Newlane University NA CBE AAGS & BA Philosophy

[Jonathan Whatley]

Newlane University just received national accreditation from the DEAC. Newlane is not regionally accredited.

Newlane's two programs are an Associate of Arts in General Studies and a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy. They describe both as competency-based.

The cost of the associate's is $1500, and the cost of the bachelor's is $1500 if a student completed its associate's or transfers in an equivalent number of credits, else $3000.

This could potentially also be a source of NA transfer credit toward schools that take it.

[bjcheung77]

Here's the thread the OP started on the sister board, I commented on the costs and how USDOE is not placing much emphasis on distinguishing NA/RA but it still does matter for international students to make sure if their country recognizes them the same way as RA institutions: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...e-30.62280

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According to the PDF, I checked a few institutions... Hmm, I really like Calbright now... Although I can't get their CRM, IT Support, Cybersecurity training for free, for those in California, they can! I would ladder that up to the freebies from Coursera/TADA/TEEX and use that time to 'learn' those better. They can continue onwards to institutions that allow them to ladder (Excelsior, Walden, WGU, or whatever that takes, NA, ACE or NCCRS credits)

Newlane's Bachelors is only going to cost $1500+ some fees, people can ladder that to the U of Pasadena Masters in Education for $2500 flat. Total would be around $4500 for both the bachelors and masters, both being NA. With all the freebies above, they'll be well versed in Cybersecurity/IT support and also Education/Philosophy! And if they really wanted to, again, ladder up to an institution that accepts NA credits into their programs.

[allvia]

I realize it is not RA (NA only), but could someone get the Pierpont BOG AAS transfer it in and then still finish out the BA for $1500?  I would think that a NA school would accept a RA associate degree as meeting the needs (assuming the key courses were met). It seems this could be a low cost, fast track option to move into a WGU MBA (or other RA master program that accepts a NA bachelor degree). Even then, you'd have to be a big fan of philosophy to make it happen.

[dfrecore]

They do say they take ACE credit, so assuming you could bring in 90cr of ACE to meet all requirements, you could do the final 30cr in the major for $1500. I personally wouldn't do it, but form someone who REALLY wants a Philosophy degree, here you go! I think there was someone on here recently who was interested in a Math/Philosophy degree, and I would think this would be a better option than paying for the Philosophy minor at SNHU.

[bjcheung77]

PHILOSOPHY MAJOR CREDIT REQUIREMENTS BY CATEGORY

INTRODUCTION 3
LOGIC 3
PHILOSOPHICAL WRITING 3
HISTORY OF PHILOSOPHY 6
ETHICS 3
METAPHYSICS 3
EPISTEMOLOGY 3
TOTAL 24

PHIL201 History of Ancient Western Philosophy History of Philosophy 3
PHIL202 History of Modern Western Philosophy History of Philosophy 3
PHIL203 Symbolic Logic Logic 3
PHIL301 Philosophical Writing Philosophical Writing 3
PHIL304 Advanced Topics: Ethics Ethics 3
PHIL305 Advanced Topics: Metaphysics Metaphysics 3
PHIL306 Advanced Topics: Epistemology Epistemology 3
PHIL315 Philosophy of Education Advanced Studies 3
PHIL316 Philosophy of Transhumanism Advanced Studies 3
PHIL317 Philosophy of Science Advanced Studies 3
PHIL319 Feminist Philosophy Advanced Studies 3
PHIL399 Philosophy Capstone Project Capstone Project 6

[Mint Berry Crunch]

Here's the thread the OP started on the sister board, I commented on the costs and how USDOE is not placing much emphasis on distinguishing NA/RA but it still does matter for international students to make sure if their country recognizes them the same way as RA institutions: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...e-30.62280

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According to the PDF, I checked a few institutions... Hmm, I really like Calbright now... Although I can't get their CRM, IT Support, Cybersecurity training for free, for those in California, they can! I would ladder that up to the freebies from Coursera/TADA/TEEX and use that time to 'learn' those better. They can continue onwards to institutions that allow them to ladder (Excelsior, Walden, WGU, or whatever that takes, NA, ACE or NCCRS credits)

Newlane's Bachelors is only going to cost $1500+ some fees, people can ladder that to the U of Pasadena Masters in Education for $2500 flat. Total would be around $4500 for both the bachelors and masters, both being NA. With all the freebies above, they'll be well versed in Cybersecurity/IT support and also Education/Philosophy! And if they really wanted to, again, ladder up to an institution that accepts NA credits into their programs.

I did a phone interview with Newlane University a couple months ago and I wanted to spread some information that I got. I got talking to their director (Ben Blair) and their process is a bit interesting, and may or may not be worth it depending on preference.

