work in India, Malaysia, Philippines, you may want to do a DBA there instead. Right now, it may be a good option for learning/filling in the knowledge gaps. So many ways to get to an end goal of 'learning subjects'.

[freeloader]

I hadn’t heard of Robert Cavelier University before today, so had no preconceived notions about it.

In a few minutes of quick searches, it became quite clear that Robert Cavalier University is a sister institution to Brittany University, sharing ownership and administration. It is also operated out of Malaysia and administered by Malaysians. It is as much American as Brittany is Western European, which is to say not at all.

I am personally put off by the apparent desire of these institutions to obscure their true nature and to profit by that. I also doubt these instructions will ever obtain government-recognized accreditation in Europe or North America because, frankly, that doesn’t seem to be necessary to their success as for-profit businesses.  

I would have no problem pursuing a unaccredited degree; there are some in religion/theology that quite interest me and are on my list after I complete the masters’ degrees I am working on presently. But those programs make it very clear exactly what they are and their utility/lack thereof, which I appreciate.

[armstrongsubero]

@bjcheung77 Of course I am adamant, the purpose of this thread was to share my journey though the program, it will definitely get accredited and it definitely is a legitimate program. The level 8 UK stuff is something I will do, but I think I will learn more from this than the level 8. Saylor MBA isn't even operational...I have no intention of working in those countries...I wont mind cheap education from them though lol...

Maybe they really just want to compete with schools like UoP and stuff? I mean UoP is now like $4800 for a Masters degree, and they don't give scholarships for masters programs. Nextford U seems to be taking that place

@freeloader Yes it has ties to a few Universities, Brittany is one. Yes it appears to be operated from Malaysia, and some administration also have ties to the Malysian Government EPP 6 Asia eVersity program. What I see is successful administration from other programs, putting together another organization.

Those so called US "non-profit" schools have some of the most expensive programs I ever saw...I could probably invest in some real estate for the price I would pay for a "non-profit" degree lol...some are US 20 and 30k, 50k, 100k......

so far the experience reminds me more of a NationsUniversity style than a for profit "give me the money now" program. I really don't think they're out to be a cash grab as you're making them out to be. At the prices some of these "non-profits" charge there's no way you cant tell me they're not making profit...maybe after a few MBA classes I'll know for sure.

I know a few asian and middle east schools that are successful in partnerships with US universities and US and UK accreditors. One in Quatar in particular caught my eye with scholarship they have a US 12K DBA program.......

Hey worse case they don't get accredited I get a recommendation and get into a cheap Malysian program right....

I'm red pilling it...i'll see how far the rabbit hole goes and share my journey here....maybe it will help someone the way this thread has helped me over the years....

[ThatBankDude]

@bjcheung77 Of course I am adamant, the purpose of this thread was to share my journey though the program, it will definitely get accredited and it definitely is a legitimate program. The level 8 UK stuff is something I will do, but I think I will learn more from this than the level 8. Saylor MBA isn't even operational...I have no intention of working in those countries...I wont mind cheap education from them though lol...

Maybe they really just want to compete with schools like UoP and stuff? I mean UoP is now like $4800 for a Masters degree, and they don't give scholarships for masters programs. Nextford U seems to be taking that place

@freeloader Yes it has ties to a few Universities, Brittany is one. Yes it appears to be operated from Malaysia, and some administration also have ties to the Malysian Government EPP 6 Asia eVersity program. What I see is successful administration from other programs, putting together another organization.

Those so called US "non-profit" schools have some of the most expensive programs I ever saw...I could probably invest in some real estate for the price I would pay for a "non-profit" degree lol...some are US 20 and 30k, 50k, 100k......

so far the experience reminds me more of a NationsUniversity style than a for profit "give me the money now" program. I really don't think they're out to be a cash grab as you're making them out to be. At the prices some of these "non-profits" charge there's no way you cant tell me they're not making profit...maybe after a few MBA classes I'll know for sure.

I know a few asian and middle east schools that are successful in partnerships with US universities and US and UK accreditors. One in Quatar in particular caught my eye with scholarship they have a US 12K DBA program.......

Hey worse case they don't get accredited I get a recommendation and get into a cheap Malysian program right....

I'm red pilling it...i'll see how far the rabbit hole goes and share my journey here....maybe it will help someone the way this thread has helped me over the years....

Maybe after you take some business courses, you’ll know the difference between a for-profit and a non-profit college/university. In the event they do not cover it, a for-profit university distributes its profits to its owners/shareholders whereas a non-profit university reinvests its profits back into the university.

A non-profit has to be profitable to succeed and keep the doors open…they just do not have shareholders/ownership.

[armstrongsubero]

@thatbankdude I'm well aware of the difference...a bit condescending on your end...we're all college grads here.....

My point was that so called non-profits do in fact make a profit...after all staff need to be paid and the lights need to stay on and new buildings need to be built etc etc.

This is the school charging sub $1000 for 30 credits is being painted as the cash grabber when "non-profits" charge $1000 for a single credit....

The thing is I've been on this forum long enough to understand accredidation, NA, RA, for-profit, non-profit, pricing etc etc.

$1000 for 30 graduate credits will be a steal if it works put how I think it was....

RCU is not a mill, its a school working toward accredation...I've been in the US education system since 2011...started with CIE...then I went to Ashworth, then Penn Foster etc etc thats 13 years....I started not knowing anything to now knowing about institutional and programatic accredation providers, alt credit sources, evaluations etc etc and my point is I think I can discern a cash grab operation from a school trying to be legit....

Yes its unaccredited, yes its for profit, yes it has ties to non-US universities but its still a legit school....a school having a $1620 MBA giving $1000 scholaships for 12 months of tuition with a mission to 'make eudcation affordable' dosent scream cash grab for me....

[ThatBankDude]

@thatbankdude I'm well aware of the difference...a bit condescending on your end...we're all college grads here.....

My point was that so called non-profits do in fact make a profit...after all staff need to be paid and the lights need to stay on and new buildings need to be built etc etc.

This is the school charging sub $1000 for 30 credits is being painted as the cash grabber when "non-profits" charge $1000 for a single credit....

The thing is I've been on this forum long enough to understand accredidation, NA, RA, for-profit, non-profit, pricing etc etc.

$1000 for 30 graduate credits will be a steal if it works put how I think it was....

RCU is not a mill, its a school working toward accredation...I've been in the US education system since 2011...started with CIE...then I went to Ashworth, then Penn Foster etc etc thats 13 years....I started not knowing anything to now knowing about institutional and programatic accredation providers, alt credit sources, evaluations etc etc and my point is I think I can discern a cash grab operation from a school trying to be legit....

Yes its unaccredited, yes its for profit, yes it has ties to non-US universities but its still a legit school....a school having a $1620 MBA giving $1000 scholaships for 12 months of tuition with a mission to 'make eudcation affordable' dosent scream cash grab for me....

Aside from RA or NA, I generally recommend programmatic accredited programs from AACSB, ACBSP, IACBE, EQUIS, or AMBA. These programs have at least undergone some sort of process to show their quality.