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Excelsior University UL SDC credit not counted
#1
Hello everyone,

Long time viewer first time poster. I just applied and was accepted into the BS in liberal arts program at  Excelsior University.
I found these posts extremely helpful and have tried to follow the advice on this forum in regards to Sophia.com and Study.com to max out the credit I bring in.

I am currently sitting at 107 credits accepted by Excelsior and by my math I should be at the max 113. They are claiming  I am 2 classes short specifically in the UL Arts and Science category and I don't think so..

I completed 4 UL SDC Psychology courses and Excelsior only appropriately credited me 3 UL credits for 1 course.
STUDY.COM 2022/FA ADVANCED ABNORMAL PSYCHOLOGY 306 - Excess Credit (not counted towards degree)
STUDY.COM 2022/FA INDUSTRIAL/ORGANIZATIONAL 301          - Excess Credit (not counted towards degree)
2022/FA COGNITIVE PSYCHOLOGY 302 -Taken through SDC however Excelsior counted this as LL when in ACE it is listed as UL
2022/FA PSYCHOLOGY OF MOTIVATION  315 - appropriately credited as a UL class by Excelsior

I don't need to win all these just 2 out of the 3 to get me to 113. 

Do you all who have started me on this journey have any advice, tips or input?

If I am completely wrong I will take the Loss, go back to SDC and do two more classes but I didn't think I was.
I emailed the admissions counselor and got the line that "I can't fix it but will forward your email to the evaluator and he will reach out". Color me surprised I haven't heard anything from the evaluator.



-Frank
Excelsior student trying to navigate the system.
107 credits completed towards my BS in LA
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#2
Here's a link to the sdc excelsior list https://study.com/college/school/excelsior-college.html

using that transfer guide, looks like Psy 306, 301, and 302 transfer as LL into exclesior. It is the school that makes final determination even if/when ACE has it UL.
TESU: BALS June 2021 (comm college, clep, sdc sophia coopersmith, SOS110, and capstone)

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(12-01-2022, 09:55 PM)P226mem Wrote: Here's a link to the sdc excelsior list https://study.com/college/school/excelsior-college.html

using that transfer guide, looks like Psy 306, 301, and 302 transfer as LL into exclesior.  It is the school that makes final determination even if/when ACE has it UL.

Thank you. Well that is unfortunate I thought they would go off what ACE recommends.

Do you know it Health 302, 303, 308 (listed as Health science / free elective) would cover the UL Arts and Science requirement?
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#4
(12-01-2022, 08:49 PM)frank11 Wrote: Hello everyone,

Long time viewer first time poster. I just applied and was accepted into the BS in liberal arts program at  Excelsior University.
I found these posts extremely helpful and have tried to follow the advice on this forum in regards to Sophia.com and Study.com to max out the credit I bring in.

I am currently sitting at 107 credits accepted by Excelsior and by my math I should be at the max 113. They are claiming  I am 2 classes short specifically in the UL Arts and Science category and I don't think so..

I completed 4 UL SDC Psychology courses and Excelsior only appropriately credited me 3 UL credits for 1 course.
STUDY.COM 2022/FA ADVANCED ABNORMAL PSYCHOLOGY 306 - Excess Credit (not counted towards degree)
STUDY.COM 2022/FA INDUSTRIAL/ORGANIZATIONAL 301          - Excess Credit (not counted towards degree)
2022/FA COGNITIVE PSYCHOLOGY 302 -Taken through SDC however Excelsior counted this as LL when in ACE it is listed as UL
2022/FA PSYCHOLOGY OF MOTIVATION  315 - appropriately credited as a UL class by Excelsior

I don't need to win all these just 2 out of the 3 to get me to 113. 

Do you all who have started me on this journey have any advice, tips or input?

If I am completely wrong I will take the Loss, go back to SDC and do two more classes but I didn't think I was.
I emailed the admissions counselor and got the line that "I can't fix it but will forward your email to the evaluator and he will reach out". Color me surprised I haven't heard anything from the evaluator.

Unfortunately, you used the ACE guide rather than the guide on SDC's website, which EU updates pretty regularly.   A school is never required to accept ACE's recommendations, and EU goes their own way on a lot of stuff.

I would look at these:

  • Psychology 316: Advanced Social Psychology
  • Psychology 311: Physiological Psychology
  • BUS 318: Management Ethics
  • Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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(12-01-2022, 10:07 PM)frank11 Wrote: Thank you. Well that is unfortunate I thought they would go off what ACE recommends.

Do you know it Health 302, 303, 308 (listed as Health science / free elective) would cover the UL Arts and Science requirement?

My guess  is no on those courses even though it says "science" in the Health Science part.  Why? Health Science tends to be a different division in universities than "arts and sciences".  I could be wrong on that. But....

Seconding to look at the UL courses suggested by the other poster as those seem to be a known yes.
TESU: BALS June 2021 (comm college, clep, sdc sophia coopersmith, SOS110, and capstone)

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#6
(12-01-2022, 10:07 PM)frank11 Wrote:
(12-01-2022, 09:55 PM)P226mem Wrote: Here's a link to the sdc excelsior list https://study.com/college/school/excelsior-college.html

using that transfer guide, looks like Psy 306, 301, and 302 transfer as LL into exclesior.  It is the school that makes final determination even if/when ACE has it UL.

Thank you. Well that is unfortunate I thought they would go off what ACE recommends.

Do you know it Health 302, 303, 308 (listed as Health science / free elective) would cover the UL Arts and Science requirement?

