Degree Plan Assistance/Feedback

[Jennbean1]

Hi all - I am so thankful for this community. This forum has been invaluable and I started my ACE classes in March of this year. I am at the point where (I think!) I have satisfied all GEC requirements for UMPI and am getting into electives and upper level/program specific classes. I have used the template to post details of what I have completed and what I planned to complete and have a few questions. If I have left any key details out please let me know. Thank you so much for your feedback and assistance!

Location: Maryland, USA
Age: Old af
Seeking BABA with Concentration in Marketing from UMPI
 
Community College Total Credits (1997): 9
ENG 101 English Composition, A, 3 credits
ART 103 Design I, A, 3 credits
PHOT Photography I, B, 3 credits
 
 
Current ACE/CLEP Credits (2023):
 
Straighter Line Credits: 3
Course                                                  What I think it will transfer as (based on wiki)
ENG 121 College Composition II               ENG 121 College Composition II
 
Sophia Credits: 59
Course                                                   What I think it will transfer as (based on wiki)
BUSI 1025 Business Communication (3)     PCJ 215 Business Communication
PHIL 1002 Intro to Ethics (3)                    PHI 152 Introduction to Ethics
SOCI 1010 Intro to Sociology (3)               SOC 100 Introduction to Sociology
ArtHist 1001 Art History I (3)                    Art 211 Art History 1
STAT 1001 Introduction to Statistics (3)     MAT 101 Basic Statistics
CA 1001 College Algebra (3)                     MAT 117 College Algebra
ENVS 1001 Environmental Science (3)       ENV 110 Intro to Environmental Science
HUMBIO 1001 Human Biology (3)             Not sure?
SCIE 1021 Human Biology LAB (1)            Not sure?
PHIL Ancient Greek Philosophers (3)         Not sure?
HIST 1002 US History II (3)                     HTY United States History
SPAN 1001 Spanish I (3)                         SPA 101 Elementary Spanish
REL 1001 Apprch to Studying Religions (3)     Not sure?
COMM 1010: Workplace Communications (3)  BUS 210 Organizational Communication
ECON 1001 Macroeconomics (3)               ECO 207 Macro & Micro Economics
ECON 1002 Microeconomics (3)                ECO 207 Macro & Micro Economics
BUS 1001 Intro to Business (3)                 BUS 101 Introduction to Business
BUSI 1010 Financial Accounting (3)           BUS 150 Intro to Financial Accounting
PM 1001 Project Management (3)             BUS 141 Intro Project Mgmt / MS Projects
FIN 1001 Principles of Finance (3)            Not sure?
 
Currently working on: (3)
PSYC 1010 Intro to Psychology – Sophia (LL elective?)     
 
Planned: (12)
Sophia – Business Law
Sophia – Conflict Resolution
Sophia – Visual Communications
Sophia – NEW COURSE Critical Thinking (does this satisfy “Creative Decision Making" transfer for GEC?)
 
 
Questions:
1.      Are the following better to take through Study.com or UMPI?
        a.      BUS 303 management Information Systems (BUS 244: Management Information Systems at UMPI)
        b.      BUS Advanced Business Ethics (BUS 353: Legal & Ethical Environment of Business at UMPI)
        c.      BUS 309 Digital Marketing & Advertising (BUS 330 Marketing Management at UMPI)        
2.      Managerial Accounting – better to take through Straighter Line, Study.com, or UMPI?
3.      Where is the best place to take MAT 140 Mathematics for Business?       
4.      I see American Government is now listed on InstantCert again – is this the way to go?
5.      Any other classes I am overlooking for maximum source of transferrable credits?


Thank you so much I am super stoked to have gotten this far in 2 months! 
Best,
Jenn

[rachel83az]

2. Either SDC or UMPI. SL will probably cost more and might take more time.
3. UMPI. I don't think this is a class that has transfer equivalents elsewhere. IIRC, you can get it waived if you transfer in Calculus, but MAT140 is way easier than Calculus.
4. No; where do you see this? This isn't an option on the InstantCert site. Either take it at Sophia, when it becomes available, or through UMPI. UMPI may be easier.

