Purdue Global BSIT internship instead of capstone?

[dfrecore]

Hehe, just dramatization but I know how these schools love to play games.  I doubt it's going to be a straightforward process. GL

When you put it this, I agree, it's probably not worth the effort it would take to figure all of this out, and get it approved. I'll just stick to the capstone, thank you!

My daughter is at Purdue Global and is not experiencing any of this.  They haven't played any games, have been easy to work with, have given her the exact courses she's asked for, accepted more credit than we thought they would, etc.

If I'm in this program, I'm going to talk to them starting at the beginning of the process to see what the internship entails, and do it if possible.  There is NO downside to talk to them, and find out if it will work out for you.  Obviously you should get it in writing from the dean if possible.

There is a risk which is the time you spend to figure this all out considering your time is worth something.

Don't you still have to take 25% or 8 courses with Purdue?  Meaning if you transfer in Internship in place of the Capstone, this would just add 1 course you have to take with Purdue?

They are both worth the same number of credits, and you're not transferring it in - you are taking the Internship course instead of the capstone course, and it counts for residency.

Yes, your time is worth something, but asking a few questions doesn't cost you a thing.  Taking a capstone MAY be a lot more work than an Internship, in which case asking some questions will prove to be very beneficial to you.

I'm not sure why you're assuming the worst, without asking a single question?  It doesn't make any sense.  For some people, this is going to make more sense than the capstone.  It's worth asking about.

[LevelUP]

Yes, your time is worth something, but asking a few questions doesn't cost you a thing.  Taking a capstone MAY be a lot more work than an Internship, in which case asking some questions will prove to be very beneficial to you.

In a perfect world, you'll call them up, and the head of the Internship office picks up the phone and answers all your questions.

In the real world, they might tell you to wait till you're a student, then you can ask questions on how the program works.

I've seen people on here literally wait an extra year trying to argue back and forth with admissions so they can get that one last course to transfer in.  One person leads them to believe it will transfer, while another says no.

So that's why I'm a bit wary when people start adding uncertainty and extra steps to degree plans.

[dfrecore]

Yes, your time is worth something, but asking a few questions doesn't cost you a thing.  Taking a capstone MAY be a lot more work than an Internship, in which case asking some questions will prove to be very beneficial to you.

In a perfect world, you'll call them up, and the head of the Internship office picks up the phone and answers all your questions.

In the real world, they might tell you to wait till you're a student, then you can ask questions on how the program works.

I've seen people on here literally wait an extra year trying to argue back and forth with admissions so they can get that one last course to transfer in.  One person leads them to believe it will transfer, while another says no.

So that's why I'm a bit wary when people start adding uncertainty and extra steps to degree plans.

It is NOT a TRANSFER course.  They offer it as an alternative to the capstone.  All you have to do is contact them to ask what the rules are (i.e. can this be at the company you already work for?).  Here is the course description:

IT489: Bachelor's-Level Information Technology Internship
This course gives you practical job experience in the information technology field. The internship provides you with an opportunity to learn about the IT career field through practical, real-world experiences and mentoring from an IT professional. This experience will enrich your technology skills and provide a better understanding of the level of expertise needed to be successful in your career. Internships must be preapproved by the Dean prior to the start of the term.

[LevelUP]

Yes, your time is worth something, but asking a few questions doesn't cost you a thing.  Taking a capstone MAY be a lot more work than an Internship, in which case asking some questions will prove to be very beneficial to you.

In a perfect world, you'll call them up, and the head of the Internship office picks up the phone and answers all your questions.

In the real world, they might tell you to wait till you're a student, then you can ask questions on how the program works.

I've seen people on here literally wait an extra year trying to argue back and forth with admissions so they can get that one last course to transfer in.  One person leads them to believe it will transfer, while another says no.

So that's why I'm a bit wary when people start adding uncertainty and extra steps to degree plans.

