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Need AA quick, stuck on Cornerstone
#1
Hello,

My brother turned me on to this forum—it's amazing!  I believe I have all the credits needed for my AA.  I mapped the courses I've already taken to several colleges and COSC seems to be the best fit so far but I'm tripping over the 1 credit Cornerstone Course.  I plan to go on an get my BA or BS but need the AA asap for work purposes.  Thought maybe I could switch to TESU and do the cornerstone waiver but even after reading many of the posts about it I'm still not clear how that works.  I'm looking for a path that doesn't involve taking more classes and if I absolutely have to take a class, something quick and easy and doesn't involve writing papers.  Any help would be MOST appreciated!


AP Macroeconomics

Northern AZ Univ (NAU)
ANT 209 - Anthropology, Folklore
COM 150 - Environmental Communication
GLG 107 - Oceanography
GSP 240 - World Geography
MAT 114 - Quantitative Reasoning
BIO 181 - Unity of Life: Cell life
Bio 181L - Unity of Life Lab
ENG 105 - Critical Reading/Writing

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ENG 288 - Beginning Workshop Fiction
SPA 111 - Spanish (4 crs)

Maricopa Community College
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ENG 101 - English Comp
ENG 102 - English Comp
COM 100 - Intro to Human Comm (speech)
THE 210 - Contemporary Cinema
HIS 108 - US History
PSY 101 - Intro to Psychology
SOC 212 - Gender & Society
BIO 105 - Environmental Bio
COM 230 - Small Group Communication

The Institute
Ethics and the CPCU Code of Professional Conduct

Also, if I move over to TESU not sure if I have a class that fulfills the Civic Engagement requirement.

Thanks!
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#2
Look at Pierpont's Board of Governors AAS program. No cornerstone, but it looks like you need a computer course.

https://pierpont.edu/ac/programs/board-governors

EDIT: There's free ones that might satisfy that requirement like the TEEX courses.
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#3
2 of the TEEX courses (Infosec for Everyone and Infosec for IT Profs) will count as the credits needed, but you'll need to finish them by the end of the month.
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#4
The problem, when transferring units, isn't necessarily that you don't have enough, but that you don't have the right ones.

There's also the matter of graduation.  Timing may be an issue.

Your best option is a school you've already gone to.  Can you get an AA at MCC?

Your next best option is the Pierpont BOG AAS.  You need a single computer lit course, and I would suggest signing up for Study.com and doing a course immediately (BUS 104: Information Systems and Computer Applications, BUS 109: Intro to Computing, COMPSCI 102: Fundamentals of IT, COMPSCI 103: Computer Concepts & Applications or BUS 303: Management Info Systems, whichever looks easier).  You could probably finish in a few days.  While you're doing that, open an ACE account if you haven't already, so you can transfer that course in.  And, go ahead and apply to Pierpont - and send in all of your transcripts except ACE (which you'll send the moment your computer course is on there).  Then, apply for graduation.  No fee for that, and I think graduation is in August.  Total cost would be $200 (although I'd advise you to take an additional course since you're paying for 2 exams in a month at Study.com).

If an AAS won't do for some reason, then you have the options of TESU or COSC.

For TESU, you need American Government, and an Info Lit course (World Religions or A&I Lit are your best bet).  Again, you could do all of them through Study.com fairly quickly.  You'd want to apply to TESU as a Study.com affiliate member, and send in all of your transcripts including ACE.  As you finished the Study.com courses, you would send those transcripts in as well (directly from Study.com to TESU, no charge).  The waiver for the Cornerstone should come in immediately, but if not, you'd just ask for it.  Then, you could apply for graduation by July 1, for September graduation.  Total cost should be ~ $2400 including courses, and all fees.

Last, COSC is going to be a bit cheaper than TESU, but you'll have to take the Cornerstone there (no waiver).  You could apply, register for the cornerstone, send in your transcripts, and see if your Anthropology course will come in as meeting the Global Understanding requirement (not sure on that one).  While you're waiting, sign up for ALEKS and work your way through College Algebra, because it's a requirement at COSC that you at least take that level of math.  I also don't know what they'll do about only taking a 2cr Ethics course.  If all that works, then you're good.  If you need to take a 3cr ethics course, and/or you need a Global Understanding course, then your best and fastest option is probably Study.com.  So, your costs should be something between $1750 (if you take ALEKS and don't need anything else) to $$1950 (if you need to take an ethics course and a Global Understanding course in addition to math).  No idea on when you'd graduate.

Here are spreadsheets for each.


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.xlsx   SumCes TESU AA.xlsx (Size: 26.15 KB / Downloads: 4)
.xlsx   SumCes COSC AA.xlsx (Size: 53.52 KB / Downloads: 9)
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#5
I'm seriously blown away by your replies. THANK YOU MrBossmanJr,[b] quigongene, [b]dfrecore!! [/b][/b]   Seriously, getting your replies really choked me up.  I'm not sure how to thank you for taking the time to reply and go above and beyond to help me—thank you!!! it means so much!!

I'll spend some time reviewing your suggestions to see what the best course of action might be.

You = awesome. Me = grateful.

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(05-06-2018, 06:27 PM)quigongene Wrote: 2 of the TEEX courses (Infosec for Everyone and Infosec for IT Profs) will count as the credits needed, but you'll need to finish them by the end of the month.

I decided to go with the Pierpont's Board of Governors AAS program.  As you suggested I took one of the TEEX courses and starting the second one now but can't figure out how these credits get transferred to Pierpont.  I could not locate either course on ACE credit.  Please share how to do this. 

Many thanks!
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#7
It's tricky because on the ACE website the classes are:
Cyber 101 cyber security for everyone
cyber 201 cyber security for it professionals
cyber 301 cyber security for business professionals

On the TEEX website its:
AWR168 Cyber Law and White Collar Crime
AWR174 Cyber Ethics
AWR175 Information Security for Everyone
ALL 3 of those need to be taken to complete just cyber 101

AWR138 Network Assurance
AWR139 Digital Forensics Basics
AWR173 Information Security Basics
AWR178 Secure Software
ALL 4 of those for cyber 201

AWR169 Cyber Incident Analysis and Response
AWR176 Disaster Recovery for Information Systems
AWR177 Information Risk Management
and ALL 3 of those for cyber 301

I hope that helps clear things up a bit.
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#8
You only need to do:

Cyber 101 cyber security for everyone

which is these three courses:

AWR168 Cyber Law and White Collar Crime
AWR174 Cyber Ethics
AWR175 Information Security for Everyone

then create and account on ACE and request transfer for Cyber 101 cyber security for everyone.
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Ah okay, thanks for the clarification.  I see it now in ACE, didn't realized that they group the exams together...

MrBossmanJr - As mentioned I decided to go with Pierpont's.  I completed the Cyber 201 cyber security for it professionals.  Can you please confirm that I don't need a second course.  Will the 2 credits be enough?  Thanks!
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#10
It seems like all you needed was the computer course. It doesn't matter how much credits that course counts for as long as you have 60 credits total and meet all the requirements in the above link. I recommend you contact Nancy Parks, start filling out the graduation form, and start sending your transcripts to Pierpont.

EDIT: and congrats and good luck.

EDIT: Sorry my mistake. Seems like you need to do one more.
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