Gov. Shutdown?

[quasarvs]

Would you be open to a tax increase?

Well coming back to my original post, I think there are other ways to deal with debt and increased taxes than another tax increase.

[Tedium]

The real enemy here is Canada. They have been secretly plotting against us for decades. They have sent us Nickelback, Justin Bieber, and Ted Cruz.

I am so glad that someone finally had the guts to come out and say it. I would also like to humbly beseech the court to add Carly Rae Jepsen's name to the list. Call me. Maybe?:leaving:

[Westerner]

Well coming back to my original post, I think there are other ways to deal with debt and increased taxes than another tax increase.

Yep. Politicians keep dodging the issue and acting irresponsibly...would any family run a household budget the way our government's is run?!

[NumberSix]

I think the US will cease to exist in 5 to 10 years, much like the Soviet Union. It is the natural progression for empires. And, all I can say is good riddance.

[quasarvs]

That's exactly what a paid spokesman for a gold bullion company would say.


Glenn Beck's Gold Gurus Charged With Fraud (Stephanie Mencimer, Mother Jones, May 19, 2010 with subsequent updates)

Simply reading a few sentences of this online Magazine Mother Jones tells me its view point is not exactly level either.
If you wish to call a spade a spade make sure your own cards are named accurately.
You can't judge a notoriously conservative person like Glenn Beck, using a notorious liberally-biased magazine like Mother Jones and expect a fair evaluation.
In my experience as a conservative, I believe that I can trust Sean Hannity's view-point and that it will agree with my own on various particular issues. Of course I know he's biased, but not only do I know he's biased, but I believe he's right in his bias opinions.
Not to say that it isn't foolish to take other people's word for it, but if I'm going to get snippets of news then I'd rather get it from him versus Bill Maher.
ACTUALLY, the responsible and good citizen thing to do, would be to go to all my political meetings and have a daily reading of the news to stay informed on what's really happening and to understand the issues so that one can lean on one's own direct experience before forming opinions.
But no, people are too busy and lazy for this. There are ways to make politics interesting.
And a lot of young people say, "But politics divides people". Ya know what though? There is a time and a place for
everything including politics and if you don't make time for it, it won't make time for you. You will lose out in the end.
The problem tho, is that its a shared responsibility so not only you will lose but also the people you love.
If you want to help people this is one way to do it: BE INFORMED and INFORM OTHERS.

Well, Congress seems to be failing in its basic responsibility to fund the government. Congress seems to be putting the President in a difficult position, forget politically, perhaps Constitutionally.

Okay the Congress gets its funds for running the government from us the people, so we need and some of us have demanded a budget. Raising the debt ceiling is not the answer to a budget, which means that you spend within a limit.
The President in a difficult position? He started this whole thing with the huge hike in taxes that would come with Obamacare. And has been unwilling to make compromises by sticking to debt ceilings, creating a budget, drilling here and now for natural energy and all sorts of other solutions that could relieve debt. Instead he wants to please everybody and therefore will fail at pleasing anyone.
Obama calls Boehner, still refuses to negotiate - Washington Times
Really its the apathetic American public that loses. Because Obama is as willing to hold us hostage with a shutdown as are Republicans. However, Obama, is unwilling to compromise in any significant points of issue. The Republicans compromised on the debt ceiling. What next? Is Obama, going to do anything to release the pressure of crippling debt?????

Close! In recent rankings Midland has been the U.S. city included with the lowest unemployment rate. The unemployment rate in Midland, not seasonally adjusted and not including labor force non-participants (including those who could work but stopped looking), is currently 3.4%.

Midland posts America's lowest jobless rate in December - Mywesttexas.com: Top Stories
They gotta be doing something right. The point basically is that. If we look at what is successful
and do it such as drilling for own oil etc. We would make progress in the right direction.
This article above gives a relation of what I already mentioned.

Correct: Midland is a oil and gas town during an oil and gas boom. Is its current unemployment rate scaleable across the country? Can we expect it to last forever in Midland? The unemployment rate in Midland was 6.4% at a peak in 2009, 8.3% at peaks in 1992 and 1999. Midland's unemployment rates aren't even quite scaleable to Odessa, Midland's adjacent twin city, where unemployment rates are higher sometimes by several points.

Midland, TX and Odessa, TX Unemployment Rates (Not seasonally adjusted. Via Google Public Data; data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics)

At this point, I don't think we need to worry about if's and maybe's. Even if a growth in jobs is temporary.
It's money that the person with the job didn't have before. Any experience contractor knows how this works, and
if they are really smart they know how to save for any lean times they may experience.