No, those are not Arts & Sciences - Health Science is not considered the same as Natural Science at EU.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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(12-01-2022, 11:22 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(12-01-2022, 08:49 PM)frank11 Wrote: Hello everyone,

Long time viewer first time poster. I just applied and was accepted into the BS in liberal arts program at  Excelsior University.
I found these posts extremely helpful and have tried to follow the advice on this forum in regards to Sophia.com and Study.com to max out the credit I bring in.

I am currently sitting at 107 credits accepted by Excelsior and by my math I should be at the max 113. They are claiming  I am 2 classes short specifically in the UL Arts and Science category and I don't think so..

I completed 4 UL SDC Psychology courses and Excelsior only appropriately credited me 3 UL credits for 1 course.
STUDY.COM 2022/FA ADVANCED ABNORMAL PSYCHOLOGY 306 - Excess Credit (not counted towards degree)
STUDY.COM 2022/FA INDUSTRIAL/ORGANIZATIONAL 301          - Excess Credit (not counted towards degree)
2022/FA COGNITIVE PSYCHOLOGY 302 -Taken through SDC however Excelsior counted this as LL when in ACE it is listed as UL
2022/FA PSYCHOLOGY OF MOTIVATION  315 - appropriately credited as a UL class by Excelsior

I don't need to win all these just 2 out of the 3 to get me to 113. 

Do you all who have started me on this journey have any advice, tips or input?

If I am completely wrong I will take the Loss, go back to SDC and do two more classes but I didn't think I was.
I emailed the admissions counselor and got the line that "I can't fix it but will forward your email to the evaluator and he will reach out". Color me surprised I haven't heard anything from the evaluator.

Unfortunately, you used the ACE guide rather than the guide on SDC's website, which EU updates pretty regularly.   A school is never required to accept ACE's recommendations, and EU goes their own way on a lot of stuff.

I would look at these:
  • Psychology 316: Advanced Social Psychology
  • Psychology 311: Physiological Psychology
  • BUS 318: Management Ethics
  • Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication

Can confirm, BUS 318 transferred in well for me recently as UL ethics. but as Humanities, not Science/Arts

Can also confirm that Soc 305 did transfer in well at UL science recently for me.

I also used Project management as UL but as elective.
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(12-13-2022, 09:31 PM)TheVilified Wrote:
(12-01-2022, 11:22 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I would look at these:
  • Psychology 316: Advanced Social Psychology
  • Psychology 311: Physiological Psychology
  • BUS 318: Management Ethics
  • Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication

Can confirm, BUS 318 transferred in well for me recently as UL ethics. but as Humanities, not Science/Arts

Can also confirm that Soc 305 did transfer in well at UL science recently for me.

I also used Project management as UL but as elective.

Humanities courses ARE Arts & Sciences - Excelsior calls their Gen Ed courses "Arts & Sciences."  So any Humanities, Social Sciences, Natural Sciences, or Math courses will fit in this area.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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(12-16-2022, 06:33 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(12-13-2022, 09:31 PM)TheVilified Wrote:
(12-01-2022, 11:22 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I would look at these:
  • Psychology 316: Advanced Social Psychology
  • Psychology 311: Physiological Psychology
  • BUS 318: Management Ethics
  • Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication

Can confirm, BUS 318 transferred in well for me recently as UL ethics. but as Humanities, not Science/Arts

Can also confirm that Soc 305 did transfer in well at UL science recently for me.

I also used Project management as UL but as elective.

Humanities courses ARE Arts & Sciences - Excelsior calls their Gen Ed courses "Arts & Sciences."  So any Humanities, Social Sciences, Natural Sciences, or Math courses will fit in this area.

Also worth mentioning that the Cornerstone and Capstone came in as A/S for me.
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(12-18-2022, 03:01 PM)TheVilified Wrote:
(12-16-2022, 06:33 PM)dfrecore Wrote:
(12-13-2022, 09:31 PM)TheVilified Wrote:
(12-01-2022, 11:22 PM)dfrecore Wrote: I would look at these:
  • Psychology 316: Advanced Social Psychology
  • Psychology 311: Physiological Psychology
  • BUS 318: Management Ethics
  • Sociology 305: Sociology of Work
  • Business 313: Organizational Communication

Can confirm, BUS 318 transferred in well for me recently as UL ethics. but as Humanities, not Science/Arts

Can also confirm that Soc 305 did transfer in well at UL science recently for me.

I also used Project management as UL but as elective.

Humanities courses ARE Arts & Sciences - Excelsior calls their Gen Ed courses "Arts & Sciences."  So any Humanities, Social Sciences, Natural Sciences, or Math courses will fit in this area.

Also worth mentioning that the Cornerstone and Capstone came in as A/S for me.

I've been told multiple times that EU does not consider the Cornerstone an A&S course - it's a Free Elective.  So I guess YMMV on that one - because I've seen MANY evaluations from EU, and none had the Cornerstone as an A&S course.
TESU BSBA/HR 2018 - WVNCC BOG AAS 2017 - GGU Cert in Mgmt 2000
EXAMS: TECEP Tech Wrtg, Comp II, LA Math, PR, Computers  DSST Computers, Pers Fin  CLEP Mgmt, Mktg
COURSES: TESU Capstone  Study.com Pers Fin, Microecon, Stats  Ed4Credit Acct 2  PF Fin Mgmt  ALEKS Int & Coll Alg  Sophia Proj Mgmt The Institutes - Ins Ethics  Kaplan PLA
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