Possible Issue with UK Level 8 Diplomas

[ss20ts]

It would likely be best to stick with UK schools or schools based off of the UK model.   Those schools will likely accept the UK Level 8 diploma in leadership without question.   Baker College which is an online college in Michigan may be a good option as they are open to accepting any courses at the doctoral level for ABD status students towards a DBA.

Agree. Instead of trying to do a UK Level 8 Diplomas and then transfer it over to the US. Why don't you just get the doctorate from the UK? There are some very good schools in the UK that are far more affordable than the sub-par very expensive schools in the US. I don't understand the logic of US only.

If you're in the US then you're forever explaining your education abroad. The logistics can be a pain in the patootie. People in the US do not understand education systems outside of the US. For many people it's not worth the headache and it could cause issues in hiring because of the lack of knowledge.

[lincolnlawyer]

Just my two cents as someone currently in academia overseas with the eventual goal of moving back into academia in the US:

Even in the UK, many universities don’t openly state that they accept credits earned via OFQUAL diplomas, though it is likely that they will recognize them through Accreditation of Prior Learning. That said, whether you get a reduced tuition rate (AKA ‘top-up’) or not is still up to individual universities to decide.

Those that openly offer ‘top-up programs’ are your safest bet, but they’re not necessarily reputable enough to get you a TT position in academia.

On the other hand, it seems like the level 8 diploma isn’t getting favorable treatment by US institutions. So the next-to-ideal situation would be to consider using the level 8 diploma to enroll in a UK-based PhD program, perhaps one with decent reputation, and try using that in the US.

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If you're in the US then you're forever explaining your education abroad. The logistics can be a pain in the patootie. People in the US do not understand education systems outside of the US. For many people it's not worth the headache and it could cause issues in hiring because of the lack of knowledge.

I agree that is indeed the case in corporate/industry, but faculty members with a PhD from Europe, especially the UK, are not rare either. They might be treated less favorably, but certainly are not considered a rare species either.

[HogwartsSchool]

Just my two cents as someone currently in academia overseas with the eventual goal of moving back into academia in the US:

Even in the UK, many universities don’t openly state that they accept credits earned via OFQUAL diplomas, though it is likely that they will recognize them through Accreditation of Prior Learning. That said, whether you get a reduced tuition rate (AKA ‘top-up’) or not is still up to individual universities to decide.

Those that openly offer ‘top-up programs’ are your safest bet, but they’re not necessarily reputable enough to get you a TT position in academia.

On the other hand, it seems like the level 8 diploma isn’t getting favorable treatment by US institutions. So the next-to-ideal situation would be to consider using the level 8 diploma to enroll in a UK-based PhD program, perhaps one with decent reputation, and try using that in the US.

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If you're in the US then you're forever explaining your education abroad. The logistics can be a pain in the patootie. People in the US do not understand education systems outside of the US. For many people it's not worth the headache and it could cause issues in hiring because of the lack of knowledge.

I agree that is indeed the case in corporate/industry, but faculty members with a PhD from Europe, especially the UK, are not rare either. They might be treated less favorably, but certainly are not considered a rare species either.

That was my point for getting a PhD from Europe, if you are going to work in academia. I know very successful people that have MBA, LLB, PhD from Europe and living in the US. I do agree, corporate can be a different beast but even it can be manageable to a certain aspect.

[spohara]

Have you reached out to Morgan State University to see if their ABD programs would accept a level 8? https://www.morgan.edu/college-of-interd...s/doctoral

[FireMedic_Philosopher]

Have you reached out to Morgan State University to see if their ABD programs would accept a level 8? https://www.morgan.edu/college-of-interd...s/doctoral

Personally, no... they do not offer anything in my field.

[newdegree]

You are kind of in a catch 22 where you want to use a UK level 8 diploma but you want a particular doctoral program or major. You might have to settle for just getting a degree with a field you didn’t particularly want like for example a EdD , DBA, or leadership doctorate that will accept the UK level 8 diploma or offers ABD and accepts you into the program. The search is going to be very hard , you might have a better chance just applying for a regular program and doing the required courses if your goal is to get a specific field of study.