[bjcheung77]

You need to take 30 credits at UMPI, it really doesn't matter which courses you can take or transfer in, you're just trying to maximize your transfer the most resourceful way. The best way to see that is for you to create a spreadsheet of the requirements and what you want to take to transfer into the degree, post it to your google or one drive and link us, make the linked file viewable but not editable. We can then comment on recommended courses, such as the ones on the WIKI: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

[dfrecore]

[b]*ONE OF THESE SHOULD COVER AREA 2D, SO YOU WON'T NEED TO TAKE CRITICAL THINKING
*[/b]ART 103 Design I, A, 3 credits
*PHOT Photography I, B, 3 credits
 Sophia – NEW COURSE Critical Thinking (does this satisfy “Creative Decision Making" transfer for GEC?) - DON'T NEED

THIS COVERS GEC AREA 2A 
PSYC 1010 Intro to Psychology     

THIS COVERS YOUR BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE REQUIREMENT, AND YOUR LAB REQUIREMENT
HUMBIO 1001 Human Biology (3)            
SCIE 1021 Human Biology LAB (1)        

THESE ARE ELECTIVES - THESE ARE ALL COURSES THAT DON'T COVER A GEC REQUIREMENT, AND AREN'T PART OF THE MAJOR
PHIL Ancient Greek Philosophers (3)         
REL 1001 Apprch to Studying Religions (3)
PM 1001 Project Management (3)
Sophia – Business Law- DON'T NEED

Sophia – Conflict Resolution- DON'T NEED
Sophia – Visual Communications- DON'T NEED

 
FIN 1001 Principles of Finance (3) - I DON'T THINK THIS COVERS BUS325: FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, SO IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S AN ELECTIVE

Questions:
1.      Are the following better to take through Study.com or UMPI?
        a.      BUS 303 management Information Systems (BUS 244: Management Information Systems at UMPI)
        b.      BUS Advanced Business Ethics (BUS 353: Legal & Ethical Environment of Business at UMPI)
        c.      BUS 309 Digital Marketing & Advertising (BUS 330 Marketing Management at UMPI)        
2.      Managerial Accounting – better to take through Straighter Line, Study.com, or UMPI?
3.      Where is the best place to take MAT 140 Mathematics for Business?       
4.      I see American Government is now listed on InstantCert again – is this the way to go?
5.      Any other classes I am overlooking for maximum source of transferrable credits?

You also need to take American Government if it's available through Sophia, or take it at SDC if you opt to take other courses there.

The main thing I would think about would be this concentration - it's impossible to get via alt-credit, so you're going to end up taking a lot more courses through UMPI. From what I understand, you have 6 courses from the core, and then 7 courses from the concentration that must be done at UMPI.  I don't think (but I could be wrong) that it's common to take 13 courses in 2 terms at UMPI, which means you're looking at 3 terms to get this done.  If you're fine with that, then by all means, do that.

But, if you opt to not take the remaining available courses at UMPI (another 3 courses on top of the 13), then you might even have to do 4 terms.  So in this instance, I'm signing up for a month of SDC and taking ACC 301: Applied Managerial Accounting, BUS 303: Management Information Systems, and BUS 309: Digital Marketing & Advertising - and probably American Government as well.  That $340 would save you a $1400 term, most likely.

InstantCert is not offering American Government or any other courses any longer.

[PrettyFlyforaChiGuy]

3. The transfer equivalency database shows that SDC's BUSINESS 110 has come in as MAT 140, but there's no placement test to accelerate it.

[Jennbean1]

2. Either SDC or UMPI. SL will probably cost more and might take more time.
3. UMPI. I don't think this is a class that has transfer equivalents elsewhere. IIRC, you can get it waived if you transfer in Calculus, but MAT140 is way easier than Calculus.
4. No; where do you see this? This isn't an option on the InstantCert site. Either take it at Sophia, when it becomes available, or through UMPI. UMPI may be easier.