It is NOT a TRANSFER course.  They offer it as an alternative to the capstone.  All you have to do is contact them to ask what the rules are (i.e. can this be at the company you already work for?).  Here is the course description:

IT489: Bachelor's-Level Information Technology Internship
This course gives you practical job experience in the information technology field. The internship provides you with an opportunity to learn about the IT career field through practical, real-world experiences and mentoring from an IT professional. This experience will enrich your technology skills and provide a better understanding of the level of expertise needed to be successful in your career. Internships must be preapproved by the Dean prior to the start of the term.

When you call Purdue, I wouldn't be surprised if all they do is point you to the Purdue website where it says that they offer an Internship for a credit program which you can find on your own. You're not a student there yet, so don't expect much in terms of answers, such as getting firm approval for your job.

OP doesn't have an Internship. This is the OP's regular job.  Will this job still qualify? Who knows, maybe.

As I said 5 times now, this will not be an easy process, such as making a few phone calls, and then you're done, and you get credit.

Is there coursework involved?

Yes, in addition to your 10 hours "on the job" each week, the following coursework is required:
Weekly Journal Entries, Linkedin Profile, Research Project, Supervisor Evaluations, Student Evaluations.

It's going to be a game of getting the information, then seeing if your job gets approved, doing extra coursework work both on your end and your boss has to do stuff as well, and then hoping you get credit before time runs out when you're done with your 7 courses.

Lots of games, lots of fun.  Like I said before, GL.

I hope it's worth it if you decide to go down the rabbit hole.

[dfrecore]

It is NOT a TRANSFER course.  They offer it as an alternative to the capstone.  All you have to do is contact them to ask what the rules are (i.e. can this be at the company you already work for?).  Here is the course description:

IT489: Bachelor's-Level Information Technology Internship
This course gives you practical job experience in the information technology field. The internship provides you with an opportunity to learn about the IT career field through practical, real-world experiences and mentoring from an IT professional. This experience will enrich your technology skills and provide a better understanding of the level of expertise needed to be successful in your career. Internships must be preapproved by the Dean prior to the start of the term.

When you call Purdue, I wouldn't be surprised if all they do is point you to the Purdue website where it says that they offer an Internship for a credit program which you can find on your own. You're not a student there yet, so don't expect much in terms of answers, such as getting firm approval for your job.

OP doesn't have an Internship. This is the OP's regular job.  Will this job still qualify? Who knows, maybe.

As I said 5 times now, this will not be an easy process, such as making a few phone calls, and then you're done, and you get credit.

Is there coursework involved?

Yes, in addition to your 10 hours "on the job" each week, the following coursework is required:
Weekly Journal Entries, Linkedin Profile, Research Project, Supervisor Evaluations, Student Evaluations.

It's going to be a game of getting the information, then seeing if your job gets approved, doing extra coursework work both on your end and your boss has to do stuff as well, and then hoping you get credit before time runs out when you're done with your 7 courses.

Lots of games, lots of fun.  Like I said before, GL.

I hope it's worth it if you decide to go down the rabbit hole.

First, nobody ever said it was going to be "easy", the OP just asked if it might be a good option for him, and it might.  It may or may not be a better/easier option than the capstone - but all I said was to ask Purdue Global what it entailed to see if he thought it might be a good fit.

If he's going to be a student anyway, it's VERY easy to just ask the question.  If he has to take the capstone or the internship anyway, it cannot hurt to ask.  Not sure why you think this is such an issue, or why you need to argue this point.  But it MAY be a good option for the OP.  Possibly.  Geez, it just can't hurt to ask about it.

[LevelUP]

Geez, it just can't hurt to ask about it.

We already know this internship requires Weekly Journal Entries, Linkedin Profile, Research Project, Supervisor Evaluations, Student Evaluations.

If that by itself doesn't sound appealing, why waste time calling?

[speedrunner]

We already know this internship requires Weekly Journal Entries, Linkedin Profile, Research Project, Supervisor Evaluations, Student Evaluations.