I think we'd disagree on all sorts of specifics. But I agree with these sentiments absolutely.

Good! But I guess as always its in the application that matters most.

[quasarvs]

I look forward to emigrating to a country with high taxes and socialized medicine. This is the driving force behind getting my degree.

Oh, this is like nails on chalk board or the puzzle piece that should fit but doesn't. Quite Ironic!
If I were you I'd leave it to the communists to use their "enemies" to benefit from and then turn around & stab them in the back.
I don't understand it!??:eek::confused: Were you born here? Why use the flexible-through-freedom society with all its accessibility to education and all that it gave you and flee to a place where you could never get the same opportunity!

[quasarvs]

I think the US will cease to exist in 5 to 10 years, much like the Soviet Union. It is the natural progression for empires. And, all I can say is good riddance.

All this unpatriotic Anti-AMERICAN sentiment bothers me. This could, I would think, only come from people who do not know much United States History.


I can understand people's frustration, and discontentment, and I feel the same way, but I look back at the people who did it right and look at their choices and the logic they used to bring them to those choices.
I'm encouraged by what we were and I know that there are answers.

[bluebooger]

Oh, this is like nails on chalk board or the puzzle piece that should fit but doesn't. Quite Ironic!
If I were you I'd leave it to the communists to use their "enemies" to benefit from and then turn around & stab them in the back.
I don't understand it!??:eek::confused: Were you born here? Why use the flexible-through-freedom society with all its accessibility to education and all that it gave you and flee to a place where you could never get the same opportunity!

you honestly believe people in Switzerland, Belgium, Canada, Germany, France, Japan, Italy, Singapore don't have accessibility to education ?

you think all of these countries with universal health care are communists and don't offer their citizens accessibility to education ?

List of Countries with Universal Healthcare | True Cost - Analyzing our economy, government policy, and society through the lens of cost-benefit


"There are no tuition fees for attending public higher education in Norway, as all the costs are covered by the Ministry of Education and Research."

Higher education in Norway - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

and that's just one country that offers free university education

and I know you''re going to come back with, "its not free, you pay for it with taxes"

but that's not the point

the point is that you're saying some nonsense that
citizens in
" a country with high taxes and socialized medicine "

" could never get the same opportunity " for accessibility to education

that's nonsense

Norway is now one of the few European states to stick to the once-sacrosanct belief in "free education for all".

While its Nordic neighbours Sweden and Denmark continue to provide free tuition for domestic and EU students only, Norway stands alone in offering free higher education to students regardless of citizenship.

Last year, that offer was taken up by almost 16,500 non-EU students - up 27 per cent from 12,997 in 2007-08. They included nearly 2,000 Russians, 699 Chinese students and 376 Iranian nationals.

Several hundred students from Ethiopia, Pakistan and Ghana enrolled at Norwegian universities last year, as did young people from the US, India and Nepal.

Last of the free: will Norway's universal no-fee policy endure? | General | Times Higher Education


LOL at all those students from Ethiopia, Pakistan and Ghana who think they're getting an education

I guess the joke's on them /sarcasm

[UptonSinclair]

You're only talking about recent history? Look back to the founding of the country and early 1800s to get a different picture (and where the tax revenue was coming from).

Tariffs

Um, what? If that's sarcasm, wow. If it's not, double wow.

It is not sarcasm that I am working toward emigration. I spent three years living in a country with higher taxes and socialized medicine and I would go back if it weren't so hard to get into one of the European Union countries. Instead, I will be content with Canada. I have plans to attend grad school there and see what happens after grad school. I gave up hope that things will get better here. As long as the government is for sale to the organization with the biggest advertising budget there is little hope for the American people.

[UptonSinclair]

Oh, this is like nails on chalk board or the puzzle piece that should fit but doesn't. Quite Ironic!
If I were you I'd leave it to the communists to use their "enemies" to benefit from and then turn around & stab them in the back.
I don't understand it!??:eek::confused: Were you born here? Why use the flexible-through-freedom society with all its accessibility to education and all that it gave you and flee to a place where you could never get the same opportunity!

I was born here, I grew up here, and I spent 12 years serving in the military of this country. Thankfully, during that time I also experienced the world beyond the borders of this country and realize the world is a very big place. I have more than paid my debt to this society.

As for the idea that I would not be able to get the benefits outside this country that I get here; you should look into what some of the Social Democracies have to offer. They charge high taxes, but they also have far better access to those little unnecessary things like healthcare and education.