Thanks Rachel!

So when I go to InstantCert site is includes American Government in the drop down as an option. I am guessing I misunderstood that they offer this when maybe it's just the flashcards? Hmmm. 

Have a great night!

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You need to take 30 credits at UMPI, it really doesn't matter which courses you can take or transfer in, you're just trying to maximize your transfer the most resourceful way.  The best way to see that is for you to create a spreadsheet of the requirements and what you want to take to transfer into the degree, post it to your google or one drive and link us, make the linked file viewable but not editable.  We can then comment on recommended courses, such as the ones on the WIKI: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

I have a very detailed spreadsheet with all equivalencies from the wiki but copied it into the suggested template as per the thread suggestion. lol. No worries. I think I have parsed together from the other replies where my gaps are and next steps with ACE courses. Thank you for your assistance!

Have a great night.

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[b]*ONE OF THESE SHOULD COVER AREA 2D, SO YOU WON'T NEED TO TAKE CRITICAL THINKING
*[/b]ART 103 Design I, A, 3 credits
*PHOT Photography I, B, 3 credits
 Sophia – NEW COURSE Critical Thinking (does this satisfy “Creative Decision Making" transfer for GEC?) - DON'T NEED

THIS COVERS GEC AREA 2A 
PSYC 1010 Intro to Psychology     

THIS COVERS YOUR BIOLOGICAL SCIENCE REQUIREMENT, AND YOUR LAB REQUIREMENT
HUMBIO 1001 Human Biology (3)            
SCIE 1021 Human Biology LAB (1)        

THESE ARE ELECTIVES - THESE ARE ALL COURSES THAT DON'T COVER A GEC REQUIREMENT, AND AREN'T PART OF THE MAJOR
PHIL Ancient Greek Philosophers (3)         
REL 1001 Apprch to Studying Religions (3)
PM 1001 Project Management (3)
Sophia – Business Law- DON'T NEED

Sophia – Conflict Resolution- DON'T NEED
Sophia – Visual Communications- DON'T NEED

 
FIN 1001 Principles of Finance (3) - I DON'T THINK THIS COVERS BUS325: FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, SO IF IT DOESN'T, IT'S AN ELECTIVE

Questions:
1.      Are the following better to take through Study.com or UMPI?
        a.      BUS 303 management Information Systems (BUS 244: Management Information Systems at UMPI)
        b.      BUS Advanced Business Ethics (BUS 353: Legal & Ethical Environment of Business at UMPI)
        c.      BUS 309 Digital Marketing & Advertising (BUS 330 Marketing Management at UMPI)        
2.      Managerial Accounting – better to take through Straighter Line, Study.com, or UMPI?
3.      Where is the best place to take MAT 140 Mathematics for Business?       
4.      I see American Government is now listed on InstantCert again – is this the way to go?
5.      Any other classes I am overlooking for maximum source of transferrable credits?

You also need to take American Government if it's available through Sophia, or take it at SDC if you opt to take other courses there.

The main thing I would think about would be this concentration - it's impossible to get via alt-credit, so you're going to end up taking a lot more courses through UMPI. From what I understand, you have 6 courses from the core, and then 7 courses from the concentration that must be done at UMPI.  I don't think (but I could be wrong) that it's common to take 13 courses in 2 terms at UMPI, which means you're looking at 3 terms to get this done.  If you're fine with that, then by all means, do that.

But, if you opt to not take the remaining available courses at UMPI (another 3 courses on top of the 13), then you might even have to do 4 terms.  So in this instance, I'm signing up for a month of SDC and taking ACC 301: Applied Managerial Accounting, BUS 303: Management Information Systems, and BUS 309: Digital Marketing & Advertising - and probably American Government as well.  That $340 would save you a $1400 term, most likely.

InstantCert is not offering American Government or any other courses any longer.

Thank you for the effort and time to reply to my questions sincerely appreciate it.  

