Rethinking the big 3

[cali86]

I am not sure I'm going to call CTC and check right now. I have to agree on getting this business major instead it's cost effective and not much more to go.. In fact I'm on study.com and almost done with business 309 barely started it this morning.

Is it possible to teach in California with a BSBA instead of the BALS? It seems to be possible with any other degree, but they have some verbiage about "any BA other than professional education".

I would agree you don't want to get stuck with a BA in Liberal Studies if you don't end up teaching. IMHO, Cali school districts don't pay enough considering the cost-of-living.

[dfrecore]

I am not sure I'm going to call CTC and check right now. I have to agree on getting this business major instead it's cost effective and not much more to go.. In fact I'm on study.com and almost done with business 309 barely started it this morning.

I have a friend who just got her teaching credential and she had a Marketing degree. In CA, you can have any Bachelor's degree to get a credential. Now, you may be more limited on what you can teach (for example, if you're a history major but want to teach high school math, you're going to have problems unless you take additional steps). But, it depends on what you want to teach, and which credentialing program you end up in.

[cali86]

I believe I'd have to pass the CSET in the subject I want to teach or the multiple subjects in elementary for k-6.. then do the program that is appropriate for credential.. it's the same path for liberal studies degree.. it used to be that if you had a liberal studies degree you didn't need the CSET now everyone has to take it which makes me feel like that degree is pointless since I'm still stuck taking that test .. in fact sometimes if you have a. Specific degree in a subject you can bypass it which makes business even more tempting..

[cali86]

Pay is good if you have your masters I'm sure not as good as Business but tops out about 107,000 a year with full benefits and a pension.

[cali86]

Also if you teach in high school and give up your prep time they will give you another 17,000 a year. There is programs for buying houses half off out here too for teachers and loan forgiveness if you teach for so long in a low income school.

[dfrecore]

I would agree you don't want to get stuck with a BA in Liberal Studies if you don't end up teaching. IMHO, Cali school districts don't pay enough considering the cost-of-living.

It totally depends on where you live. CA is a big state, you can't say something about the entire state like that, because it just isn't true.

My teacher friends in the Sacramento area earn upwards of $70k. That is plenty to live a decent life there. I have teacher friends in North San Diego county who make more than that, they have pretty nice houses. If you live in Fresno or Redding or just about anywhere other than LA or the SF Bay area, you are fine with a teacher's salary. Even then, you only need to go out to the suburbs to be able to afford a house.

And by the way, not a single one has ever complained to me that they don't make enough money. None.

[cali86]

I'm in Modesto not far from Sacramento and I agree it's plenty to live on also not sure how many years your friend has been in but that's how the pay changes salary increases each year by steps so I'm betting she has not hit max yet what can make the difference is having a masters degree ..

It totally depends on where you live. CA is a big state, you can't say something about the entire state like that, because it just isn't true.

My teacher friends in the Sacramento area earn upwards of $70k. That is plenty to live a decent life there. I have teacher friends in North San Diego county who make more than that, they have pretty nice houses. If you live in Fresno or Redding or just about anywhere other than LA or the SF Bay area, you are fine with a teacher's salary. Even then, you only need to go out to the suburbs to be able to afford a house.

And by the way, not a single one has ever complained to me that they don't make enough money. None.

[cali86]

@defrecore here's my switch BSBA plan does this mean I only need 3 courses in AOS ? Also they would not take my intro to business

1: BSBA General Education (60 SH) (In progress)
SH Earned: 54.01 Complete all 6 subrequirements:

A: IntellecSkills 15 SH (In progress)
For TESU course options, go to Intellectual and Practical Skills Course s

