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taylor Wrote:I know what you mean. I'm worse than you though, I really avoid talking about my TESC degree. It's kind of like talking about a divorce and having to answer the same lame questions over again.
I'm just curious as to why you avoid talking about a degree that comes from a regionally accredited school; after all you presumably worked hard to get it so why not be proud of it too!!!!
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ShotoJuku Wrote:I'm just curious as to why you avoid talking about a degree that comes from a regionally accredited school; after all you presumably worked hard to get it so why not be proud of it too!!!!
I agree.. I didn't mean to say that I'm not proud of my COSC degree - I'm very proud! I just don't like talking about the testing part of it, but am very very proud to be a graduate! As I've mentioned, no need to elaborate if you don't want to regarding classes - TESC is a state college in NJ - why be nervous about this?
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Shoto and burbuja, my experiences after graduating with a TESC degree is probably different from yours. I was unemployed at the time and needed it to get a job once I relocated back to CA. Going through the interview process made me realize that there are hiring managers that were skeptical about my TESC degree. One interviewer mentioned to me during the interview that she never heard of TESC with a puzzled look on her face. At that point I started to get a bit defensive before I caught myself and just briefly explained to her that it was a state school. I'm not sure if she was satisfied with my answer but needless to say I didn't get that job. Then another interviewer with another company asked me about TESC as he was escorting me out of the building after the interview was over. Yes I know that may seem like a normal question to some but I highly doubt he would've asked me about my degree if I had gone to other lesser known B&M schools such as Northern Iowa or LIU. I did eventually get into a Fortune 100 company with my degree but I know it had more to do with my interview skills and my good looks =) I mean I do appreciate the fact that my degree got me into interviews that I otherwise wouldn't have been selected for. But at the same time I do get annoyed when interviewers fixate on my degree during an interview. I'd rather them focus on my work experience and my good looks lol.
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taylor Wrote:Shoto and burbuja, my experiences after graduating with a TESC degree is probably different from yours. I was unemployed at the time and needed it to get a job once I relocated back to CA. Going through the interview process made me realize that there are hiring managers that were skeptical about my TESC degree. One interviewer mentioned to me during the interview that she never heard of TESC with a puzzled look on her face. At that point I started to get a bit defensive before I caught myself and just briefly explained to her that it was a state school. I'm not sure if she was satisfied with my answer but needless to say I didn't get that job. Then another interviewer with another company asked me about TESC as he was escorting me out of the building after the interview was over. Yes I know that may seem like a normal question to some but I highly doubt he would've asked me about my degree if I had gone to other lesser known B&M schools such as Northern Iowa or LIU. I did eventually get into a Fortune 100 company with my degree but I know it had more to do with my interview skills and my good looks =) I mean I do appreciate the fact that my degree got me into interviews that I otherwise wouldn't have been selected for. But at the same time I do get annoyed when interviewers fixate on my degree during an interview. I'd rather them focus on my work experience and my good looks lol.
LOL... yes the good looks part is important
There will always be a disadvantage with ANY unknown school, but it's important to keep it in perspective. In a post here a long time ago, I mentioned an expensive local school that is supposedly very prestigious (well, they think they're important even if no one has heard of them.) The school is Colorado College and here is a link to their tuition page, which at a bare minimum will cost you 44k per year excluding additional fees: Tuition & Fees Depending on how long it takes you to finish, this means that this almost completely unknown degree will cost you 176-264k without taking into account books or other expenses. I guarantee that the person interviewing you has NOT heard of this school and there are a ton of similar unknown, yet costly colleges out there. I think that a Big 3 degree is WAAAAAAAY better than these options.
In all of the resumes that I've seen in positions where I've hired, I rarely have seen a well-known school other than State U. Most people at least here where I live and in the positions that I've hired for just don't have top notch schools on the resume. (keep in mind I have hired for sales positions.. the starting salary is much higher than an average job, but ivy leaguers probably aren't trying to get into B2B sales) My suspicion is that your school didn't "look good" only because you were uncomfortable talking about it. I would tend to bet that answering confidently that TESC is a state college in NJ would easily answer the question without any doubts. Of course, if the hiring manager places a high degree of importance on obtaining a degree from a certain type of college, you'll automatically be at a disadvantage if you don't fall into his or her preferred category. More often than not, I've seen a hiring manager give preference to his/her alma mater OR State U.. generally because he/she went to State U and especially if your State U has a popular football team. Sad to say, but true..
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burbuja0512 Wrote:There will always be a disadvantage with ANY unknown school, but it's important to keep it in perspective. In a post here a long time ago, I mentioned an expensive local school that is supposedly very prestigious (well, they think they're important even if no one has heard of them.) The school is Colorado College and here is a link to their tuition page, which at a bare minimum will cost you 44k per year excluding additional fees: Tuition & Fees Depending on how long it takes you to finish, this means that this almost completely unknown degree will cost you 176-264k without taking into account books or other expenses. I guarantee that the person interviewing you has NOT heard of this school and there are a ton of similar unknown, yet costly colleges out there. I think that a Big 3 degree is WAAAAAAAY better than these options. Yes there are many expensive B&M schools that not many have heard of. Wow Colorado College is a ripoff! However, if I was a Colorado College grad, for some reason I think my degree would just go under the radar during an interview. Maybe I'm wrong?
Quote:My suspicion is that your school didn't "look good" only because you were uncomfortable talking about it. I would tend to bet that answering confidently that TESC is a state college in NJ would easily answer the question without any doubts.
Because of my sales background like yourself, I'm good at reading people's mannerisms and body language. I usually can tell when someone is serious and when someone is just stroking me. When the first interviewer mentioned that she never heard of TESC. She wasn't asking me because she had a sincere interest in TESC. She wanted me to prove to her that the school was legit. The second interviewer I responded with "TESC was going to merge with Rutgers." That answer must've caught him off guard because he told me "I love the Rutgers basketball team!" Yeah right??? Rutgers has a crappy basketball team, never has been good. But surprisingly with that company I did get a 2nd interview because of my good looks =)
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(02-10-2019, 12:37 PM)dewisant Wrote: I have over 21,000 connections on LinkedIn. Didn't there used to be an InstantCert group on LinkedIn?
I don't recall seeing one, but LinkedIn is phasing out groups anyway so if it did exist and wasn't super active, it has probably been shut down by now. Even if it is active, it will soon be gone.
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Did someone say LinkedIn?? I want to post Me me me!!!
And @Merlin, I have heard different things about groups, that LinkedIn doesn't know what to do with them and has been somewhat wishy-washy. I really hope they keep them, but they are fairly hidden right now.
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(02-11-2019, 08:55 AM)burbuja0512 Wrote: Did someone say LinkedIn?? I want to post Me me me!!!
And @Merlin, I have heard different things about groups, that LinkedIn doesn't know what to do with them and has been somewhat wishy-washy. I really hope they keep them, but they are fairly hidden right now.
From what I've heard from folks I know who work (or worked) there, the writing is on the wall that they will be removing them eventually. For now, I imagine they are just making them less visible so when they pull the plug it won't impact as many people.
I'm still fairly active on LinkedIn all the same, but I use it more for keeping in touch with former colleagues and keeping an eye on what's going with the companies and people I follow.
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