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Help with TESU BS Construction Management?
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Hi I'm new!  2nd post ever although I have lurked for a few weeks.  

As the title says I'd like to get my BS in Construction Management from TESU.  My work provides $$ every year so I'm going to use it! 

I'm currently taking a Construction Management Course through UCLA which is expensive yet engaging.
https://www.uclaextension.edu/public/cat...Id=1061126 

I have a few small classes taken through a community college (maybe 6 credits?)  but I'd have to do most if not all the GE classes. 

https://www.tesu.edu/ast/programs/bsast/...uction.cfm


If I enroll at TESU I can take the TECEPs to get the GE out of the way?  Are they better/easier than the CLEPs?  I just read a thread today that said you only needed to pay enrollment and then for the tests.... no need for $$$$ for the credits?  


I am so new at this so any kind words will help!
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This is the kind of degree that you can't test out of at TESU. Not only are there few testing opportunities for the Area of Study (AOS - i.e. the major), but TESU doesn't offer the courses necessary to get the degree.

If you want to learn more about testing out, you can - but only the 60cr of Gen Ed and 15cr of Free Electives will work. The remaining courses (45cr worth) would have to be taken somewhere other than TESU, because they don't have any of the construction courses. There are 5 UL courses CBE's (competency based exam) for $250 each, but that's not enough credits to get the degree completed. You'd have to find the remaining courses somewhere else.

You would probably be better off finding a school that offers this specialized type of degree. Or, if you want to go through TESU, then you'd have to pick a different degree. A BS in Business Administration, and then taking the CBE's to get some construction courses under your belt might work. (CSU-Global says this for their Construction courses as well - adding them to the BS in Business as a specialization). Also, TESU has a BS in Professional Studies, where you could use the Construction Management courses in the Part B: Specialized Career Track would work.

To get started, in finding out what testing out is all about, you should first read the Beginner's Guide (although it has changed from what it used to be) and the Exam Resources - both at the top of the Gen Ed and Testing Discussion page. Then, start reading through this forum on a daily basis to continue learning. Once you get then hang of what's going on, you can decide if you want to continue looking at one of the Big 3 schools, or go to one with a Construction Management degree that you can actually earn at that school.
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That seems pretty silly to offer a degree without offering the required classes. Does TESU offer those classes online, or would that mean anyone obtaining that degree has to transfer in the classes from somewhere else?
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(04-12-2018, 10:10 PM)Muldoon Wrote: That seems pretty silly to offer a degree without offering the required classes. Does TESU offer those classes online, or would that mean anyone obtaining that degree has to transfer in the classes from somewhere else?

They offer lots of degrees that they don't give classes for.  Many are tailored to military/vets, who might have a lot of the AOS courses completed through their JST/CCAF, and just need the perfect degree to fit them to (see Air Traffic Control, Aviation, Military Tech Leadership, Nuclear, Radiation, and Technical Studies).  I'm not sure how Construction fits in, but it's possibly a military-related degree, or something where someone would take the AOS courses somewhere, and then need somewhere to bring them.
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EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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(04-12-2018, 09:23 PM)dfrecore Wrote: This is the kind of degree that you can't test out of at TESU. Not only are there few testing opportunities for the Area of Study (AOS - i.e. the major), but TESU doesn't offer the courses necessary to get the degree.

If you want to learn more about testing out, you can - but only the 60cr of Gen Ed and 15cr of Free Electives will work. The remaining courses (45cr worth) would have to be taken somewhere other than TESU, because they don't have any of the construction courses. There are 5 UL courses CBE's (competency based exam) for $250 each, but that's not enough credits to get the degree completed. You'd have to find the remaining courses somewhere else.

You would probably be better off finding a school that offers this specialized type of degree. Or, if you want to go through TESU, then you'd have to pick a different degree. A BS in Business Administration, and then taking the CBE's to get some construction courses under your belt might work. (CSU-Global says this for their Construction courses as well - adding them to the BS in Business as a specialization). Also, TESU has a BS in Professional Studies, where you could use the Construction Management courses in the Part B: Specialized Career Track would work.

To get started, in finding out what testing out is all about, you should first read the Beginner's Guide (although it has changed from what it used to be) and the Exam Resources - both at the top of the Gen Ed and Testing Discussion page. Then, start reading through this forum on a daily basis to continue learning. Once you get then hang of what's going on, you can decide if you want to continue looking at one of the Big 3 schools, or go to one with a Construction Management degree that you can actually earn at that school.

Currently I think I can use my UCLA classes (400 series classes) that are all in construction management. It will be 32 units when I am done. I also plan on some jr college lower level ones that I want to take for fun.

Or is it easier to take this credit I’m earning now and pair with a state university? I just have all these things going concurrently and hoping I can funnel them all into one school I can get a degree with. That’s why I was thinking TESU. I’m going to go read the posts you suggested and see what’s out there....
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(04-13-2018, 12:45 AM)happyjen Wrote: Currently I think I can use my UCLA classes (400 series classes) that are all in construction management. It will be 32 units when I am done. I also plan on some jr college lower level ones that I want to take for fun.