SH Earned: 12.34
ENC-101 3 SH *must earn a grade of C/CR or better (Complete)
!! Exception req met
English Composition I
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 WR121 Expos Prose Writing 08/01/09 B 2.67 ENC-101
*TE
ENC-102 3 SH *must earn a grade of C/CR or better (Not started)
English Composition II
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Oral Communication 3 SH (Complete)
!! Exception req met
1 SPCH112 Public Speaking 08/01/11 A 2.00 COM-209
*TE
MAT121 or MAT-119 3 SH (Complete)
College Algebra or Quantitative Business Analysis (DEGREE REQUIREMENT)
2 MAT-121 College Algebra 10/28/16 CR 3.00 MAT-121
*NE
Information Literacy 3 SH (Complete)
SH Earned: 4.67
1 BA225 Report Writing 05/01/11 C 2.67 ENG-201
*TE
1 WR320 Prof Writing 12/01/13 B 2.00 ENG-306
*TE
B: Civic Learning 9 SH (In progress)
For TESU course options, go to Civic and Global Leadership Courses

SH Earned: 6.33
Diversity 3 SH (Complete)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 SOC204 Gen Sociology 05/01/08 A 3.33 SOC-101
*TE
Ethics 3 SH (Complete)
2 PHI-384 Ethics & Business Professional 03/21/17 CR 3.00 PHI-384
*NE
Civic Engagement 3 SH (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
C: Human Cultures 9 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to Knowledge of Human Cultures Courses
Humanities and/or Social Sciences
SH Earned: 9
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
4 CLDDV103 Child Growth & Dev 12/01/15 A 3.00 CDS-112
*CC *TE
1 ENGL104 Intro to Lit 03/01/12 C+ 2.67 LIT-101
*TE
1 MUS107 Listen to Music 03/01/12 A- 1.33 MUS-100
*TE
1 COM111 Interperson Comm 12/01/11 B 2.00 COM-130
*TE
D: Natural World 4 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to Understanding Physical and Natural World Courses
SH Earned: 4.33
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
3 ASTR01 Principles of Astron 12/01/10 C 3.00 AST-101
*CC *TE
1 GEOL122 Geol John Day Cntry 08/01/12 C 1.33 GEO-299
*TE
E: Mathematics 3 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to BUS 210 Quantit ative Methods for Decision Makers
or STA-201 Principles of Statistics
(DEGREE REQUIREMENT)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
2 STA-201 Principles of Statistics 11/05/16 CR 3.00 STA-201
*NE
F: GE Electives (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to TES-100 Corne rstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies Course
and General Education Elective Courses

SH Earned: 19.01
TES-100 1 SH (Waived)
!! Exception The TES-100 Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies course
Cornerstone: Lifelong Learning Strategies
Additional General Education Electives 19 SH (Complete)
!! Exception overages in gen ed, tes100 waived take 19 sh
SH Earned: 19.01
2 MAT-115 Intermediate Algebra 11/08/16 CR 3.00 MAT-115
*NE
1 SCI200I FM Broadcasting I 12/01/11 CR 0.67 RTV-180
*TE
1 THEA264 Stagecraft 08/01/11 B+ 2.00 THA-108
*TE
1 ART120 Design I 08/01/11 A 2.67 ART-136
*TE
1 THEA250 Acting I 05/01/11 C 2.67 THA-120
*TE
1 THEA112 Intro Thea Production 03/01/12 A 2.00 THA-290
*TE
1 GEOL123 Geol Columbia Rvr Grge 08/01/11 B 1.33 GEO-299
*TE
1 THEA267 Tech TA Makeup 12/01/08 A 2.00 THA-207
*TE
1 ART321 Digital Design 03/01/14 B+ 2.67 ART-346
*TE
2: Core (36SH) (In progress)
SH Earned: 22.68 Complete all 10 subrequirements:

A: Accounting 6 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to ACC-101 Princi ples of Financial Accounting
AND AC C-102 Principles of Managerial Accounting

