[New][Help needed] Need some insight/help planning BACS/BSCS

[TalentlessOlympian]

If you are starting from scratch or with very few credits, follow the Basic Approach - Online Education Guide on the degreeforum.wikia.com wiki page. There are other exam degree plans as well, and you can see what suits you more.

Thanks. I wish I could start from scratch because I feel like that is a whole lot easier than trying to match up my 47 credits to TESU's degree requirements. But it is nice to know that some of my credits will transfer over. I want to say 6 credits are completely useless and that's ok. That means I have 41 credits to use to fill in some of the general areas in TESU's BACS.
One thing I have definitely noticed is this: The easiest degree to get online is business administration. If only I was interested in that...
Anyway, I'm redoing my lost spreadsheet with the new information I found in hopes to post something that might be very close to what I will get back from TESU after they review my transcript.


Here's what I've made... Waiting to hear back from TESU to see what they consider Gen Ed and Electives in this degree,

  Less than 1 minute ago">TESUBACSTalentless.xlsx (Size: 10.97 KB / Downloads: 0)


Also, currently checking out TEEX courses and read this:

Two credit hours through ACE are provided only if all four courses within the Online for IT Professionals (Cyber 201) track are completed.

Does that mean that after you've completed all 4 courses in a branch of cyber 101/201/301 that each branch is only worth 2 credits? Ex: 101 is worth 2 credits after completion. (Same goes for 201/301)

[ndelco]

Does that mean that after you've completed all 4 courses in a branch of cyber 101/201/301 that each branch is only worth 2 credits? Ex: 101 is worth 2 credits after completion. (Same goes for 201/301)

Yes, I completed the 101 branch and received 2 credits. There were three sections in Cyber 101. Overall, if you know anything about computers a lot of it is common info. I haven't tried the 201 or 301 because I am not yet sure if I will have room for the credits but the 101 is very doable in a short time.

[bjcheung77]

Thanks. I wish I could start from scratch because I feel like that is a whole lot easier than trying to match up my 47 credits to TESU's degree requirements. But it is nice to know that some of my credits will transfer over. I want to say 6 credits are completely useless and that's ok. That means I have 41 credits to use to fill in some of the general areas in TESU's BACS.
One thing I have definitely noticed is this: The easiest degree to get online is business administration. If only I was interested in that...
Anyway, I'm redoing my lost spreadsheet with the new information I found in hopes to post something that might be very close to what I will get back from TESU after they review my transcript.


Here's what I've made... Waiting to hear back from TESU to see what they consider Gen Ed and Electives in this degree,
TESUBACSTalentless.xlsx


Also, currently checking out TEEX courses and read this:

Does that mean that after you've completed all 4 courses in a branch of cyber 101/201/301 that each branch is only worth 2 credits? Ex: 101 is worth 2 credits after completion. (Same goes for 201/301)

Yup, I finished all 3. Took a weekend to get them done... You do the free courses and ALEKS math courses yet? If you need an ethics course, or the NFA courses in addition to TEEX, they provide credit and are free. I recommend ALEKS for math/stats if you're missing credits in those categories... For a BA, I think there are 47 credits of general education electives in total (20 Gen Ed, 27 free electives). The free courses and the ones that "didn't" transfer can go into either.

[davewill]

... For a BA, I think there are 47 credits of general education electives in total (20 Gen Ed, 27 free electives). The free courses and the ones that "didn't" transfer can go into either.

Yup! Those were a big help to me. Didn't have to leave any of my transfer credits off the table, except for one lonely half credit that had no matching half to round it out.

[TalentlessOlympian]

Yup, I finished all 3. Took a weekend to get them done... You do the free courses and ALEKS math courses yet? If you need an ethics course, or the NFA courses in addition to TEEX, they provide credit and are free. I recommend ALEKS for math/stats if you're missing credits in those categories... For a BA, I think there are 47 credits of general education electives in total (20 Gen Ed, 27 free electives). The free courses and the ones that "didn't" transfer can go into either.

