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Does this method work? Do you really learn anything?
#1
Ok, so I have been away for many months due to studying for a the new certification after finishing my post-bac certificate at Stephen's college and my new job as Health Information Management Director at our local hospital. I'm happy to report that I passed my RHIA certification in Sept. and I have passed my 6 month anniversary as HIM Director. Needless to say I'm very happy that I found this forum and a great supportive network to guide me through this process which led me to go further with my education than I ever expected. I only wanted my Associates degree. Now 5 years later I have 4 degrees and a Post-Bac certificate, an additional high level professional certification and as a result my career was catapulted into a new realm I never expected was possible 5 years ago. This brings me to my topic, does this method really work?

A lot of us that have been hear for years have read and heard people say things like this is cheating, you don't really learn the material, this is a short-cut that will catch up with you etc etc. I'm here to say that this method works and I'm living proof! I use the information I learned studying for my various CLEP, DSST and ECE exams all the time. I do remember the information I studied for the exams, well maybe not American Govt, and I use the information daily while problem solving and working with my staff. I used almost every method available to me while I was completing my degrees: CLEP, DSST, ECE, UExcel, Straighterline, ALEKS and traditional online coursework. I honestly don't think one worked any better in preparing me than another, but they all worked. I do laugh to myself when I quote something I learned while studying for an exam when I counsel an employee or when I'm talking at a meeting.

I had to do this yesterday after a couple staff members had a confrontation during a stressful situation. Even though I'm doing something I have never done before I have heard that during the interview process I was the most prepared of any of the applicants interviewed, and they do an entire 8 hour interview process which includes 3 different interview panels and 3 one-on-one interviews only after you passed the initial phone panel interview! My CFO is very supportive and has said on several occasions that I'm doing a great job. Now, I will give you that I'm 50 years young and have lots of practical experience, but I believe a lot of my knowledge was gained throughout this educational journey. So for those that doubt this process can work, doubt no more and just do it! Give it your all and work hard and before you know it you will be posting your success story! Good luck!
Completed 2/09 - 5/13

RHIA Post-Bac Cert - Stephens - 5/13
MHA - Bellevue Univ - 3/12
BSHS - Excelsior 12/10
BSLS - Excelsior 3/10
ASLS - Excelsior 4/09

ECE - A&P - B
ECE - Found. of Gerontology - B
ECE - Ethics: Theory & Practice - B
ECE - Psych. of Adulthood & Aging - A
ECE - Social Psych. - B
ECE - Abnormal Psych. - B
ECE - HR Management - B
ECE - Research Methods of Psych. - B
ECE - Pathophysiology - A

CLEP - American Govt - 58
CLEP - Intro. to Sociology - 63
CLEP - A & I Lit - 70
DSST - Fund. of Counseling - A (65)
DSST - Org. Behavior - A (67)
DSST - Environment & Humanity - A (62)
DSST - Found. of Education - A (64)
DSST - Here's to Your Health - 461 (Pass)
DSST - Substance Abuse - 460 (Pass)
DSST - Principles of Supervision - A (61)
DSST - Lifespan Developmental Psych - A (59)
DSST - Criminal Justice - 443 (Pass)
DSST - MIS - 415 (Pass)
UExcel - Intro. to Psych (Beta)- Pass
ALEKS - College Alg, Stats
Straighterline - Medical Term, Pharmacology I & II
FEMA - PDS + more
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#2
Excellent feedback and indeed very motivational for some of us who just found out about this forum and options available to all of us hard workers!
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#3
I have been waiting for someone to give an in depth story of how their education with the Big 3 has helped them further their careers and education. I just finished my bachelor's program, and look forward to further education and career advancement. Like yourself, it does seem surreal in that I am further along in my education than I thought I would be.

I'm curious about something. Do you think the skills we hone taking tests teach us the invaluable skill of where to find the information we need, how to analyze the information and learn the stuff that is important to our goal (passing tests), and all this forces us to ingest and distill huge quantities of information in a short period of time? People who think this is cheating should try it; it isn't easy to learn the history of the Modern Middle East in two weeks and get an A on the DSST. And the info has not left my brain, but has deepened my understanding of modern Middle East politics and conflicts.

