Need help for BSBA degree plan

[IrishJohn]

Hello everyone. I just received my evaluation for my second bachelor's, BSBA, at TESC. I could really use some input. Below is what I received, with my comments in red. Looks like all the CLEP/DSST exams as well as the Straighterline & ALEKS courses I did while laid-off have really helped! Glad something good came out of that dismal period.

Thanks for the help!

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General Education (60sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 60.00
Complete all 9 subrequirements:

A: English Comp (Completed)
> Complete one full year of English Composition with a grade
> of C or better.
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
GPA Achieved/Needed: 4.000 / 2.000
Group 1 (Completed)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. ENG111 College Compositn I...... 3.00 A ENC-101 *CC *TE
1.. ENC-102... English Composition II... 3.00 CR ENC-102 *NE

B: Mgrl/Bus Communs (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours in managerial communications or
> business communications.
> MAN-373
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. COM-300... Intro. to Business Commun 3.00 CR COM-300 *NEW *NE

C: Humanities Electives (Completed)
> Complete 9 semester hours from humanities; minimum 2 de-
> partments required.
Semester Hours Completed: 9.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. ENG251 Surv of World Lit I...... 3.00 A LIT-217 *CC *TE
2.. SPA201 Inter Spanish I.......... 3.00 A SPA-201 *CC *TE
2.. SPD110 Intro to Speech Comm..... 3.00 A COM-108 *CC *TE

D: Macro/Microeconomics (Completed)
> Complete one full year of economics (micro/macroeconomics)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Group 1 (Completed)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ECO-111... Macroeconomics........... 3.00 CR ECO-111 *NEW *NE
1.. ECO-112... Microeconomics........... 3.00 CR ECO-112 *NEW *NE

E: Social Sciences (Completed)
> Complete 6 semester hours from the social sciences with
> the exception of economics.
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. HIS-310... The Middle East.......... 3.00 A
2.. HIS269 Civ War & Reconsruct..... 3.00 A HIS-235 *CC *TE

F: Precalculus (Completed)
> Take 3 semester hours of Quantitative Business Analysis or
> Precalculus. Students who have completed College Algebra
> should take MAT-129 to avoid duplication of credit.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. MAT-129... Precalculus for Technolog 3.00 CR MAT-129 *NEW *NE For anyone who is interested, I actually took Trig and NOT Precalc through ALEKS and as you can see they gave me credit for it!

G: Statistics (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours in Principles of Statistics.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. STA-201... Principles of Statistics. 3.00 CR STA-201 *NEW *NE

H: Natural Sci/Math (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours from Natural Sciences Department;
> except the mathematics department.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. CHE-111... General Chemistry I...... 3.00 CR CHE-111 *NEW *NE

I: General Educ Elects (Completed)
> Complete 21 semester hours in humanities, social sciences
> and natural sciences/mathematics (any combination).
Semester Hours Completed: 21.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. SPA202 Inter Spanish II......... 3.00 C SPA-202 *CC *TE
1.. MAT-121... College Algebra.......... 3.00 CR MAT-121 *NEW *NE
1.. HIS-252... Civil War and Reconstruct 3.00 CR HIS-252 *NE This is the DSST exam I took in 2010. Not sure why TESC is telling some folks they no longer accept this when they clearly give me credit for it here.
1.. HIS-309... Intro. to Modern Middle E 3.00 CR HIS-309 *NE
1.. HIS-386... Rise and Fall of Soviet U 3.00 CR HIS-386 *NE
1.. MAT-115... Intermediate Algebra..... 3.00 CR MAT-115 *NE
1.. MAT-102... General Math I........... 3.00 CR MAT-102 *NE
Core (27sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 15.00

Complete all 8 subrequirements:

A: Intr Finl/Mgrl Acctg (Completed)
> Complete one full year of Introductory/Principles of
> Accounting (Introduction to Financial Accounting and Intro-
> duction to Managerial Accounting)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00

Group 1 (Completed)
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ACC-101... Prin. of Finl Acctg...... 3.00 CR ACC-101 *NEW *NE
1.. ACC-102... Prin. of Mgrl Acctg...... 3.00 CR ACC-102 *NEW *NE

B: Business Law (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Business Law.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ LAW-201___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed I plan on taking CLEP Introductory Business Law soon to fill this spot.

C: Compu Lit/Intr CIS (Completed)
> Complete 3 hours in an introduction to information systems,
> introduction to computers, computer literacy, or an intro-
> ductory computing course with applications such as word pro-
> cessing, spreadsheets, and databases.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
2.. ITE100 Intro to Info System..... 3.00 C CIS-102 *CC *TE

D: Princ of Finance (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Finance.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ FIN-301___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed I plan on taking DSST Principles of Finance soon to fill this spot.