Yeah, I am working on cyber 101 atm and it's pretty straight forward. I haven't done any of the free courses (the up to 12 free credits) because I already took, or think I have, the equivalency of those courses. I have taken up to Calc I (which I dropped due to life events). So, on paper I've only taken up to trig/precalc. I am considering taking intro to statistics from aleks if necessary, but I know will definitely need up to Calc II for my BACS.

I'm hoping most of my credits that I have already will take care of the basic requirements. I have no issues with taking some relevant maths/sciences/electives for my degree.
I just don't want to have a list of credits that are completely useless for my degree track. (If that makes sense?)

At any rate, it has been really enlightening to hear from this community here about the best ways to get my desired degree and all the information and feedback is definitely helping me out!

I'm not sure if anyone took a look at my goofy spreadsheet, but that's what I am working with.

[dfrecore]

I looked at your spreadsheet. I am only going to comment on the Gen Eds & Free Electives since I don't know a ton about the Area of Study well. I also am guessing that all of your math credits will work, but I'm not sure that TESU will not consider some duplicates (Trig & Precalc Algebra). If they do, then you would need an additional course.

Here's what you still need:

1) Cornerstone - must take at TESU, $300 - this will get your enrollment going for a year

2) Public Speaking/Speech - DSST or SL's Intro to Comm

3) Info Lit - A&I Lit CLEP*, Intro to Religions SL or DSST, Technical Writing DSST or TECEP*
* the TECEP is good because it's easy and will get your enrollment going for a year, the CLEP is good because it's 6cr

4) Diversity Requirement - Sociology (CLEP, TECEP*, SL), Anthropology (SL)
* TECEP will get your enrollment going for a year, and is all multiple choice

5) Civic Engagement Requirement - American Government CLEP or SL

6) And additional Gen Ed of any kind, whatever is easiest for you (Saylor has a couple of POLS courses that might be easy to study for if you already have to study for Am Govt, or the CLEP from above will put extra credits here instead)

7) In the Free Electives section, the Student Success course you already took will be here - you can add the free Ethics course (2cr), free TEEX courses (6cr), free NFA courses (3cr), ALEKS Statistics (3cr), most of the Saylor courses will work here

Also, you have some notes to the side of some, I'm not quite understanding them, and most will not work. Here's the problems with those:
1) Quant Lit Req: any of the other math courses you have taken will work here, so you don't need ALEKS Stats if you don't want it
2) Info Lit Req: English won't count here, and it's already in the Written Comm Req anyway
3) Diversity Req: American History won't count here, but it will go in Knowledge of Human Cultures area
4) French 1 & 2 in HS - if these were HS courses, they don't count as college courses so you won't get credit for them
5) Understanding the Physical & Natural World - Intermediate Algebra won't fit here, it will go into Quant Lit area or Gen Ed Electives, you have other science courses that will fit

[TalentlessOlympian]

I looked at your spreadsheet. I am only going to comment on the Gen Eds & Free Electives since I don't know a ton about the Area of Study well. I also am guessing that all of your math credits will work, but I'm not sure that TESU will not consider some duplicates (Trig & Precalc Algebra). If they do, then you would need an additional course.

Here's what you still need:

1) Cornerstone - must take at TESU, $300 - this will get your enrollment going for a year

2) Public Speaking/Speech - DSST or SL's Intro to Comm

3) Info Lit - A&I Lit CLEP*, Intro to Religions SL or DSST, Technical Writing DSST or TECEP*
* the TECEP is good because it's easy and will get your enrollment going for a year, the CLEP is good because it's 6cr

4) Diversity Requirement - Sociology (CLEP, TECEP*, SL), Anthropology (SL)
* TECEP will get your enrollment going for a year, and is all multiple choice

5) Civic Engagement Requirement - American Government CLEP or SL

6) And additional Gen Ed of any kind, whatever is easiest for you (Saylor has a couple of POLS courses that might be easy to study for if you already have to study for Am Govt, or the CLEP from above will put extra credits here instead)

