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How many courses can I enrol at max. per term at TESU?
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I have a degree from overseas which is not well accepted in the US.

My chose destination US university will accept in my case credit transfer but with grades on the transcript. So, CLEPs or TECEPs are excluded. 

Upon searching, I quite like the TESU's flat rate tuition plan after 9 redits or more.

Question: What is the max. upper limit of number of credits I can take per term at TESU? Can I do 24 credits (8 x 3-credit hour) courses in one term?


Edit:

– I will take courses on course-by-course basis, not as a degree seeking student.

– I will pay myself, no financial aid, since I am not US citizen
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If you're looking to acquire graded credits from an American University while paying out of pocket as a non-degree-seeking student, there are much cheaper and easier ways to accomplish that. Common options include TEL Learning and Arizona State University EA/ULC, see here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sources_of_Credit
Furthermore, what is the end goal here? Why are you seeking to do this, and why won't CLEP or non-graded sources of credit work?
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(12-11-2021, 07:57 PM)jch Wrote: If you're looking to acquire graded credits from an American University while paying out of pocket as a non-degree-seeking student, there are much cheaper and easier ways to accomplish that. Common options include TEL Learning and Arizona State University EA/ULC, see here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sources_of_Credit
Furthermore, what is the end goal here? Why are you seeking to do this, and why won't CLEP or non-graded sources of credit work?
Wow, thank you, just looked up TEL and didn't know about it. I'm really thankful. To answer your questions:

– My US destination university admissions advisor stated that because of my overseas degree, US credit by exam (TECEP or CLEP) will not be acceptable to them (becuase they want to see university/ college academic experience in my particular case).

– Also, sophia, straighter line, UoPeople etc. will not be acceptable to them as they will either accept credit for prior learning from international credit equivalency service (which I will not pass because my home university isn't... I just don't want to talk about it) or will accept transfer from a regionally accredited college/ university credit in the US.
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@user2137, I am curious where are you from? Which University are you trying to transfer into? Is there a specific degree you're planning to get into? In addition to the previous suggestion, I would recommend maybe taking community college credits at NMJC, ONU (Olivet), UEXCELS (if you're into graded exams). There are so many ways of getting credit... cheaper, easier, faster...

You don't have to provide us about your personal details, we want to know more on your situation and so, we can help you with more details... How young are you? Do you have any certs, college credits, diplomas/degrees, experience? Do you have a set budget? How much energy/time can you spend on your education? Again, the more details of "what you want/need" we can further assist.
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(12-11-2021, 08:14 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @user2137, I am curious where are you from?  Which University are you trying to transfer into?  Is there a specific degree you're planning to get into?  In addition to the previous suggestion, I would recommend maybe taking community college credits at NMJC, ONU (Olivet), UEXCELS (if you're into graded exams).  There are so many ways of getting credit... cheaper, easier, faster...

You don't have to provide us about your personal details, we want to know more on your situation and so, we can help you with more details...  How young are you? Do you have any certs, college credits, diplomas/degrees, experience?  Do you have a set budget?  How much energy/time can you spend on your education?  Again, the more details of "what you want/need" we can further assist.

Age:
Mid-30s.

From:
Southeast Asia.

Educational background:
Dropped out of local university here at 20, never completed it, and my home university wasn't very good, no where in the national rankings. I've been working since I was 20 in a multinational company here.

My educational level:
Over last 15 years, I've always compared myself with colelagues who graduated from US and Europe and came here as managers and employees. I am comfortable in rating myself at GPA 3.0 level student. I have 110 score at TOEFL iBT.

Destination US university:
HES' ALB/ALM program in Management.

Why ALB too:
I know that I can take MITx Micromasters pathway direct to ALM, but I want to do it the right way properly with a bachelors and then a masters' degree. I'm choising to study at this point in my life as a personal choice, not for university flex, or to find a job (although I admit my prospects will imporve a lot, but personal motivation to study at a challenging university is my first reason).

But at the same time, I don't want to spend US $500 per credit for all 128 credits for a bachelors degree for the reason of time and more importantly value.

Budget:
I've saved enough to fund it all personally (but with value in mind), and it helps that I can do most of HES' program online whilst working.


Thank you so much for talking to me. I would really appreciate advice. For the last few months, I've been planning this all on my own, and it was only after I found TESU for cheaper credit for lower level courses, that I searched online and found this forum.

