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Just found out today that I needed 60 graded credits BEFORE my FIRST bachelor's degree is conferred. I have 31 credits (1 ASU + 30 UMPI) with a GPA of 4.0 before conferring BLS with Minor in Psychology.
Does it make any difference for the application now if I don't have a cGPA with LSAC? Does it make any sense to get additional undergraduate credits since it still won't help with getting a cGPA with LSAC?
Trying to understand if I need to forget about my dream of getting into ABA T14 or at least T50 law school, or instead, focus on LSAT and get a high score with my GPA 4.0 and still apply?
Appreciate any input.
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(03-16-2025, 01:10 PM)Nemfis Wrote: Just found out today that I needed 60 graded credits BEFORE my FIRST bachelor's degree is conferred. I have 31 credits (1 ASU + 30 UMPI) with a GPA of 4.0 before conferring BLS with Minor in Psychology.
Does it make any difference for the application now if I don't have a cGPA with LSAC? Does it make any sense to get additional undergraduate credits since it still won't help with getting a cGPA with LSAC?
Trying to understand if I need to forget about my dream of getting into ABA T14 or at least T50 law school, or instead, focus on LSAT and get a high score with my GPA 4.0 and still apply?
Appreciate any input. All the best in achieving your goals.
Do you hope to practice law?
I completed a few law school classes from a California distance law school with no desire of ever taking neither the mini BAR exam nor the BAR exam. That said, law school is quite challenging.
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(03-16-2025, 01:45 PM)Charles Fout Wrote: (03-16-2025, 01:10 PM)Nemfis Wrote: Just found out today that I needed 60 graded credits BEFORE my FIRST bachelor's degree is conferred. I have 31 credits (1 ASU + 30 UMPI) with a GPA of 4.0 before conferring BLS with Minor in Psychology.
Does it make any difference for the application now if I don't have a cGPA with LSAC? Does it make any sense to get additional undergraduate credits since it still won't help with getting a cGPA with LSAC?
Trying to understand if I need to forget about my dream of getting into ABA T14 or at least T50 law school, or instead, focus on LSAT and get a high score with my GPA 4.0 and still apply?
Appreciate any input. All the best in achieving your goals.
Do you hope to practice law?
I completed a few law school classes from a California distance law school with no desire of ever taking neither the mini BAR exam nor the BAR exam. That said, law school is quite challenging.
Thank you very much for your warm words of support.
Yes, eventually, I wanted to become a personal injury/disability lawyer and advocate for people with disability. That being said, I, myself, when I was 27 (October 2023), was in a not at fault car accident and have spinal cord injuries and shoulder injury which I will be suffering from the whole my life, not to mention PTSD after the car accident, Anxiety Disorder (hard to realize your whole future will be with a cane and you can't work as much as you were able before to feed your kids and support your wife) and my childhood ADHD. Studying became one of my few joys in life, along with my family, and I found DegreeForum right a month after my accident and got my UMPI undergrad and ENEB Master's from home in a year with the help from Sophia and the assistance and support of our forum members. I see how disabled people are in dire need of support and advocating for them, and it was my own experience as well, so I was inspired by my story and story of other people, doesn't matter, younger or older than me, who need advocating, and also considering my learning style, I decided to become a lawyer.
Now, looking at my story, I am even more frustrated and upset that I won't be able to apply with LSAT GPA. That's why I am looking for success stories from other members. I am considering NWCULaw, though, but as a last resort.
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Interesting turn of events, do you have an action plan on attacking this educational journey? Elaborate on your plan and strategy... I agree, NWCU Law should be your last resort. T50 to T100 you'll have a better luck than the T14. You need to get an action plan in place and work on it...
Here's a read about law school, it's not recent, at least 2.5-3 years ago though... I wonder if the student actually followed through and applied to multiple institutions or not. dfrecore and I mentioned the same thing, however, at the end, she went on a tangent... Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...beral-Arts
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(03-16-2025, 03:02 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Interesting turn of events, do you have an action plan on attacking this educational journey? Elaborate on your plan and strategy... I agree, NWCU Law should be your last resort. T50 to T100 you'll have a better luck than the T14. You need to get an action plan in place and work on it...