7) In the Free Electives section, the Student Success course you already took will be here - you can add the free Ethics course (2cr), free TEEX courses (6cr), free NFA courses (3cr), ALEKS Statistics (3cr), most of the Saylor courses will work here

Also, you have some notes to the side of some, I'm not quite understanding them, and most will not work. Here's the problems with those:
1) Quant Lit Req: any of the other math courses you have taken will work here, so you don't need ALEKS Stats if you don't want it
2) Info Lit Req: English won't count here, and it's already in the Written Comm Req anyway
3) Diversity Req: American History won't count here, but it will go in Knowledge of Human Cultures area
4) French 1 & 2 in HS - if these were HS courses, they don't count as college courses so you won't get credit for them
5) Understanding the Physical & Natural World - Intermediate Algebra won't fit here, it will go into Quant Lit area or Gen Ed Electives, you have other science that will fit

I have a couple problems with the notes you left at the end. Nothing personal...
Quant Lit Req: That should be covered by a math. (Precalc for ex)
Info Lit Req: That should be covered by a general literature course. (American lit. for ex)
Diversity Req: I feel like that should be covered by Human Development.
Language: French 1 n 2 were supposed to transfer from HS to College as an equivalency for their language credits. So, I would assume that I would be given credit for it even now.
Understanding the Physical & Natural World: High maths/sciences should fit in here. Just as you stated.


I'm a bit annoyed with the process. I don't want to sell myself short of credits due to being arrogant but I don't want to waste time in subjects that won't help me.

I am quite excited to start and cash in on these free credits. Currently I enrolled into Cyber 101, but I was hoping these courses could be cut shorter. They want 10 hours of my time. How do people get these credits so quickly?

[bjcheung77]

I have a couple problems with the notes you left at the end. Nothing personal...
Quant Lit Req: That should be covered by a math. (Precalc for ex)
Info Lit Req: That should be covered by a general literature course. (American lit. for ex)
Diversity Req: I feel like that should be covered by Human Development.
Language: French 1 n 2 were supposed to transfer from HS to College as an equivalency for their language credits. So, I would assume that I would be given credit for it even now.
Understanding the Physical & Natural World: High maths/sciences should fit in here. Just as you stated.


I'm a bit annoyed with the process. I don't want to sell myself short of credits due to being arrogant but I don't want to waste time in subjects that won't help me.

I am quite excited to start and cash in on these free credits. Currently I enrolled into Cyber 101, but I was hoping these courses could be cut shorter. They want 10 hours of my time. How do people get these credits so quickly?

The answers you're looking for are in my guide. TEEX are not proctored, have the materials open in a window, have the test open in another. Go through them until you reach 70% on each one. It took me a LONG weekend to do all 3.
For ALEKS, again, I have mentioned it in the guide, you use calculators and spend time working on the pie until your last assessment is 70% or higher. It took me a month to get 5 courses done for ALEKS, it's time consuming for all the free courses, but it actually saves you time and money... No college course will be faster or cheaper.

[TalentlessOlympian]

The answers you're looking for are in my guide. TEEX are not proctored, have the materials open in a window, have the test open in another. Go through them until you reach 70% on each one. It took me a LONG weekend to do all 3.
For ALEKS, again, I have mentioned it in the guide, you use calculators and spend time working on the pie until your last assessment is 70% or higher. It took me a month to get 5 courses done for ALEKS, it's time consuming for all the free courses, but it actually saves you time and money... No college course will be faster or cheaper.

I read your guide and am following up with it.
I have just been wondering how someone manages 80credits in 1 month. That just seems insane to me. But maybe those credits were mostly DSST/CLEPs or another form of exam. And they had the general knowledge to get those credits fast.

Trust me, I understand that 10hrs of my time is NOTHING compared to 4 months in a classroom setting chipping away 1.10hrs 3x a week.
I truly do prefer what I have started over the traditional schooling. I just wasn't expecting the time to be given. (self pace was to me something more like: Jump to the end and test out asap).

[KayV]

You can jump to the end and test out of the Saylor courses. Try the practice exam first to make sure you are ready.