According to transfer database and wiki:
Ancient Greek Philosophers qualifies for GEC credit for areas: 2A, 2B, 4C, 5D
Approaches to Studying Religion qualifies for GEC credit for areas: 2A, 2B, 4C, 5D

The remaining classes I plan to take at UMPI are: 
MAT 140 Mathematics for Business
BUS 200 Intermediate Business Computing
BUS 219 Product Development
BUS 261 Marketing Research & Alanysis
BUS 325 Financial Management
BUS 440 Business Analytics
BUS 307 Fundamentals of Consumer Behavior
BUS 469 Strategic Professional Management
BUS 334 Advertising, Public Relations
BUS 469 Strategic Professional Management
BUS 337 Integrated Marketing Communications
BUS 430 Global Marketing
BUS 433 E-Commerce and Social Media Marketing

Other than the GEC credits I think we are aligned on maxing out alt credits that tranfser to program. THANK YOU! Have a great evening.

[dfrecore]

2. Either SDC or UMPI. SL will probably cost more and might take more time.
3. UMPI. I don't think this is a class that has transfer equivalents elsewhere. IIRC, you can get it waived if you transfer in Calculus, but MAT140 is way easier than Calculus.
4. No; where do you see this? This isn't an option on the InstantCert site. Either take it at Sophia, when it becomes available, or through UMPI. UMPI may be easier.

Thanks Rachel!

So when I go to InstantCert site is includes American Government in the drop down as an option. I am guessing I misunderstood that they offer this when maybe it's just the flashcards? Hmmm. 

Have a great night!

---

You need to take 30 credits at UMPI, it really doesn't matter which courses you can take or transfer in, you're just trying to maximize your transfer the most resourceful way.  The best way to see that is for you to create a spreadsheet of the requirements and what you want to take to transfer into the degree, post it to your google or one drive and link us, make the linked file viewable but not editable.  We can then comment on recommended courses, such as the ones on the WIKI: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:UMPI

I have a very detailed spreadsheet with all equivalencies from the wiki but copied it into the suggested template as per the thread suggestion. lol. No worries. I think I have parsed together from the other replies where my gaps are and next steps with ACE courses. Thank you for your assistance!

Have a great night.

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Thank you for the effort and time to reply to my questions sincerely appreciate it.  

According to transfer database and wiki:
Ancient Greek Philosophers qualifies for GEC credit for areas: 2A, 2B, 4C, 5D
Approaches to Studying Religion qualifies for GEC credit for areas: 2A, 2B, 4C, 5D

Yes, except that those areas are all covered by other courses already.  But since everything is covered, it doesn't matter which courses cover any particular area.

[PrettyFlyforaChiGuy]

The remaining classes I plan to take at UMPI are: 
MAT 140 Mathematics for Business
BUS 200 Intermediate Business Computing
BUS 219 Product Development
BUS 261 Marketing Research & Alanysis
BUS 325 Financial Management
BUS 440 Business Analytics
BUS 307 Fundamentals of Consumer Behavior
BUS 469 Strategic Professional Management
BUS 334 Advertising, Public Relations
BUS 469 Strategic Professional Management
BUS 337 Integrated Marketing Communications
BUS 430 Global Marketing
BUS 433 E-Commerce and Social Media Marketing

Other than the GEC credits I think we are aligned on maxing out alt credits that tranfser to program. THANK YOU! Have a great evening.

I mentioned before that MAT 140 has come in for SDC's BUSINESS 110, but BUSINESS 309 has also transferred in for BUS 334. BUSINESS 309 is recommended for ACE credit until August 31, 2023. Assuming these are still accepted at UMPI for what they have been in the past, this would bring you down to 11 UMPI courses.

[bjcheung77]

@PrettyFlyforaChiGuy - Good call, OP, I would try and see if you can get closer to that 10 course limit, being at 11 is amazing... Just in case, you may be able to finish this in two sessions instead of cramming it into one or having a need of extending to three sessions with 13 courses to take.