Once you're at a sufficiently large company, you probably have to do all those things.

Weekly Journal Entries: My daily standup threads, plus some of the JIRA ticket descriptions would be great starting points.
Linkedin Profile: I already have one.
Research project: I regularly lead the scoping and implementation of projects at my current company. I doubt any requirement would be more complex than what I already have to do.
Supervisor evaluations and Student Evaluations: most large companies do this already, we do this semi-annually as well. The docs would probably need a little tweaking, but it's not like I'd have to ask my supervisor to make stuff up. 


I understand the points you're trying to make, both of you. My experiences with universities would lead me to believe this could be a bureaucratic nightmare, and I'd rather just code than deal with advisors and the Dean's office. 

Anyway, once I get officially admitted, I'll shoot an email to my advisor, and update this thread for posterity's sake.

[LevelUP]

We already know this internship requires Weekly Journal Entries, Linkedin Profile, Research Project, Supervisor Evaluations, Student Evaluations.

Once you're at a sufficiently large company, you probably have to do all those things.

Weekly Journal Entries: My daily standup threads, plus some of the JIRA ticket descriptions would be great starting points.
Linkedin Profile: I already have one.
Research project: I regularly lead the scoping and implementation of projects at my current company. I doubt any requirement would be more complex than what I already have to do.
Supervisor evaluations and Student Evaluations: most large companies do this already, we do this semi-annually as well. The docs would probably need a little tweaking, but it's not like I'd have to ask my supervisor to make stuff up. 


I understand the points you're trying to make, both of you. My experiences with universities would lead me to believe this could be a bureaucratic nightmare, and I'd rather just code than deal with advisors and the Dean's office. 

Anyway, once I get officially admitted, I'll shoot an email to my advisor, and update this thread for posterity's sake.

That was my feeling as well that it looks like a bureaucratic nightmare.

Anyway here are the links I found about the program:
https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-prog...nship-faq/

https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-prog...uirements/

They keep repeating the word "course" over and over again.  Sounds like they are replacing one course with another one.

[dfrecore]

We already know this internship requires Weekly Journal Entries, Linkedin Profile, Research Project, Supervisor Evaluations, Student Evaluations.

Once you're at a sufficiently large company, you probably have to do all those things.

Weekly Journal Entries: My daily standup threads, plus some of the JIRA ticket descriptions would be great starting points.
Linkedin Profile: I already have one.
Research project: I regularly lead the scoping and implementation of projects at my current company. I doubt any requirement would be more complex than what I already have to do.
Supervisor evaluations and Student Evaluations: most large companies do this already, we do this semi-annually as well. The docs would probably need a little tweaking, but it's not like I'd have to ask my supervisor to make stuff up. 


I understand the points you're trying to make, both of you. My experiences with universities would lead me to believe this could be a bureaucratic nightmare, and I'd rather just code than deal with advisors and the Dean's office. 

Anyway, once I get officially admitted, I'll shoot an email to my advisor, and update this thread for posterity's sake.

That was my feeling as well that it looks like a bureaucratic nightmare.

Anyway here are the links I found about the program:
https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-prog...nship-faq/

https://www.purdueglobal.edu/degree-prog...uirements/

They keep repeating the word "course" over and over again.  Sounds like they are replacing one course with another one.

Exactly my point.  It is not some sort of transfer, it's a COURSE, replacing the Capstone COURSE.  That's what I said at the beginning.  And that it MAY be a good fit for someone who would want to go this route instead of the capstone.  

Not sure why you have to argue everything, it makes no sense to tell someone not to bother asking a question or assuming up front that you KNOW something when you may not.

We should be encouraging people to find new and different methods to get their degree, not discouraging them from even trying to find out what something is all about.

[LevelUP]

For those wanting to keep score.

Deforce said to call Purdue 5 times
LevelUp said not to call Purdue 7 times.

Plenty of time till the OP starts the term, we'll keep the lurkers updated on the score count, don't worry.