I'm already burnt out

[LevelUP]

However, this isn't 1999 anymore and Java is plain old and annoying

If you think Java is old and annoying, try coding in Cobol. They are still teaching Cobol in college in some areas because a lot of government and some businesses still run on Cobol.

In 2020, there was a lot of demand for Cobol programmers because of all the new changes due to coof legislation.

I personally have a love/hate relationship with Cobol.

[MrPanda]

My father works programming in Cobol for a Spanish bank.

[housecat]

However, this isn't 1999 anymore and Java is plain old and annoying

If you think Java is old and annoying, try coding in Cobol. They are still teaching Cobol in college in some areas because a lot of government and some businesses still run on Cobol.

In 2020, there was a lot of demand for Cobol programmers because of all the new changes due to coof legislation.

I personally have a love/hate relationship with Cobol.

Yep I have programmed Fortran and COBOL, not a ton, but the jobs I did paid quite well. Yeah I agree syntactically "oooof + aight fine for the money" on both are my feelings. Ada is also of interest. But the ecosystem for Java EE is really sprawling and huge. Syntactically, with Java, I'm like "meh not bad" level, but OMFG when there's an error and it decides to not show the line number or just be strangley obtuse, and it's someone else's code to boot, oh my gaaaaaaaawd. Come to think of it, I'm not sure any other language even my blessed C# has such a big eco-system. Perhaps it could be argued if you cobble together a bunch of C++ then it could compete with size of eco-system, but I mean the more or less blessed-by-Oracle eco-system of Java. So it has a lot of value to learn, just gotta keep your head in the game when doing it. It also makes Android development "slightly" easier but that is a prime-steak all on it's own without mentioning Java.

Oh side note, fireship (100 Seconds of Code) on YouTube has sold me on Expo, finally a proper looking framework for iOS+Android+Webapp launching. Android+iOS dev without owning a mac AND using VSCode. Boss-level stuff here, no more Android Studio or wretched XCode!

I think new programmers are better served going for C and C++ with a side serving of SQL these days then they can pick up basically any other language and be like ah okay it's doing this or that, easy-peasy, an excellent base. It's also good for them to "see" how people think about assembler and why C/C++ are excellent languages. Oh! C++ allows the bridge to IBM/AS400 programming and wooooooooooow money money money it's raining serious money for those jobs 

[housecat]

However, this isn't 1999 anymore and Java is plain old and annoying

If you think Java is old and annoying, try coding in Cobol. They are still teaching Cobol in college in some areas because a lot of government and some businesses still run on Cobol.

In 2020, there was a lot of demand for Cobol programmers because of all the new changes due to coof legislation.

I personally have a love/hate relationship with Cobol.

Yep I have programmed Fortran and COBOL, not a ton, but the jobs I did paid quite well. Yeah I agree syntactically "oooof + aight fine for the money" on both are my feelings. Ada is also of interest. But the ecosystem for Java EE is really sprawling and huge. Syntactically, with Java, I'm like "meh not bad" level, but OMFG when there's an error and it decides to not show the line number or just be strangley obtuse, and it's someone else's code to boot, oh my gaaaaaaaawd. Come to think of it, I'm not sure any other language even my blessed C# has such a big eco-system. Perhaps it could be argued if you cobble together a bunch of C++ then it could compete with size of eco-system, but I mean the more or less blessed-by-Oracle eco-system of Java. So it has a lot of value to learn, just gotta keep your head in the game when doing it. It also makes Android development "slightly" easier but that is a prime-steak all on it's own without mentioning Java.

Oh side note, fireship (100 Seconds of Code) on YouTube has sold me on Expo, finally a proper looking framework for iOS+Android+Webapp launching. Android+iOS dev without owning a mac AND using VSCode. Boss-level stuff here, no more Android Studio or wretched XCode!

I think new programmers are better served going for C and C++ with a side serving of SQL these days then they can pick up basically any other language and be like ah okay it's doing this or that, easy-peasy, an excellent base. It's also good for them to "see" how people think about assembler and why C/C++ are excellent languages. Oh! C++ allows the bridge to IBM/AS400 programming and wooooooooooow money money money it's raining serious money for those jobs 

Found it! Here's a web development bootcamp by Angela Yu who is a popular instructor. Rock bottom price on Udemy!

[pluggingalong]

I'm doing well (for me) at WGU, since I got over my months long quitting period. I caught up to where I was supposed to be, and am ahead of schedule again. I think I was depressed before, because I kept thinking I had 2 more years of classes to do. After looking at the curriculum, I realized I only had 1 year of boring classes left (if I go 2x speed), and then 1 year of 'fun" classes. I am now just trying to get through the next year's classes as fast I can. I am also trying to do the Objective Assessments classes first, because I don't like taking them. Once they are done, most of the remaining classes will be Project Assessment, which are super low-stress for me. I'm in the Data Analytics BS program, and am trying to get to the AI classes. I should be there this time next year.

[Vle045]

I'm doing well (for me) at WGU, since I got over my months long quitting period. I caught up to where I was supposed to be, and am ahead of schedule again. I think I was depressed before, because I kept thinking I had 2 more years of classes to do.  After looking at the curriculum, I realized I only had 1 year of boring classes left (if I go 2x speed), and then 1 year of 'fun" classes. I am now just trying to get through the next year's classes as fast I can. I am also trying to do the Objective Assessments classes first, because I don't like taking them. Once they are done, most of the remaining classes will be Project Assessment, which are super low-stress for me. I'm in the Data Analytics BS program, and am trying to get to the AI classes. I should be there this time next year.