I will greatly be most obliged if you can share more helpful information that might help me. Just the above two post replies have been more helpful than my months of search on my own. I really thank you for that.
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Woo Hoo! Harvard Extension School! Hmm, I suggest skipping the ALB as the Bachelors is going to be expensive... Even if you can transfer in 90 credits and take the final 30 credits with them, it's still expensive! You can get more degrees at the Bachelors level and just go for the ALM instead, the ALM already by itself is $35K USD. I've looked at their offerings before and have had several people ask about doing the Bachelors at HES, my recommendation has been, to do the Masters alone if they want the "HES" under their belt.
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(12-11-2021, 08:52 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Woo Hoo!  Harvard Extension School!  Hmm, I suggest skipping the ALB as the Bachelors is going to be expensive...  Even if you can transfer in 90 credits and take the final 30 credits with them, it's still expensive!  You can get more degrees at the Bachelors level and just go for the ALM instead, the ALM already by itself is $35K USD.  I've looked at their offerings before and have had several people ask about doing the Bachelors at HES, my recommendation has been, to do the Masters alone if they want the "HES" under their belt.

So, do we know what is the mix. number of credits a non-degree seeking student can take per term at TESU?
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Yup, the max you can take per term is 16 credits using that Flat Tuition Rate, even though on the webpage shows 15. I've had someone actually was able to complete 18 credits as they showed evidence in college they were able to successfully maintain such as course load with flying colors. You need to ask to get anything over 16 credits, it may/may not be approved by the academic advising team or the registrar team... Link: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/ug-tuition-comparison

Now get this, if you are going for TESU courses, you might as well get a degree or two with them towards the 90 graded credits at HES ALB if you are adamant in getting an additional ALB with HES. You need to note for the ALB, the cheapest that will come out to, is $30K USD for those last 30 credits, you can have two associates, two bachelors and two masters from "public/state" universities that are "recognized at a state/national" level, these won't be Top Tier though.

Example, get a TESU BSBA in General Management and a BS Data Analytics, that's two Bachelors for under 10K. You can then go for a couple of Masters before you go for the ALM at HES, my suggestion would be Walden MBA and UMASS MAOL, both would take up another 10K. You have 10K left to use for your HES ALM in Management... total, you'll spend $55K for two associates, two bachelors, 3 Masters!
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(12-11-2021, 09:21 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: Yup, the max you can take per term is 16 credits using that Flat Tuition Rate, even though on the webpage shows 15.  I've had someone actually was able to complete 18 credits as they showed evidence in college they were able to successfully maintain such as course load with flying colors.  You need to ask to get anything over 16 credits, it may/may not be approved by the academic advising team or the registrar team...  Link: https://www.tesu.edu/tuition/ug-tuition-comparison

Now get this, if you are going for TESU courses, you might as well get a degree or two with them towards the 90 graded credits at HES ALB if you are adamant in getting an additional ALB with HES.  You need to note for the ALB, the cheapest that will come out to, is $30K USD for those last 30 credits, you can have two associates, two bachelors and two masters from "public/state" universities that are "recognized at a state/national" level, these won't be Top Tier though.

Example, get a TESU BSBA in General Management and a BS Data Analytics, that's two Bachelors for under 10K.  You can then go for a couple of Masters before you go for the ALM at HES, my suggestion would be Walden MBA and UMASS MAOL, both would take up another 10K.  You have 10K left to use for your HES ALM in Management... total, you'll spend $55K for two associates, two bachelors, 3 Masters!

Thank you so much. I am going to now look into this and go back to the drawing board, literally (I have one whiteboard set-up at my place just for my course planning and to keep me motivated).

I really, really appreciate for all of this information.

As a side note on why I am really adament on HES ALB and bachelors from no where else:
Few years ago, a manager was transferred from the US to here. I always asked most of my managers what and how they studied (to plan for myself one day). This manager was a Florida A&M grad and he would not stop talking bad about it. He would literally bring it up in a conversation when talking to workers (who would probably never go to the US even for a holiday) and tell them "whatever you do, never go to Florida A&M".

Now, as a non-US person, I know about the 'florida-man' joke, but do not know what the hell happens/ happened at Florida A&M. All I have from that manager is a memory that it is so bad I must never go there, ever.

Anyway, that set me up to look and plan only for HES with a thinking that other online universities might not be of HES' rigorous standard, but after speaking to you, for which I am so greatful that I can't even put it in words, I am going to evaluate my planning and see what else I can improve, especially Walden, it looks good.
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(12-11-2021, 09:38 PM)user2137 Wrote: As a side note on why I am really adament on HES ALB and bachelors from no where else:
Few years ago, a manager was transferred from the US to here. I always asked most of my managers what and how they studied (to plan for myself one day). This manager was a Florida A&M grad and he would not stop talking bad about it. He would literally bring it up in a conversation when talking to workers (who would probably never go to the US even for a holiday) and tell them "whatever you do, never go to Florida A&M".

Now, as a non-US person, I know about the 'florida-man' joke, but do not know what the hell happens/ happened at Florida A&M. All I have from that manager is a memory that it is so bad I must never go there, ever.

First, if you're going to a terrible university, stop at the end of the semester, and switch schools.  There is zero sense continuing.

Second, FAMU is a HBCU - a Historically Black College/University.  Some are ok, but many have terrible reputations.  I personally wouldn't go to FAMU either.
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