Careerea 's COLLÈGE DE PARIS MBA

[Johann]

It worked out well. Michael was awarded 35 upper-division credits at TESU. TESU is expensive, even more for out-of-state students, so factoring in the incredibly low cost of the credits he transferred in, he made out like a bandit. He saved about $19,000!

Congratulations to Michael. The ENEB degree more than suited his purpose. That's a super--score! My apologies for not having the details, when I wrote my post. Thanks, eLearner, for filling me in.  

My point is - and I maintain it - that ENEB degrees do not generally translate to equivalent of RA Master's in US foreign credential evaluations - nor do other propios, generally. If your plan is to get credit for it in another way - such as Michael's plan -- yes, you may very well get what you wanted - or not. Depending on where you go (and other factors), you could get an equivalent of a Grad Certificate, a lower, or (gasp!) unaccredited degree or, in Michael's case, where he went directly to TESU, credits from a course-by-course evaluation. Good move, Michael. In most cases, with a foreign credential evaluator, you never really know exactly  what you'll get  - until they hand it to you. 

Propios, Evaluators and G*d Himself all work in mysterious ways. Again, a shout-out for Michael and his spectacular success, and my thanks to you for informing me.

[soulblader]

There is no pricing on their pages, how do you know it's "cheap". 

Not in the most conspicuous of places, but it's here:

https://www.careerera.com/general-manage...aris/batch

4499 for their mba

[sarahmac]

Le Collège de Paris is a consortium. Sort of like the University of London, but not all consortium members are university colleges. Some are private business schools, some are language schools.

So the important part is which consortium member actually issues the degree (or "underwrites" it). In this case, Ascencia Business School.

The question is then whether Ascencia Business School is useful internationally. It is not listed in WES Qualification Equiv tool, nor can I find anything via NARIC. So my conclusion would be no. They offer many professional vocational courses at level 7 that are registered with the correct French department for this (kind of like UK Level 7 diplomas for those familiar), and you may get some utility out of those inside of France. But for anyone outside of France.. probably better to look elsewhere.

[eLearner]

Le Collège de Paris is a consortium. Sort of like the University of London, but not all consortium members are university colleges. Some are private business schools, some are language schools.

So the important part is which consortium member actually issues the degree (or "underwrites" it). In this case, Ascencia Business School.

The question is then whether Ascencia Business School is useful internationally. It is not listed in WES Qualification Equiv tool, nor can I find anything via NARIC. So my conclusion would be no. They offer many professional vocational courses at level 7 that are registered with the correct French department for this (kind of like UK Level 7 diplomas for those familiar), and you may get some utility out of those inside of France. But for anyone outside of France.. probably better to look elsewhere.

To be fair, using WES as a barometer is going to disqualify a lot of schools that other foreign credential evaluators openly accept. WES is the most powerful but has a notorious reputation and with plenty of good reason.

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There is no pricing on their pages, how do you know it's "cheap". 

Not in the most conspicuous of places, but it's here:

https://www.careerera.com/general-manage...aris/batch

4499 for their mba

Not far off from WGU and the WGU MBA isn't positioned in any murky associations or provokes any questions about its accreditation status. So considering that, 4499 for Careera's program is too much, at least until more information comes in to solidify its legitimacy.

[sarahmac]

Le Collège de Paris is a consortium. Sort of like the University of London, but not all consortium members are university colleges. Some are private business schools, some are language schools.

So the important part is which consortium member actually issues the degree (or "underwrites" it). In this case, Ascencia Business School.

The question is then whether Ascencia Business School is useful internationally. It is not listed in WES Qualification Equiv tool, nor can I find anything via NARIC. So my conclusion would be no. They offer many professional vocational courses at level 7 that are registered with the correct French department for this (kind of like UK Level 7 diplomas for those familiar), and you may get some utility out of those inside of France. But for anyone outside of France.. probably better to look elsewhere.

To be fair, using WES as a barometer is going to disqualify a lot of schools that other foreign credential evaluators openly accept. WES is the most powerful but has a notorious reputation and with plenty of good reason.