Glad to see you found some motivation!  It can be hard sometimes.

[pluggingalong]

Everything was going great until I got in to D420 Discrete Math. This class, and probably its sequel D421, might exceed the abilities of my old brain. I'm only 50% of the way through the material, and am completely lost. My semester runs out next month. If I can't pass it, I am thinking of dropping out taking D420 and D421 at Study.com. Maybe hearing the material from another angle would help. If I switch to SDC, I'd probably take any other transferable courses while I was there, and also get the CompTIA P+ needed for the Data Science degree. Then I could re-enroll in to WGU, and pick-up where I left off, except skipping the problematic courses. I'm always stressed at WGU because I feel like I have to do as much as possible within a 6 month term, at SDC I would be more relaxed going month-to-month. I could also stop for a month or two and do some travelling, which I can't do right now.

If I couldn't pass the Math classes at SDC, I could choose a major at WGU that I already had all the Math for, probably Cloud. If I picked Cloud, I would probably delay re-enrolling in WGU, and get all the certs (there are a bunch) before I re-enrolled. I hate cert exams, but I can do them given enough time. I would only do that if I felt like it was really impossible for me to pass D420/D421.

If I failed at the Math classes at SDC *and* failed at the AWS/Azure/CompTIA certs from the vendors, I may have to pick another college. If I got to that point, I would be willing to look at the non-tech degrees people always get when getting their degree "in 6 months". Things like web-marketing, small business, etc. I would just be punting for a degree at that point. I guess the next 4 weeks will tell.

[Jonathan Whatley]

Keep fighting! Even better, keep plugging along. You'll get this!

[Imbanewbie]

Everything was going great until I got in to D420 Discrete Math. This class, and probably its sequel D421, might exceed the abilities of my old brain. I'm only 50% of the way through the material, and am completely lost. My semester runs out next month. If I can't pass it, I am thinking of dropping out taking D420 and D421 at Study.com. Maybe hearing the material from another angle would help. If I switch to SDC, I'd probably take any other transferable courses while I was there, and also get the CompTIA P+ needed for the Data Science degree.  Then I could re-enroll in to WGU, and pick-up where I left off, except skipping the problematic courses. I'm always stressed at WGU because I feel like I have to do as much as possible within a 6 month term, at SDC I would be more relaxed going month-to-month. I could also stop for a month or two and do some travelling, which I can't do right now.

If I couldn't pass the Math classes at SDC, I could choose a major at WGU that I already had all the Math for, probably Cloud. If I picked Cloud, I would probably delay re-enrolling in WGU, and get all the certs (there are a bunch) before I re-enrolled. I hate cert exams, but I can do them given enough time. I would only do that if I felt like it was really impossible for me to pass D420/D421.

If I failed at the Math classes at SDC *and* failed at the AWS/Azure/CompTIA certs from the vendors, I may have to pick another college. If I got to that point, I would be willing to look at the non-tech degrees people always get when getting their degree "in 6 months". Things like web-marketing, small business, etc. I would just be punting for a degree at that point. I guess the next 4 weeks will tell.

Please keep up the fight and find a way to pass those courses. You can use Reddit to find tips and materials to help you pass WGU exams and vendors (AWS/Azure/Comptia).

[LevelUP]

Everything was going great until I got in to D420 Discrete Math. This class, and probably its sequel D421, might exceed the abilities of my old brain. I'm only 50% of the way through the material, and am completely lost. My semester runs out next month. If I can't pass it, I am thinking of dropping out taking D420 and D421 at Study.com. Maybe hearing the material from another angle would help. If I switch to SDC, I'd probably take any other transferable courses while I was there, and also get the CompTIA P+ needed for the Data Science degree.  Then I could re-enroll in to WGU, and pick-up where I left off, except skipping the problematic courses. I'm always stressed at WGU because I feel like I have to do as much as possible within a 6 month term, at SDC I would be more relaxed going month-to-month. I could also stop for a month or two and do some travelling, which I can't do right now.

If I couldn't pass the Math classes at SDC, I could choose a major at WGU that I already had all the Math for, probably Cloud. If I picked Cloud, I would probably delay re-enrolling in WGU, and get all the certs (there are a bunch) before I re-enrolled. I hate cert exams, but I can do them given enough time. I would only do that if I felt like it was really impossible for me to pass D420/D421.

If I failed at the Math classes at SDC *and* failed at the AWS/Azure/CompTIA certs from the vendors, I may have to pick another college. If I got to that point, I would be willing to look at the non-tech degrees people always get when getting their degree "in 6 months". Things like web-marketing, small business, etc. I would just be punting for a degree at that point. I guess the next 4 weeks will tell.

Discrete Math isn't easy on Study.com, as people usually barely pass it with a C, though I haven't heard of anybody failing three times. Normally, if you score 70% on the practice exam, you can pass the final, which requires only a 55% grade. 

Math-wise, Discrete Math is easy, as it's simple algebra using a calculator and only about 25% of the final exam. However, the course is a mile wide and an inch deep, so there are a lot of concepts to remember. 

Timewise, people spend 20-40 hours on that course if they efficiently study.