E: Prins of Management (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Principles of Management.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. MAN-301... Principles of Management. 3.00 CR MAN-301 *NEW *NE

F: Intro to Marketing (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours of Introduction to Marketing.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
___ MAR-301___ _________________________ ______________________ 1 course needed I've already taken CLEP Marketing so apparently just need to send in the transcript.

G: Bus in Soc/Int'l Mgt (Completed)
> Complete 3 semester hours of business in society, introduc-
> tion to international business, international management or
> international marketing.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. BUS-302... Business Ethics and Socie 3.00 CR BUS-302 *NEW *NE

H: Strategic Management (Not Started)
> Complete 3 semester hours in Strategic Management or
> Business Policy.
_______________________________________________________________ 1 course needed Will Penn Foster's course in Strategic Business Management fulfill this? Any suggestions for other options?
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[IrishJohn]

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General Management Specialization (18sh)
Semester Hours Completed: 9.00
GPA Achieved/Needed: none / 2.000
Complete both subrequirements:

A: GMS Required Areas (In Progress)
> Complete one three semester hour course in three of the
> following four areas: Accounting, Finance, Management,
> Marketing. These courses must be above the introductory
> level.
Semester Hours Completed: 6.00
Group 1 (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. ACC-303... Cost Accounting.......... 3.00 CR ACC-303 *NEW *NE
Group 2 (Not Started)
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits I was planning on taking DSST Money & Banking soon. Will that work here?

Group 3 (Completed)
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. MAN-331... Human Resources Managemen 3.00 CR MAN-331 *NEW *NE
B: GMS Elective Area (In Progress)
> Complete three more 3 semester hour courses from any
> assortment of the four areas above, using courses above the
> introductory level.
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. PSY-361... Organizational Behavior.. 3.00 CR PSY-361 *NE
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits I'm planning on taking DSST Business Law II. Will that work here?
_____________________________________________________________________ 3 credits I'm scheduled to take DSST Management Information Systems next week. Will that work here?

Business Electives (9sh)
> Complete 9 sh from accounting, banking, business, computer
> applications, computer information systems, finance,
> management, hotel/motel/restaurant management, insurance,
> operations management, public administration, real
> estate, law, marketing, and retailing management,
> fundraising.
Semester Hours Completed: 10.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. MAN-201... Principles of Supervision 3.00 CR MAN-201 *NEW *NE
1.. BUS-101... Introduction to Business. 3.00 CR BUS-101 *NEW *NE
1.. COS-332... Computer Organization.... 4.00 CR COS-332 *NE

Free Electives (6sh)
> Complete 6 semester hours.
!! Exception
Credit overage in Business Electives. 5sh required.
Semester Hours Completed: 5.00
Src Course # Title S.H. Grd TESC # Notes
1.. HEA-195... First Aid................ 2.00 CR HEA-195 *NE
1.. HIS-222... Contemp. W. Eurp.: 1946-1 3.00 CR HIS-222 *NE

[emichele20]

Hello,

I will try to answer your questions to the best of my ability

Will Penn Foster's course in Strategic Business Management fulfill this? Any suggestions for other options?- Yes it will : TESC Business Policy= Penn Foster's Strategic Business Management- ICS-0218. I know this from taking the course myself.

I was planning on taking DSST Money & Banking soon. Will that work here? Yes it will: It is a 300/400 Level course and is in the area of Finance. The TESC equv is FIN-332.

I'm planning on taking DSST Business Law II. Will that work here?- This course equates to LAW 202 which is a 200 level course. This course will not work because you have to have courses that are above the introductory level (100/200 level courses). I see that you are into testing so there is another option if you have not taken this course already. Human Resource Management is equal to MAN 331 at tesc and would meet the requirement and is a dantes exam. If you have already taken this or it is no longer available you can also look at TESC leadership courses as many of them are upper level and do not require tests which is a plus. They are mainly writing.

I'm scheduled to take DSST Management Information Systems next week. Will that work here?- Yes Management Information Systems is equal to CIS 301 at TESC and is considered to be a business course and would meet the requirement.

[sanantone]

Money and Banking is listed as ECO-332, but it still fits in the finance area.

[IrishJohn]

I'm planning on taking DSST Business Law II. Will that work here?- This course equates to LAW 202 which is a 200 level course. This course will not work because you have to have courses that are above the introductory level (100/200 level courses). I see that you are into testing so there is another option if you have not taken this course already. Human Resource Management is equal to MAN 331 at tesc and would meet the requirement and is a dantes exam. If you have already taken this or it is no longer available you can also look at TESC leadership courses as many of them are upper level and do not require tests which is a plus. They are mainly writing.

Thank you for the advice! I've already taken Human Resource Management so I guess that's not option for this spot. Unfortunately I'm on the road a lot for work so writing papers is extremely difficult at the moment. Are there any other options from Penn Foster, KCTCS or TECEP that you can think of? Thanks again.

