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TrailRunr Wrote:If you want to be a developer, you want the CS. The problem is that I don't believe you will be able to pass the tech interview based upon MOOCs and courses you take for the TESU CS, especially if you make liberal use of the test out options. The degree is for the initial HR screen. Not very useful after that.
I have to disagree. I don't think ANY degree program by itself can prepare you for a successful career. IMHO, developers are born, not made. Taking MOOCs gives you precisely what you put into them. If you have the aptitude and enthusiasm to experiment and push yourself to go beyond the minimum, you will do well.
BTW, this argues against a newbie finishing the degree quickly as you should be writing software for fun, and participating in some group efforts as you go.
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davewill Wrote:I have to disagree. I don't think ANY degree program by itself can prepare you for a successful career. IMHO, developers are born, not made. Taking MOOCs gives you precisely what you put into them. If you have the aptitude and enthusiasm to experiment and push yourself to go beyond the minimum, you will do well.
BTW, this argues against a newbie finishing the degree quickly as you should be writing software for fun, and participating in some group efforts as you go.
I don't think we disagree except maybe with the usefulness of intro programming MOOCs.
If all you do is follow the degree program at TESU and take MOOCs without personal side projects, you will be the rare unemployed CS grad. I've found the intro programming MOOCs to be a joke including cs50 from Harvard and MIT 6.001. You have to do more than bag the degree and take a few MOOCs to be a developer. That's also why there are good developers with either no degree or irrelevant degrees in the field. But nowadays I can't touch the folks since HR won't accept them anymore without the degree. There is some politics behind refusing non degrees folks but I'll save that for another time.
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TrailRunr Wrote:I don't think we disagree except maybe with the usefulness of intro programming MOOCs.
If all you do is follow the degree program at TESU and take MOOCs without personal side projects, you will be the rare unemployed CS grad. I've found the intro programming MOOCs to be a joke including cs50 from Harvard and MIT 6.001. You have to do more than bag the degree and take a few MOOCs to be a developer. That's also why there are good developers with either no degree or irrelevant degrees in the field. But nowadays I can't touch the folks since HR won't accept them anymore without the degree. There is some politics behind refusing non degrees folks but I'll save that for another time.
I completely agree with you all.. Although I'm looking to have the degree in order to get my foot in the door (HR) and for personal reasons, I'm also making the best out of it with creating projects on my own, and coding as much as I can. It's more than just graduating sooner than later although I honestly don't want to spend 4 full years in school, I'm looking to make the best out of the degree in and out of TESU.
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