SH Earned: 5.34
Group 1 (Complete)
!! Exception req met
SH Earned: 5.34
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 BA213 Managerial Account 03/01/14 B 2.67 ACC-102
*TE
1 BA211 Financial Account 12/01/11 C+ 2.67 ACC-101
*TE
B: Business Law 3 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to LAW-201 Busi ness Law
!! Exception req met
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 BA254 Business Law 12/01/12 C- 2.67 LAW-201
*TE
C: Computers 3 SH (Complete)
Choose an Introduction course in: Information Systems; Computer Literacy; Computing w/applications such as Word Processing, Spreadsh eets, Databases.
For TESU course options, please contact an Advisor
!! Exception req met
SH Earned: 2.67
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
1 BA131 Business Data Process 08/01/09 A 2.00 CIS-107
*TE
1 BA114 Micro Topic Database Mgmt 08/01/12 C+ 0.67 CAP-225
*TE
D: Finance 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to FIN-301 Prin ciples of Finance
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
E: Management 3 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to MAN-301 Prin ciples of Management
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
2 MAN-301 Principles of Management 03/20/17 CR 3.00 MAN-301
*NE
F: Marketing 3 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to MAR-301 Intr oduction to Marketing
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
2 MAR-301 Introduction to Marketing 02/09/17 CR 3.00 MAR-301
*NE
G: Business/Society 3SH (Not started)
Topics can include: International Management, Business in Society,International Marketing, and International Business.
For TESU course options, go to MAN-372 International Manage ment
OR BUS-311 Business in Society
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
H: Economics 6 SH (Complete)
For TESU course options, go to ECO-111 Macroe conomics
AND ECO-112 Microeconomics< /a>

SH Earned: 6
Group 1 (Complete)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
3 ECON01A Intro to Macroecon 05/01/11 C 3.00 ECO-111
*CC *TE
Group 2 (Complete)
3 ECON01B Intro to Microecon 05/01/11 C 3.00 ECO-112
*CC *TE
I: Communications 3 SH (Not started)
For TESU course options, go to MAN-373 Manageri al Communications
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
J: Strategic Mngt 3 SH (Not started)
*This Capstone course must be taken at Thomas Edison State University or via an approved Thomas Edison State University Academic Pro gram Review.
For TESU course options, go to BUS-421 Strategic Management
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed

[cali86]

3: General Mngt (18SH: 12SH must be upper level) (In progress)
SH Earned: 10.33 GPA Achieved/Needed: 3.136 / 2.000 Complete both subrequirements:

A: GMS Required 9 SH (In progress)
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Complete three courses (one course from three of the following four areas)
Accounting
Finance
Management
Marketing
**At least 12 semester hours within the ent ire Specialization must be at the 300/400 level.

SH Earned: 3
Group 1 (Not started)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits
Group 2 (Not started)
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits
Group 3 (Complete)
2 MAN-311 Organizational Behavior 03/20/17 CR 3.00 MAN-311
*NE
B: GMS Elective Area (In progress)
*must earn grades of C/CR or better
Complete 9 more Semester Hours (SH) from any assortment of the areas below.
Accounting
Finance
Management
Marketing
**At least 12 semester hours within the entire Sp ecialization must be at the 300/400 level.

SH Earned: 7.33
Group 1 (Not started)
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
______ _______________ _________________________ __________ _______ _______ __________
3 credits needed
Group 2 (Complete)
SH Earned: 7.33
1 BA220 Gender Work & Society 08/01/12 B+ 3.33 MAN-299
*TE
3 ACTG51 Applied Accounting 08/01/10 B 4.00 ACC-110
*CC *TE

4: Electives (6sh) (Complete)

For TESU course options, go to Elective Courses (business related courses preferred)
!! Exception overages in gen ed & aos, shortages in core take 5.98 sh
SH Earned: 6
Source Course Title Term Grade SH TESU # Notes
3 CPSC30 Computer Application 12/01/10 A 3.00 CAP-101
*CC *TE
4 CLDDV101 Princ Pract Tchng Yng Chldrn

[dfrecore]

Yes, you need 3 courses in the AOS, and all have to be UL. At least 1 has to be in either ACC or FIN.

Intro to Business has never been accepted for any degree as anything except a Free Elective.

Did you find out (via research) what degree you need for a credential program that you want? I would do that well before I would finish the BSBA, so that your option for the BALS is still open. It's easier to get the BALS and then go back for the BSBA than it is to get the BSBA, and then go back and get 24cr for the BALS (which you already have, so it would totally be a repeat).

I would do much research before finishing this program.