Anyway, thanks for sharing. I'd love to hear more stories about how people on this forum have parlayed their Big 3 degrees to either graduate schools or career advancement.
A.A. General Studies- TESC, 2013
B.A. History, TESC, 2014 - Arnold Fletcher Award - 4.0 GPA
M.A. Government, Security Studies - Johns Hopkins University, Class of 2018.


Straighterline - 26 courses, including English Comp. I & II, Western Civilization I & II, U.S. History I & II, Intro. to Sociology, Intro to Philosophy, Cultural Anthropology, Environmental Science, Science of Nutrition, Business Law, Financial Accounting, etc.

ALEKS: Intermediate Algebra

CLEP: Humanities 56, Social Sciences and History 58

FEMA: 6 credits

DSST: Civil War and Reconstruction 71, Introduction to Vietnam War 69, Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union 64, Modern Middle East 71.

TESC courses: War and American Society (A), Liberal Arts Capstone (A).

120/120! I'm there!


"Another day has passed and I didn't use Algebra once."
" Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds." Albert Einstein
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#4
When I was in high-school (and dinosaurs roamed the earth), a fellow student was getting great grades. If she had to know something for a test, she knew it. No, she wasn't one of those brilliant folks who had a mind like a laser. (I think she had anorexia, and it was a control thing, but that's only supposition.) Unfortunately, she only knew what she had to know. Talk with her about anything else, and she was clueless. Are there folks like that on this forum? Sure there are. Are there folks who have spent their lives absorbing knowledge from magazines, books, newspapers, museum visits, etc., etc., etc.? They're here, too. Both types exist in B&Ms, too. Some folks are here to get degrees for work, etc. Some are here for that, but go on to use what they've learned in their lives. Both are valid reasons for being here. I do have to admit that I can't understand why someone would take the time to learn something, and then never use it again.
TESU BSBA - GM, September 2015

"Never give up on a dream just because of the time it will take to accomplish it. The time will pass anyway." -- Earl Nightingale, radio personality and motivational speaker
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#5
This method is not for everyone. Some people learn better while others don't. I know very smart people who struggle with CBE. I feel people like me who can't pay atten..(SQUIRREL), attention for very long in a course excel using CBEs. I use IC only to reinforce what I read in a textbook. I rather read a text and absorb the info and CLEP out of it. I learn as much had I taken the course at one of the Tier 2/3 schools.

I'm pretty sure its different if you are studying at an elite university, but for my purposes, CBE is more than adequate and I do learn and retain a lot of information. I do have to admit that the Intro to Finance DSST did not prepare me for my Strategic Management course. My mentor (an NYU MBA and a really great mentor) cited that my quantitative analysis was not strong, although my writing, reasoning, understanding and citation were excellent. I may have benefited more from a formal Finance course, but that's me.
CLEPS Passed: 10 DSST Passed: 11 TECEPS: 1

PrLoko-isms
Don't waste time by trying to save time. The only sure way to complete your degree is to knock out credits quickly and efficiently.

Don't let easiness bite you in the rear. Know your endgame (where you want to be) and plan backward from there. Your education is a means to an end.

Be honest professionally, socially and academically. There are people (especially little ones) who look up to you and they're going by your example.

Be proud. Whether you're an Engineer or Fast Food worker, there is honor and dignity in hard work.

Picking on people weaker than you only proves that you are a weak person.
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#6
I'm taking college courses on ground for the first time. I'm finding it very hard to concentrate on the lectures. I've never been good at listening for a long time. I have a tendency to zone out, daydream, and fall asleep.
Graduate of Not VUL or ENEB
MS, MSS and Graduate Cert
AAS, AS, BA, and BS
CLEP
Intro Psych 70, US His I 64, Intro Soc 63, Intro Edu Psych 70, A&I Lit 64, Bio 68, Prin Man 69, Prin Mar 68
DSST
Life Dev Psych 62, Fund Coun 68, Intro Comp 469, Intro Astr 56, Env & Hum 70, HTYH 456, MIS 451, Prin Sup 453, HRM 62, Bus Eth 458
ALEKS
Int Alg, Coll Alg
TEEX
4 credits
TECEP
Fed Inc Tax, Sci of Nutr, Micro, Strat Man, Med Term, Pub Relations
CSU
Sys Analysis & Design, Programming, Cyber
SL
Intro to Comm, Microbio, Acc I
Uexcel
A&P
Davar
Macro, Intro to Fin, Man Acc
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