Foreign Language Proficiency Exam

[ali4nia]

Not that any of this has any bearing on the question asked originally....

but...

I would say knowing a language such as Hindi, Arabic, Cantonese etc could serve someone very well. You should leverage that skill as much as you can. I don't think it matters if that language skill is documented in a college degree, or in some other manner.

As to whether or not you should use those tests/credits instead of more general credits. I don't think that having Pottery 101 or Sociology 100 on a transcript will get you your dream job or help you compete any more successfully. The only exception could be if you needed Pottery 101 to get into an upper level course, like Theories of Pottery Management 300.

Want to use that language skill for credit? Go for it. Want to take a more general exam? Go for it. No difference in utility.

bottom line is, you wanna fill up your general edu req with 30 or more credits in some languages that you learned when you were kid,Cool its your choice go for it, I wont do that, I just put them on my resume and try to diversify my range of knowledge as much as possible I can name for you 10000 jobs where Hindi and Punjabi is completely useless but knowing the history U.S /world or basic psy 101 or soc 101(even if its clep!!) can help a lot, after all we are in U.S not in China or India.. WOW I cant believe I have to explain you those things.. Its so hard for some of you to understand some basic concepts hilarious maybe you should get some real education instead of constantly thinking of filling up degrees with random credits ! hilarious

[Kiwi Lover]

ali4nia,

Please refrain from using so much sarcasm and be more respectful of your fellow IC members. You have made your point, and I think your posts are getting way too rude.

JoAnne

this is the most Stu.. lets stay polite lets say ''least smart'' choice you could make

common sense 101 and psy 101 and sociology are very useful in almost every field.

Ah very impressive so lets look at your transcript, umm..general education I see mostly Punjabi, arabic,Hindi etc...

dont you see any thing wrong here?? I would be like WTF ??

I can name for you 10000 jobs where Hindi and Punjabi is completely useless but knowing the history U.S /world or basic psy 101 or soc 101(even if its clep!!) can help a lot, after all we are in U.S not in China or India.. WOW I cant believe I have to explain you those things.. Its so hard for some of you to understand some basic concepts maybe you should get some real education instead of constantly thinking of filling up degrees with random credits!

[cookderosa]

Not that any of this has any bearing on the question asked originally....

but...

I would say knowing a language such as Hindi, Arabic, Cantonese etc could serve someone very well. You should leverage that skill as much as you can. I don't think it matters if that language skill is documented in a college degree, or in some other manner.

As to whether or not you should use those tests/credits instead of more general credits. I don't think that having Pottery 101 or Sociology 100 on a transcript will get you your dream job or help you compete any more successfully. The only exception could be if you needed Pottery 101 to get into an upper level course, like Theories of Pottery Management 300.

Want to use that language skill for credit? Go for it. Want to take a more general exam? Go for it. No difference in utility.

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Spot on.

[reshab912]

Dear Moderator,
I appreciate your concerns. this forum is for helping , advising and mentoring ... not a battle ground. So i was quiet and looking for how this turns.
But it's good to see all those people around.
Thanks
Reshab

[BrandeX]

So anyone have ANY insight at all regarding my previous question in this thread? Kinda got lost in the mess

[april004]

So anyone have ANY insight at all regarding my previous question in this thread? Kinda got lost in the mess

I think it was answered already by cookderosa just not directly to your post -

It doesn't matter if you are a native speaker, because the exam is in English.
We do let our native speakers take an English test/class (English Comp!) but we test them in English of English. In this case, the exam is in English of Hindi, etc.

I have a good friend who is originally from Vietnam and Vietnamese is her first language. She took the Actfl and received credit.

[BrandeX]

Ok that is very interesting, and could be exceptionally beneficial for my wife. Thanks much.

[lrgaul]

because I dont believe in your ''who cares?'' theory I think we live in a very competitive era, employers, schools every thing.. once the transcript is requested, consider this :they DO care!! so you better build your degree right from day 1 ! myself I speak 3 other languages beside English, I only decided to take 12cr from Clep french and move on with other subjects,I can always mention my language skills on my Resume picture this :
--well tell me about yourself
--I m Mr X I graduated from college/university X regionally accredited located in state X in United States of America!
--Ah very impressive so lets look at your transcript, umm..general education I see mostly Punjabi, arabic,Hindi etc..


dont you see any thing wrong here?? I would be like WTF ?? hilarious hope you get my point !

[SIZE="2"][COLOR="Navy"]First, I must say that the comments you made to Jennifer (and everyone else for that matter) were really uncalled for. She spends a significant amount of time on this forum. She is a strong asset, and she offers insightful suggestions to people who really appreciate her effort. I would hardly say that her actions display the "who cares" mantra that you openly accused her of supporting. It is important to remember that one of the best parts about this forum is the diverse group of people we have here. Generally we can exchange ideas and feel comfortable doing so. Here is my two cents on the rest:

Fortune 100 companies drop literally millions of dollars every single year in an ongoing effort to recruit people who have broad knowledge in at least one of three main categories, which include the following: math, science, and cultural diversity. Quite frankly, a Bachelor's Degree in Linguistics is one of several degrees that are highly coveted in the business world. So how would I know? That would be because I work in human resources for a Fortune 100 company. In fact, I was a recruiter for three years before I started working on this consulting team. It may be helpful for me to mention to you that emotional intelligence and good written communication skills (to include solid grammar) are also very important skills that recruiters actively seek in potential candidates.

I have personally never asked for a recap of the electives one selected during his or her undergraduate studies. I will admit that I would find a recruiter who did anything like that to be a little spooky too. However, assuming that this actually happened at any point in time, I cannot imagine that a recruiter who was worth half the paycheck he or she was receiving would ever think that an elective in sociology or psychology was worth more than knowledge of multiple foreign languages! Actually I would even go so far as to say that I would go out of my way to brag about my electives if they were comprised of foreign languages.

Rarely does a company request copies of your transcripts at all. Most of the time companies either take your word for it that you have a degree from university of XYZ, or they have a pretty little database that will happily inform them of whether or not your credentials are legit. In any case, your electives are all yours to choose and your recruiter is unlikely to give a rip, even if you were to take all of those in Personal Enrichment categories.

Lastly, you mentioned that we live in a very competitive era. That is the one statement you made that I think is a true fact in every way. Having said that, I think you may agree that in a competitive environment, setting ourselves apart is invaluable. The truth is that nearly every undergraduate in the world is going to take psychology or sociology. In many cases, with my educational institution included, both of these courses are actually required in order to earn a bachelor's degree. It is also noteworthy to mention that a good percentage of college educated people deem introductory courses in sociology or psychology to be "EASY As" - hardly an impressive achievement. What on earth makes that so special? :confused: [/COLOR][/SIZE]

[reshab912]

It was really nice to see Iragul's post with some personal experience. It also gives a more insight about the industry and the recruiting practices.
Thanks
Reshab

[cookderosa]

It was really nice to see Iragul's post with some personal experience. It also gives a more insight about the industry and the recruiting practices.
Thanks
Reshab

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I agree! I hope you heed his wisdom and experience.