09-17-2024, 07:35 PM
I was surprised to see an ophthalmologist hire optometrists for surgical first assistance and pre- and post-care.
Med school - anyone interested? Well...
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09-17-2024, 07:35 PM
I was surprised to see an ophthalmologist hire optometrists for surgical first assistance and pre- and post-care.
Yesterday, 09:57 AM
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Anyways, my offer is up! No, I'm not like this guy, but he's 53 and grad Med School when he was 51, after he decided to deviate from being a Mechanic... https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical...r-AA1qBYmQ
Here's the info on how he went from mechanic to medicine, and the institutions he attended to get there... https://www.npr.org/2022/10/05/112666133...-physician
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Yesterday, 11:26 AM
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(09-17-2024, 04:32 PM)wow Wrote:(09-17-2024, 02:46 PM)ss20ts Wrote:You are welcome to think that way, but it is not an objective truth. He did not pursue a medical degree in the US, and the medical school that admitted him likely knew that he was not going to become a practicing medical doctor, but saw other advantages to admitting him. I don't think it's likely that they rejected someone who might actually become a medical doctor in order to accept him. But if they did, it might have been because they didn't I think those rejected candidates would have been good medical doctors. And they may have felt that his knowledge of chemistry and other sciences would be a boon to other students in his cohort, improving their knowledge and ability to practice medicine upon graduation.(09-17-2024, 10:04 AM)wow Wrote: Great article. Shows that there are many reasons that people seek degrees. Not everyone is looking for a specific career; often it's for the love of learning. If a person has the resources and passion to pursue an education, there's no reason they shouldn't. I've never seen anyone ask someone who golfs for a hobby what the ROI is on their equipment, classes, and club memberships, or tell them they are stupid for putting energy into something that is challenging and sometimes difficult, and also won't earn them money. This is actually not common. Plenty of MDs do research and there are quite a few MD/PhDs (it's a grant base program) but almost all do research AND practice medicine. For those who JUST want to research, a PhD suffices easily. In 15 years I have never met a MD who didn't do substantial patient care at least at some point. (09-16-2024, 08:36 PM)Duneranger Wrote:(09-16-2024, 02:38 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Yeah, I am thinking of it... for the last few years now actually... Here's an interesting read, the oldest Med School graduate (not in the US, but elsewhere). It's weird why he went to the PI to get a medical degree, I guess it's like some people going to the Caribbean for theirs...Decent chance you don't match into a US residency and then you are screwed. Foreign medical grads get the bottom of the barrel residencies if they even match at all. Why spend your remaining days being stressed 24/7 and having to deal with the risk of lawsuits and disgruntled patients all day long after burning 10+ years of your life studying. It's not weird he went to the PI, (it's cheap, with lower standards for admission) this guy would have no chance at a US med school and a Carribean school would take his cash and flunk him out after they collected his 100k a year check. They are notorious for this. Accepting tons of people then weeding them out after they take their money. Hello All, Long time lurker, but had to register to comment on this. I know several people who went to Medical School in the Caribbean and matched into competitive programs in the US. A friend of a friend didn't match into a Derm program, so she worked as an assistant physician (this is different from physician assistant) under a doctor to get experience, applied again, and got accepted. I have two associates currently enrolled in an online accredited Caribbean medical school where they will spend the first couple of years online, so they are studying from home. I think it's unfair to assume that all Caribbean medical schools are predatory. Maybe it's biased but friends who went to a Caribbean schools say that most horror students you hear about students being dismissed is because they didn't do well in the program. They go to a Caribbean school thinking it will be easy, but then they realize it isn't. All the accredited schools need to maintain a standard to stay accredited, just like US medical schools. I personally have no problem with anyone pursing a goal. If the guy in the OP doesn't end up pursing medicine, so what?
Today, 09:26 AM
(Today, 07:53 AM)Bingbong Wrote:Anecdotes anecdotes, anecdotes. Go look up attrition rates, match rates, specialty match rates and yearly costs then get back to me. Most of the schools have INSANELY large classes at first because they want to cut people after taking their money. This isn’t a novel or new thing. It’s also absolutely not some sort of conspiracy. They prey on students who couldn’t get into US MD/DO programs because no one would attend if they had a US option.(09-16-2024, 08:36 PM)Duneranger Wrote:(09-16-2024, 02:38 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Yeah, I am thinking of it... for the last few years now actually... Here's an interesting read, the oldest Med School graduate (not in the US, but elsewhere). It's weird why he went to the PI to get a medical degree, I guess it's like some people going to the Caribbean for theirs...Decent chance you don't match into a US residency and then you are screwed. Foreign medical grads get the bottom of the barrel residencies if they even match at all. Why spend your remaining days being stressed 24/7 and having to deal with the risk of lawsuits and disgruntled patients all day long after burning 10+ years of your life studying. It's not weird he went to the PI, (it's cheap, with lower standards for admission) this guy would have no chance at a US med school and a Carribean school would take his cash and flunk him out after they collected his 100k a year check. They are notorious for this. Accepting tons of people then weeding them out after they take their money. Of course med school isn’t easy but they make it a grueling slog fest in the beginning for an insidious reason. Approximately 20-% don’t match on average and those that do usually get dumped into FM. You want to role the dice with hundreds of thousands of dollars, go for it. I would never advocate for Caribbean med schools unless it’s a last resort. If someone wants to go to med school for 4 years just for “fun”, I’d question their sanity. (Today, 09:26 AM)Duneranger Wrote:(Today, 07:53 AM)Bingbong Wrote:Anecdotes anecdotes, anecdotes. Go look up attrition rates, match rates, specialty match rates and yearly costs then get back to me. Most of the schools have INSANELY large classes at first because they want to cut people after taking their money. This isn’t a novel or new thing. It’s also absolutely not some sort of conspiracy. They prey on students who couldn’t get into US MD/DO programs because no one would attend if they had a US option.(09-16-2024, 08:36 PM)Duneranger Wrote:(09-16-2024, 02:38 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Yeah, I am thinking of it... for the last few years now actually... Here's an interesting read, the oldest Med School graduate (not in the US, but elsewhere). It's weird why he went to the PI to get a medical degree, I guess it's like some people going to the Caribbean for theirs...Decent chance you don't match into a US residency and then you are screwed. Foreign medical grads get the bottom of the barrel residencies if they even match at all. Why spend your remaining days being stressed 24/7 and having to deal with the risk of lawsuits and disgruntled patients all day long after burning 10+ years of your life studying. It's not weird he went to the PI, (it's cheap, with lower standards for admission) this guy would have no chance at a US med school and a Carribean school would take his cash and flunk him out after they collected his 100k a year check. They are notorious for this. Accepting tons of people then weeding them out after they take their money. Probably earning a lot more than someone who didn't want to take the risk and pursue their dream, because they sat on the internet and believed every horror story they read about Caribbean medical schools. I appreciate your opinion, but i am just relaying what actual medical students, who went to Medical School in the Caribbean experienced. Also, I am not going to police anyone's money. If someone whats to take the risk, and can afford to do so, it's not my place to convince them to do otherwise. *Shrug* Also, let us not act like it doesn't cost a pretty penny to apply to match programs in the US. There are many competent doctors practicing in the US who attended medical school in the Caribbean, and until there are laws in place that state that no graduate outside of the US is allowed to apply to match, everyone pretty much has a chance, and every program is fair game. |
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