Here's a read about law school, it's not recent, at least 2.5-3 years ago though... I wonder if the student actually followed through and applied to multiple institutions or not. dfrecore and I mentioned the same thing, however, at the end, she went on a tangent... Link: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...beral-Arts
By the way, saying "with the support of Forum Members", I also was meaning you personally too. Thanks for answering to countless PMs and posts of mine!
I will go through this thread now. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Basically. Here's the thought process I would go by, you want to apply to the T14 that you think you want to enroll in most, I would do the top 3 choices, example: Cornell, Northwestern, U of Penn, or whatever your top 3 is. Then, you want to apply to a set of top 50, a set of top 100. However, having said that, you want to do one thing before you apply to any of these set. Send a personalized email to each institution asking them about three things: Admissions without LSAC GPA, Alternatives or Options to strengthen your application, Recommendations for rectifying the issue.
Once you get a detailed response from each and every one of these, it could be all T14, all T50, and T100 institutions. If X of them indicate they'll have a null or no GPA showing on LSAC, or your application would be delayed, skip them and not waste $ on application fees. If they mention they'll still process the application without the LSAC GPA, apply to them by making sure your application is strong enough in all areas, not just the GPA. You want to apply to a few institutions in and out of state as that is what people do, sticking with one institution is not my recommendation at all.
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(03-16-2025, 03:26 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Basically. Here's the thought process I would go by, you want to apply to the T14 that you think you want to enroll in most, I would do the top 3 choices, example: Cornell, Northwestern, U of Penn, or whatever your top 3 is. Then, you want to apply to a set of top 50, a set of top 100. However, having said that, you want to do one thing before you apply to any of these set. Send a personalized email to each institution asking them about three things: Admissions without LSAC GPA, Alternatives or Options to strengthen your application, Recommendations for rectifying the issue.
Once you get a detailed response from each and every one of these, it could be all T14, all T50, and T100 institutions. If X of them indicate they'll have a null or no GPA showing on LSAC, or your application would be delayed, skip them and not waste $ on application fees. If they mention they'll still process the application without the LSAC GPA, apply to them by making sure your application is strong enough in all areas, not just the GPA. You want to apply to a few institutions in and out of state as that is what people do, sticking with one institution is not my recommendation at all.
A lot of law schools will provide waivers on the application fee. Sometimes they are provided from an in-person event, other times online event or other times, just ask admissions for a application fee waiver. Some will provide, while others don't.
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Leverage your bachelor's degree and go for a master's degree with 30 graded credits for a total of "60" graded credits. If the price is an issue, get an MBA at Hellenic American University for $ 3,000 while studying for the LSAT. Do you have any opinions on improving the success of getting accepted to an ABA law school with a graduate degree?
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(03-16-2025, 05:06 PM)Stonybeach Wrote: Leverage your bachelor's degree and go for a master's degree with 30 graded credits for a total of "60" graded credits. If the price is an issue, get an MBA at Hellenic American University for $ 3,000 while studying for the LSAT. Do you have any opinions on improving the success of getting accepted to an ABA law school with a graduate degree?
Law schools only consider the FIRST bachelor degree for the 60 graded credits. So, getting another bachelor or master's doesn't help.
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(03-16-2025, 05:08 PM)HogwartsSchool Wrote: (03-16-2025, 05:06 PM)Stonybeach Wrote: Leverage your bachelor's degree and go for a master's degree with 30 graded credits for a total of "60" graded credits. If the price is an issue, get an MBA at Hellenic American University for $ 3,000 while studying for the LSAT. Do you have any opinions on improving the success of getting accepted to an ABA law school with a graduate degree?
Law schools only consider the FIRST bachelor degree for the 60 graded credits. So, getting another bachelor or master's doesn't help.
Yes, I found a reference to your statement here: https://www.lsac.org/applying-law-school...marization
Does the OP already hold a conferred bachelor's degree?
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