Each degree is $1,500 in total and they are accredited through DEAC. They provide 2 degrees: An Associate of Arts in General Studies and a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy.

They do accept ACE credits. You can transfer up to 90 credits and you have to do 10 of their classes at Newlane. Most of their work is paper/project based, however, once you complete your final, you have to do an interview with your class instructor (I believe it was through teams he said) and they'll ask you questions about the course content and you have to answer their questions. If you don't answer their questions correctly, you have to study again and setup another interview with your instructor until you answer their questions right. Seems like a really subjective process in how they interpret the answer either being wrong or right. Super skeptical about it. The director is pretty firm in his stance about it. From what he informed, there are a "couple" of students their and they really like the setup.

If someone really wanted to, you could possibly do a minor in philosophy at UMPI. At least the upside is that no matter how long it takes you to do the courses at Newlane, it is JUST $1,500. Whether it takes you a month, a year, or 5 years, that is the only cost. They also have a low monthly fee until you pay it off.

With that, I think I'll pass on Newlane... Interesting guy though.

[forkintheroad]

Here's the thread the OP started on the sister board, I commented on the costs and how USDOE is not placing much emphasis on distinguishing NA/RA but it still does matter for international students to make sure if their country recognizes them the same way as RA institutions: https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...e-30.62280

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According to the PDF, I checked a few institutions... Hmm, I really like Calbright now... Although I can't get their CRM, IT Support, Cybersecurity training for free, for those in California, they can! I would ladder that up to the freebies from Coursera/TADA/TEEX and use that time to 'learn' those better. They can continue onwards to institutions that allow them to ladder (Excelsior, Walden, WGU, or whatever that takes, NA, ACE or NCCRS credits)

Newlane's Bachelors is only going to cost $1500+ some fees, people can ladder that to the U of Pasadena Masters in Education for $2500 flat. Total would be around $4500 for both the bachelors and masters, both being NA. With all the freebies above, they'll be well versed in Cybersecurity/IT support and also Education/Philosophy! And if they really wanted to, again, ladder up to an institution that accepts NA credits into their programs.

I did a phone interview with Newlane University a couple months ago and I wanted to spread some information that I got. I got talking to their director (Ben Blair) and their process is a bit interesting, and may or may not be worth it depending on preference.

Each degree is $1,500 in total and they are accredited through DEAC. They provide 2 degrees: An Associate of Arts in General Studies and a Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy.

They do accept ACE credits. You can transfer up to 90 credits and you have to do 10 of their classes at Newlane. Most of their work is paper/project based, however, once you complete your final, you have to do an interview with your class instructor (I believe it was through teams he said) and they'll ask you questions about the course content and you have to answer their questions. If you don't answer their questions correctly, you have to study again and setup another interview with your instructor until you answer their questions right. Seems like a really subjective process in how they interpret the answer either being wrong or right. Super skeptical about it. The director is pretty firm in his stance about it. From what he informed, there are a "couple" of students their and they really like the setup.

If someone really wanted to, you could possibly do a minor in philosophy at UMPI. At least the upside is that no matter how long it takes you to do the courses at Newlane, it is JUST $1,500. Whether it takes you a month, a year, or 5 years, that is the only cost. They also have a low monthly fee until you pay it off.

With that, I think I'll pass on Newlane... Interesting guy though.

I am a student at Newlane. The course hearings at the end of the class use software built into their web page, now, after verifying your id to be sure who you are the first time. The hearings themselves are thorough, but they specifically cover points you will have went over in the course of the lessons. I haven't had any obscure "Gotcha" questions thrown at me. They do have to get a sense of what you actually know. 

One interesting thing about the way the courses are laid out for the core classes (the actual philosophy classes)  is that it will show how much you've learned in pervious classes where the learning is applicable to other classes. This does not mean you don't have to take those parts, but just is an interesting way of understanding how what you are learning is growing into other aspects. 

Some courses do offer non-mandatory group meeting sessions online with the instructor and other students. Due to my schedule it has only been an option for me a few times. However, they can be very productive. The other students I have spoken with seem pretty enthused. I agree, as it is interesting being in a new program like this. 

I hope that helps.

[abart37]

Are the hearings live or how do the hearings even work ? Thinking about attending but not sure about a hearing .

[hsufeng]

Are the hearings live or how do the hearings even work ? Thinking about attending but not sure about a hearing .

usually it's live meeting with prof. like oral exam in europe. not so many hard questions, but you need to present that you know the most of the knowledge. at least give a rough answer about goals for courses.

[abart37]

Are the courses extremely difficult? I have 90 transfer credits to bring in and I’m interested doing the BA Liberal Arts : Business program. I have put it off because philosophy courses have always been difficult for me. I’m naturally geared more toward science. I spoke with admissions who said my credits will transfer. Are the courses very difficult?