Only Foreign language left but college wants crazy high clep scores. Need options.

[dfrecore]

First, most colleges don't require 12cr for a foreign language - that is a LOT to require. The CSU & UC systems here in CA only 3 courses, unless you can score a 3 on an AP Language exam, and then you don't need any. The Big 3 and WGU require 0. Those are just examples, but 16cr (quarter?) is a ridiculous amount to have to do.

Second, a 68 on the CLEP is not an unusually high score. ACE requires that you score 50 to pass and get 6cr (semester) and that you get a 63 to be able to get 9cr (3 semesters), so a 68 is not way out of whack with that.

I would suggest that you either put in a lot of time and effort, using multiple sources and methods, to try to get a 68 on the CLEP, or else you're going to have to spend money and time taking 4 language courses somewhere.

BYU-IS has German for $752/course, so $3008 for all 4 courses - and you can take them as quickly as 3 weeks each I think. Unfortunately, they don't offer any other languages that have 4 semesters worth (which is weird, but whatever).

Rio Salado is $215/cr x 4cr + license = $902 x 4 = $3,608, and they give you the option of rolling start dates (every Monday), and 8-week accelerated courses. You can take Spanish, French, German, ASL, Arabic, Latin, Japanese, & Mandarin.

I'm sure there are other options out there, you're just going to have to dig deep.

Yeah I thought I misunderstood the requirements for a long time and I remember making two appointments with the advisors but I can assure you its 16cr hours. Whoever put together the course requirements really wanted people to master a language as a requirement. A bit too bias if you ask me. They require BS in Physics majors to have 16 cr hours as well and music majors!

I know for 16cr hours a 68 is right in line with what you should need but I feel every point after 60 gets very hard on the clep.

BYU-IS is not listed as an acceptable transfer college but their physical locations are so that would require manual approval. Is BYU-IS super easy or something because who can legit pass German in three weeks?

I think many people who take the CLEP language exams score 63+ on them, it's not impossible by any stretch.  For anyone I know who wants to go to school, and they are fluent in Spanish, I always tell them to take the CLEP, and so far, every one of them has scored at least a 63 (at least 5 people).

BYU-IS wouldn't necessarily be "listed" (I've never heard that you have to be on a particular list to get transferred - I can't imagine that your school has a list of 2000+ schools they will take credits from!).  But I think the courses come in on a BYU transcript, so it shouldn't be a problem.

As for ease, I'm not saying that everyone could pass in 3 weeks, I just know that there is a minimum amount of time that they require you to be in the course.  For someone who took a foreign language in HS, I can imagine that they might be able to quickly pass the first and maybe even 2nd semester of that language in college.

[videogamesrock]

BYU requires that you have Skype like conversations with your professor to show proficiency. How good is your German?

[WitsEnd]

I think many people who take the CLEP language exams score 63+ on them, it's not impossible by any stretch.  For anyone I know who wants to go to school, and they are fluent in Spanish, I always tell them to take the CLEP, and so far, every one of them has scored at least a 63 (at least 5 people).

BYU-IS wouldn't necessarily be "listed" (I've never heard that you have to be on a particular list to get transferred - I can't imagine that your school has a list of 2000+ schools they will take credits from!).  But I think the courses come in on a BYU transcript, so it shouldn't be a problem.

As for ease, I'm not saying that everyone could pass in 3 weeks, I just know that there is a minimum amount of time that they require you to be in the course.  For someone who took a foreign language in HS, I can imagine that they might be able to quickly pass the first and maybe even 2nd semester of that language in college.

What about just aiming for a 55 on the clep and doing group lesson in person for a fee? This would only be a few hundred vs 2k. I figure if I could manage a 55 on the clep in 9 weeks I could 8week at rio and be done by dec.

[allvia]

The CLEP and the courses recommended here would likely duplicate in course equivalency, due to them all being equal to ie: 101,102,103.  It would be near impossible to reach a level of proficiency in a foreign language that you're not already familiar with in the timeline your describing. You would need to almost 'live' it - so if you do attempt it choose a language that you have people around you that you can speak with if possible. Maybe a local library has the Rosetta Stone series to help you out prepare for the CLEP and then you could take upper level courses to reach the series needed to reach the 16 credits.  It seems pretty clear that the school based meeting this requirement by students taking their foreign language each semester from the start, building up over the years.   I don't think you can't do it, I just don't think your by December timeline is reasonable.  If time is more important than money as far as graduating then depending on your major you may want to look at one of the Big 3.

[videogamesrock]

You’re not going to get a high score on the CLEP through guessing. You listen to a conversation between two people and you will be asked detailed questions of the conversation. In order to score higher, you’ll have to be quite proficient.

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https://online.missouri.edu/mizzouathome...type=spall

They have several GER prefix courses that seem to be taught in English.

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https://online.missouri.edu/mizzouathome...34&type=sp

This one has a German prefix and is about cyborgs. Not sure what it has to do with German but it sounds interesting. They have a total of 12 credits in language alternatives.

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They have French lit it appears English also for 6 credits.

[videogamesrock]

They have French lit it appears English also for 6 credits.

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https://www.unr.edu/365/courses/online-courses/list

Spanish culture courses for 6 credits, SPAN prefix.

[Old Guy]

What about Eastern New Mexico University or one of many New Mexico community colleges? First take the CLEP and then whatever courses you need. 4 courses would be like $1,500 or so total but would likely have to be taken sequentially on their schedule.

[WitsEnd]

What about Eastern New Mexico University or one of many New Mexico community colleges? First take the CLEP and then whatever courses you need. 4 courses would be like $1,500 or so total but would likely have to be taken sequentially on their schedule.

Thanks, I just checked and my public university considers 201,202 at New Mexico colleges an elective that does not fulfill the requirement for the same reason they will not take credits from my local community college. They do not consider the courses equivalent. At my college its 4cr + 4cr + 4cr + 4cr 101,102,201,202. But at pretty much every flipping college in the US its 4cr + 4cr + 3cr + 3cr. That was a good suggestion and the price is crazy cheap compared to any college I have been to.

If anyone knows of a state college that follows the 4,4,4,4cr format that would do the trick. The only one I know of is Rio.

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So the University will accept the first two classes from my local community college. But what I find interesting is that my local community college only requires a 50 vs 55 to test out of two classes and under 50 to test out of the first class. Do you think its possible I can clep at the community college then just transfer the credits over to the university?

[videogamesrock]

You won't be able to launder those credits in as you CC transcript will show they are from a CLEP exam. Honestly, I think you should give up on the foreign language credits and transfer out.

[WitsEnd]

You won't be able to launder those credits in as you CC transcript will show they are from a CLEP exam. Honestly, I think you should give up on the foreign language credits and transfer out.

I don't even see how transferring out would work. I just checked and every University in my state requires you to complete 30 credit hours at their institution to receive a degree. I have 116/120 credits.