[sanantone]

I can't recall if all of these are 300/400 level. Excuse any redundancy. I just copy and pasted the whole list I have.

DSST Management Information Systems
DSST Money and Banking
DSST or ECE Organizational Behavior
DSST or ECE Human Resource Management
ECE Labor Relations
Straighterline Managerial Accounting (transcribed as Cost Accounting)
TECEP Federal Income Taxation
TECEP Security Analysis and Portfolio Management
TECEP Financial Institutions and Markets
TECEP Marketing Communications
TECEP Sales Management
TECEP Advertising
TECEP Operations Management

I made this list of ACE-approved Penn Foster courses (as of May 2012 or so), but I don't have the patience to sort them by subject. Someone else could probably help you pick out the right courses from the list.

Administration of an Early Childhood Education Center
Administration of Justice
Advanced Composition
Advertising Principles
Applied Research Skills
Art Appreciation
Art, Music and Movement
Business and Technical Writing
Business Ethics
Business Law I
Business Law II
Business Research Methods
Business Statistics
Child, Family, and Community
Community Corrections
Compensation Management
Computer Applications
Computer Applications in Accounting
Computer-Based Crime
Consumer Behavior
Corporate Finance
Correctional Institutions
Cost Accounting
Courts
Crime Scene Investigation Basics
Criminal Evidence
Criminal Law
Criminal Procedures
Criminalistics
Criminology
Crisis Intervention
Cultural Diversity in the Early Childhood Program
Curriculum for Early Childhood Education
Customer Service
Developing Math and Science Skills in Young Children
Earth Science
Economics I
Economics II
Electronic Circuits
Employee Benefits
Engineering Mechanics
English Composition
Essentials of Psychology
Ethics in Criminal Justice
Financial Accounting
Financial Management
Foundations of Political Science
Fundamentals of Early Childhood Education
Fundamentals of Electricity
Fundamentals of Electronics
Guidance in Early Childhood Education
Health, Safety, and Nutrition for the Young Child
Human Resources Management
Infant and Toddler Care
Information Literacy
Intermediate Accounting I
Intermediate Accounting II
International Business
International Relations
Interpersonal Communication
Introduction to Biology
Introduction to Business
Introduction to Computer Programming
Introduction to Criminal Justice
Introduction to Literature
Introduction to Private Security
Introduction to Programming
Introduction to Sociology
Juveniles and the Legal Process
Labor Relations
Language and Literacy Development in Young Children
Legal Environment of Business
Managerial Accounting
Marketing Research
Math for Business and Finance
Merchandise Planning and Buying
Multicultural Law Enforcement
Music Appreciation
Nutrition
Organizational Behavior
Organized Crime
Personal Financial Management
Physical Science
Play in the Lives of Young Children
Police Management
Police Studies
Principles of Management
Retail Management
Securities and Investments
Security and Loss Prevention
Security Management
Speech
Strategic Business Management
Substance Abuse and Treatment in Criminal Justice
Supervision and Leadership
Supply Chain Management
Terrorism
Tool Design I
Tool Design II
Training Concepts
Victimology
White Collar Crime
Women and Criminal Justice
Working with Preschoolers

[IrishJohn]

Doe anyone know which ones would transfer a upper level to TESC? Thanks.

[Muricles]

I've been told in writing by a TESC advisor that Penn Foster Supply Chain Management is considered an upper level course (OPM-420).

Based on the TESC credit distribution site for BSBA in General Management, I'm fairly certain the following would transfer as upper level business electives:
Intermediate Accounting I
Intermediate Accounting II
Cost Accounting (which you have already)

Be careful with the rest of the Penn Foster business courses as some could be considered duplicates of other core business requirements (e.g. Corporate Finance and Principles of Finance DSST). As Penn Foster course equivalencies are not detailed in the course catalog, everything seems to depend on the advisor, phase of the moon, or where the dart lands on the "course evaluation" dartboard.

IrishJohn, I'm in the same boat. I'm attempting a second degree in Operations Management at TESC after completing a BA in History (thanks for your plan!). It is extremely difficult to get straight answers regarding upper level electives. Maybe someone else would be willing to post their equivalencies from Penn Foster to TESC.

[IrishJohn]

Thakns, Muricles. I think what I'll do is go ahead and finish everything I know I have to take and save the extra class, TECEP or ECE for last. Since I'm not officially enrolling (i.e., forking over a lot of money) until January, that gives me some time. I probably won't even be ready to finish that last requirement until February anyways. Once I'm enrolled I guess I can run some ideas by TESC and have them tell me in writing which is acceptable. Wish it could have been DSST Business Law II, but alas...

[emichele20]

I would be interested in the penn foster to tesc list too. Now I am thinking that I should probably get a second degree in another area. It would not hurt me any and it would be easier for me to get licensed to teach at grade schools in my area. I would love to go for the BA in Math/Natural Sciences.