ENEB New Master Thread

[Imbanewbie]

Receiving a transcript from Unimarconi, it sounds a bit strange to me. On the ENEB website, it has image official diploma from Università degli Studi Guglielmo Marconi (Unimarconi), and that they will process the actual diploma. It should have both diploma and transcript. Have you reached out to ENEB or Unimarconi to confirm? Did they tell you that they will only issue a transcript, or are they supposed to send both the diploma and the transcript?@PearsonOTHMQualifi7654

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Receiving a transcript from Unimarconi, it sounds a bit strange to me. On the ENEB website, it has image official diploma from Università degli Studi Guglielmo Marconi (Unimarconi), and that they will process the actual diploma. It should have both diploma and transcript. Have you reached out to ENEB or Unimarconi to confirm? Did they tell you that they will only issue a transcript, or are they supposed to send both the diploma and the transcript?@PearsonOTHMQualifi7654

I think there's been a misunderstanding. I didn't only receive a transcript. I purchased the complete UniMarconi documentation package recently for $640, which included the official diploma, official transcript, certified translation, and apostille. There was a less expensive option to receive the Diploma only, for $290 (No transcript).

When I said there doesn't seem to be a "diploma supplement", I was referring to a European Diploma Supplement which @peter-newman asked for - which is another way to describe a document, to me looks just like a "Transcript". He asked for Transcript examples, and also Diploma Supplement examples.  For example, I have a Degree from the UK with a "European Diploma Supplement", which is really a transcript that shows the modules, grades, and credits earned. I don't have a "transcript" for that program, but I have a Diploma and a Diploma Supplement. Some institutions call this document a Transcript, others call it a Diploma Supplement, and some in Spain call it an Academic Certificate.

I was explaining to @peter-newman that if his German university requires a description of the modules with ECTS and official documentation by the issuing university that lists the number of CFUs/ECTS, then because the official Unimarconi transcripts name ENEB as the teaching institution, with Unimarconi stating it explicitly recognizes the credits from the teaching institution, and Unimarconi assigns ECTS for each module, this is pretty cohesive, given that there is an accompanying ENEB syllabus that explictly names Unimarconi as the university awarding the degree. I was simply suggesting that these would be quite explanatory and helpful. I didn't mean to imply that there's only a transcript and a syllabus. 

Hopefully that clears up the confusion.

Sounds like a very expensive new set of papers, attesting nothing new than the papers before... and especially not giving you any new knowldege. Am I right or do I get this wrong? @PearsonOTHMQualifi7654

I can understand why it might look that way from the outside, but that wasn't my experience at all.

Yes, the documentation package was expensive. However, part of that cost was for the official diploma package, transcript, certified translation, and apostille. Without selecting the full package, a transcript would not have been issued.

More importantly, this was not simply a reprint of work I had already completed.
Although I had previously completed ENEB programs, only 6 of the 9 modules in my chosen Unimarconi Master matched prior coursework. 
The remaining 3 modules were completely new.

In addition, I completed:

• nine new module papers (I voluntarily declined all six available exemptions and redid every module from scratch so they show individual grades and not just "pass or transfer/convalidated, because my prior ENEB programs were completed via Final Exams)
  
• a Master's Final Project of approximately 40 pages, and
  
• a 135-question comprehensive final examination.
  

Overall, I completed substantially more work for this program than I ever did in my previous ENEB studies.
Beyond the academic workload, the qualification itself occupies a different place academically. A Master Universitario di Primo Livello is an officially recognized Italian university qualification authorized by the Italian Ministry of Universities and Research and aligned with EQF Level 7. That is a different type of credential from a Spanish título propio, regardless of whether some coursework overlaps.

None of this diminishes titulo propios. I have completed several of them myself, am doing more of them, and value them. They are excellent programs for professional development. 

At the same time, I don't think it's accurate to suggest that an officially recognized Italian university master's is merely "the same papers with a new cover."
And for students entering the ENEB to Unimarconi pathway directly, without previous ENEB studies, every module is new from the beginning, and the Master's Final Project and a 135 question final exam are additional components that the corresponding propio versions from ENEB/Ui1 do not have. The additional requirements are consistent with the expectations of an official Italian Master Universitario di Primo Livello, which is recognized by the Italian Ministry of Universities and Research (MUR).