True, but the bar here was not a successful WES evaluation. That tool will tell you for example if your qualification is downgraded to a lower level/same level but unaccredited/so on and so forth.

The important part is that Ascencia Business School is not listed at all. Neither there, nor NARIC, nor on the French listing for academic institutions. I think ABS is also technically registered in the UAE (in a shopping mall aha ^^'), and so I tested using that as the country location too.

So it seems although it nicely offers professional qualifications (levels 5-7) that can be used in France and are appropriately registered with the French professional training authority, the MBA they offer also falls into this professional category (i.e. not academic). It is not a degree in the sense that people here would need it to be.

Given the price is more than e.g. HAU, seems like there are better options out there for use in the US.

[ss20ts]

It worked out well. Michael was awarded 35 upper-division credits at TESU. TESU is expensive, even more for out-of-state students, so factoring in the incredibly low cost of the credits he transferred in, he made out like a bandit. He saved about $19,000!

In reality, few people from here take many credits at TESU so it's not really a $19,000 savings.

[eLearner]

It worked out well. Michael was awarded 35 upper-division credits at TESU. TESU is expensive, even more for out-of-state students, so factoring in the incredibly low cost of the credits he transferred in, he made out like a bandit. He saved about $19,000!

In reality, few people from here take many credits at TESU so it's not really a $19,000 savings.

Depends. Some people don't like testing out (I would fit that description if I didn't already have degrees), and if they don't have much or any credit to transfer they would be taking a lot of credits.

[ss20ts]

It worked out well. Michael was awarded 35 upper-division credits at TESU. TESU is expensive, even more for out-of-state students, so factoring in the incredibly low cost of the credits he transferred in, he made out like a bandit. He saved about $19,000!

In reality, few people from here take many credits at TESU so it's not really a $19,000 savings.

Depends. Some people don't like testing out (I would fit that description if I didn't already have degrees), and if they don't have much or any credit to transfer they would be taking a lot of credits.

I have not seen anyone on this forum take 35 credits at TESU. The RA requirement is pretty new and there's far less expensive ways to get RA credit than taking classes at TESU.

[eLearner]

I have not seen anyone on this forum take 35 credits at TESU. The RA requirement is pretty new and there's far less expensive ways to get RA credit than taking classes at TESU.

I'm sure you're right. It's just that the field is much bigger than what we see on this forum that attracts mostly like-minded people in terms of higher education, that's more what I'm getting at.

[soulblader]

Le Collège de Paris is a consortium. Sort of like the University of London, but not all consortium members are university colleges. Some are private business schools, some are language schools.

So the important part is which consortium member actually issues the degree (or "underwrites" it). In this case, Ascencia Business School.

The question is then whether Ascencia Business School is useful internationally. It is not listed in WES Qualification Equiv tool, nor can I find anything via NARIC. So my conclusion would be no. They offer many professional vocational courses at level 7 that are registered with the correct French department for this (kind of like UK Level 7 diplomas for those familiar), and you may get some utility out of those inside of France. But for anyone outside of France.. probably better to look elsewhere.

To be fair, using WES as a barometer is going to disqualify a lot of schools that other foreign credential evaluators openly accept. WES is the most powerful but has a notorious reputation and with plenty of good reason.

True, but the bar here was not a successful WES evaluation. That tool will tell you for example if your qualification is downgraded to a lower level/same level but unaccredited/so on and so forth.

The important part is that Ascencia Business School is not listed at all. Neither there, nor NARIC, nor on the French listing for academic institutions. I think ABS is also technically registered in the UAE (in a shopping mall aha ^^'), and so I tested using that as the country location too.

So it seems although it nicely offers professional qualifications (levels 5-7) that can be used in France and are appropriately registered with the French professional training authority, the MBA they offer also falls into this professional category (i.e. not academic). It is not a degree in the sense that people here would need it to be.

Given the price is more than e.g. HAU, seems like there are better options out there for use in the US.

seem like even eneb seem better