Or is it easier to take this credit I’m earning now and pair with a state university? I just have all these things going concurrently and hoping I can funnel them all into one school I can get a degree with. That’s why I was thinking TESU. I’m going to go read the posts you suggested and see what’s out there....

Using them at TESU is certainly a possibility. You need to determine whether the courses you're planning to take will fulfill the degree requirements. In your shoes, I would spend $75 on applying to TESU, then have them plan all your UCLA courses into a degree plan. Bring the results back here. If you can then test out of the rest of the degree, then TESU would be a good choice.

That said, a local state school would probably carry more weight with local employers, and you should look into the details of doing that as well. Would your employer pay for tuition there as well?
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(04-16-2018, 10:12 AM)davewill Wrote:
(04-13-2018, 12:45 AM)happyjen Wrote: Currently I think I can use my UCLA classes (400 series classes) that are all in construction management.  It will be 32 units when I am done.  I also plan on some jr college lower level ones that I want to take for fun.  

Or is it easier to take this credit I’m earning now and pair with a state university?  I just have all these things going concurrently and hoping I can funnel them all into one school I can get a degree with.  That’s why I was thinking TESU.  I’m going to go read the posts you suggested and see what’s out there....

Using them at TESU is certainly a possibility. You need to determine whether the courses you're planning to take will fulfill the degree requirements. In your shoes, I would spend $75 on applying to TESU, then have them plan all your UCLA courses into a degree plan. Bring the results back here. If you can then test out of the rest of the degree, then TESU would be a good choice.

That said, a local state school would probably carry more weight with local employers, and you should look into the details of doing that as well. Would your employer pay for tuition there as well?
I am already enrolled in TESU.  I actually enrolled last year.... I didn't even realize until I went to enroll last week that it was done.  

I sent them over an email and they said they most likely would accept the credits from UCLA provided they were an accredited school. I will follow up and send her my current schedule of classes and ask for a degree plan.  

My employer really doesn't care where I go to school as long as I can still work full time.  With that being said, the universities that are local to me are a pretty crazy commute (I live in the Bay Area, California) and I would spend more time driving than I would in class.  I'm really pursing the degree for 2 reasons.  One is I've worked in construction all my life and it would be nice to have the degree to match 25 years of experience.  The other is .... My company is a contractor to the DoD and our contract states the Project Managers have to have a degree to manage jobs.  So essentially, once I get this I get officially promoted Smile
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(04-17-2018, 12:53 PM)happyjen Wrote: I am already enrolled in TESU.  I actually enrolled last year.... I didn't even realize until I went to enroll last week that it was done.  

I sent them over an email and they said they most likely would accept the credits from UCLA provided they were an accredited school. I will follow up and send her my current schedule of classes and ask for a degree plan.  

My employer really doesn't care where I go to school as long as I can still work full time.  With that being said, the universities that are local to me are a pretty crazy commute (I live in the Bay Area, California) and I would spend more time driving than I would in class.  I'm really pursing the degree for 2 reasons.  One is I've worked in construction all my life and it would be nice to have the degree to match 25 years of experience.  The other is .... My company is a contractor to the DoD and our contract states the Project Managers have to have a degree to manage jobs.  So essentially, once I get this I get officially promoted Smile

Honestly, if this is the case, I would skip the Construction Management degree, and get the fastest possible degree you can (either Business or a BALS).

I might consider the WGU BSBA, if you can go crazy on classes and just get the degree done as quickly as possible.
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EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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(04-17-2018, 12:53 PM)happyjen Wrote: I am already enrolled in TESU.  I actually enrolled last year.... I didn't even realize until I went to enroll last week that it was done.  

I sent them over an email and they said they most likely would accept the credits from UCLA provided they were an accredited school. I will follow up and send her my current schedule of classes and ask for a degree plan.  

My employer really doesn't care where I go to school as long as I can still work full time.  With that being said, the universities that are local to me are a pretty crazy commute (I live in the Bay Area, California) and I would spend more time driving than I would in class.  I'm really pursing the degree for 2 reasons.  One is I've worked in construction all my life and it would be nice to have the degree to match 25 years of experience.  The other is .... My company is a contractor to the DoD and our contract states the Project Managers have to have a degree to manage jobs.  So essentially, once I get this I get officially promoted Smile
So far so good. There was never doubt they would take courses from UCLA, the question is whether they fulfill enough of the degree requirements so that you can test out of the rest.
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TECEP:Env Ethics (2015); TESU PLA:Software Eng, Computer Arch, C++, Advanced C++, Data Struct (2015); TESU Courses:Capstone, Database Mngmnt Sys, Op Sys, Artificial Intel, Discrete Math, Intro to Portfolio Dev, Intro PLA (2014-16); DSST:Anthro, Pers Fin, Astronomy (2014); CLEP:Intro to Soc (2014); Saylor.org:Intro to Computers (2014); CC: 69 units (1980-88)

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Last year someone posted a construction trade test out organization that was ACE recommended I believe. I remember visiting their website but I can't find them searching here. It had electrical, plumbing, carpentry, etc tests for credit.
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