[Maltus]

Ah so you were talking about the Diploma Supplemenet which European schools have to give out since each EU-Member has slightly different rules and that Supplement explains, what standards were used. Thank you for clearing that up. My first Degree is so old - there were no Dipolma Supplements at that time and I needed to send in all my (physical) evidence of studies ("Studienbuch" - literally studybook, where the professors signed down my exams and if I passed and the grade given - no official record of any exam might exist at my school from that time) :-).
Also thank you for sharing your experience with Uni Marconi. Sounds good so far, but 640 USD still is stiff for paperwork that should be included in your tuition fees. Charging so much extra for a Diploma Supplement doesn't sound right...

[Imbanewbie]

Thank you for sharing and clarifying.. @PearsonOTHMQualifi7654

[artem]

A diploma supplement may be combined with the academic transcript or issued as a separate document. Its main purpose is not simply to list courses and grades. It provides additional information about the study program, admission requirements, the qualification awarded, the grading system, the level of the degree, and the national education system.

The diploma supplement is designed to make a qualification easier to understand and recognize in another country. It helps foreign universities, credential evaluation agencies, employers, and professional organizations correctly interpret the diploma and compare it with qualifications from other education systems.
I have several European degrees, and each of them was issued with a diploma supplement. For example, the supplement to my German degree is six pages long. It describes the admission requirements, grading scale, study program, German higher education system, qualification level, and even statistical information about the average grades of students from previous years.

Therefore, a diploma supplement is much more than a transcript. A transcript mainly shows the subjects, credits, and grades, while the diploma supplement explains the full academic context of the qualification.

This is essentially how the purpose of the diploma supplement is described in one of my own diploma documents.

This Diploma Supplement model was developed by the European Commission, Council of Europe and UNESCO/CEPES. The purpose of the
supplement is to provide sufficient independent data to improve the international transparency' and fair academic and professional recognition of
qualifications (diplomas, degrees, certificates etc.). It is designed to provide a description of the nature, level, context, content and status of the
studies that were pursued and successfully completed by the individual named on the original qualification to which this supplement is appended.
It should be free from any value judgements, equivalence statements or suggestions about recognition. Information in all eight sections should be
provided. Where information is not provided, an explanation should give the reason why.

[eLearner]

Does IU1 accept student from eneb for master program with the option of transferring some credits???

I believe you meant UI1 (Isabel). If so, that's actually a great question. I would love to see a real world case on this.

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Does IU1 accept student from eneb for master program with the option of transferring some credits???

I believe you meant UI1 (Isabel). If so, that's actually a great question. I would love to see a real world case on this.

The Universidad Isabel I website does say it accepts credits from Titulo Propio degrees and professional experience. They have an evaluation process described on the site, however it appears, at least for the Nutrition Master's degree, the max ECTS is 9. For other programs, it might be different. All of the website and programs are in Spanish it seems

@Maltus & @Artem - thank you for the detailed explanation on the European Diploma Supplement!

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[net007]

Hey everyone! Quick question for those who already graduated from ENEB (Double or Triple Master/Global MBA).
​I’m getting completely contradictory answers from the WhatsApp support. The support agent claims that a Double or Triple Master only comes as a single diploma where everything is listed in one document, but I've seen plenty of LinkedIn and unboxing photos where graduates received separate physical diplomas for each master's program plus the university certificates.
​Can anyone who recently completed a Double Master or Global MBA confirm what you actually received in your physical package? Did you get separate diplomas or just one combined paper? Thanks!

[PearsonOTHMQualifi7654]

Hey everyone! Quick question for those who already graduated from ENEB (Double or Triple Master/Global MBA).
I’m getting completely contradictory answers from the WhatsApp support. The support agent claims that a Double or Triple Master only comes as a single diploma where everything is listed in one document, but I've seen plenty of LinkedIn and unboxing photos where graduates received separate physical diplomas for each master's program plus the university certificates.
Can anyone who recently completed a Double Master or Global MBA confirm what you actually received in your physical package? Did you get separate diplomas or just one combined paper? Thanks!

I did a Double (MBA + Master) - this was 72 ECTS and a single program, it could not be separated into 2 separate awards at 60 ECTS each. 
In the past I am aware ENEB used to provide 2 separate diplomas, but not any longer. I would not have done a double had I known that upfront - would have preferred to do them separately.