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CIP Codes Warning
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(05-16-2024, 04:59 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(05-16-2024, 04:40 AM)Ares Wrote:
(05-15-2024, 01:38 PM)sanantone Wrote: I have seven college degrees, including a doctorate. I think the reading comprehension issues are on your end. The subject was not changed.

That makes your reading comprehension problems even more embarrassing. You are correct on one thing, I am certainly bad at reading poorly formatted signatures like yours. You changed the subject away from your meaningless anecdotes.

(05-15-2024, 01:38 PM)sanantone Wrote: Looking at thousands of job ads over the period of many years is called sampling. It doesn't seem like too many here have looked at many USAJob announcements, so they're running with assumptions and what they want to believe. If they had looked at the job ads, they would be aware of OPM and the 24-credit requirement. Because I have looked at thousands of job ads, I was aware of something that you and others were not. You didn't even know where to go to find the answer. I found it for you. You're welcome.

ROFLMAO, you are not "sampling" job ads give me a break. USAJobs does not include the job requirements for every federal job nor does it include the internal procedures used by the hiring managers for any of those jobs.

(05-15-2024, 01:38 PM)sanantone Wrote: I don't know why anecdotes bother you so much when they were supported by an official government policy. You're arguing just to argue and because you're embarrassed.

No I am pointing out that your anecdotes are not facts. I suspect you are embarrassed that TESU does such a shoddy job with their CIP codes, regardless I think this thread is valuable for this reason alone.

I noticed you failed to quote anything I stated.

You're bad at reading sarcasm. You have black and white thinking, and you take things too literally. There are anecdotes all throughout this forum. It must be giving you anxiety.

Do you know what the definition of a fact is? It's either true or not true; it's either opinion or fact. An anecdote can be a fact because it actually happened. You're confusing facts with proof of generalizability. It has to be determined whether an anecdote can be generalized to other situations or the rest of the population. Since my anecdotes, which were facts for my situations, align with OPM policy, then it has been determined that my experiences can be generalized to other job announcements. 

OPM has the requirements for every job series. How about you go look at the website instead of looking crazy arguing about anecdotes that are supported by OPM. When you attend lectures and a professor gives you an anecdote to illustrate how a concept plays out, do you argue with that person? Insanity. Now, I'm wondering if you've even sat in a classroom to hear a lecture because every teacher uses anecdotes to further understanding of a fact or concept. 

I don't even know what to say to your excuse for not knowing what an MS degree is and your inability to count. I also did not say that all of my degrees were listed in my signature. Six of the seven are listed. You're so insecure about your low level of intelligence, you felt the need to defend yourself for not getting my degree count right. It was a non-issue. You're hilarious. 

Why would I be embarrassed about TESU's CIP code situation? I don't work there. What a nonsensical assumption. Where did you earn your degrees, if you have any? They should be embarrassed for awarding them to you.

Hiring managers don't do the initial sifting. HR specialists determine eligibility and rankings. Then, they forward the applications to hiring managers. It's called a referral. You don't have a single clue what you're talking about. Federal government hiring is highly regulated. Agencies have to ask for permission to deviate from hiring rules. When they get permission, it has to be noted on the job announcement.

For the low IQ individual who still doesn't understand that OPM regulates federal hiring.

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/our-work/

I invented sarcasm.

The definition of a fact does not include your unsubstantiated anecdotes.

I don't know how much more clear I need to be that I nor anyone serious about this topic does not care about your anecdotes on it.

You need to learn how to make a properly formatted signature. If you want help you can always ask me. I promise I will not charge you a fee.

I am a hiring manager and am well aware of the uselessness of HR departments. If I am interested in learning about Federal Government hiring I will be sure to ask someone who knows that they are talking about.
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(05-16-2024, 09:11 PM)Ares Wrote:
(05-16-2024, 04:59 PM)sanantone Wrote:
(05-16-2024, 04:40 AM)Ares Wrote:
(05-15-2024, 01:38 PM)sanantone Wrote: I have seven college degrees, including a doctorate. I think the reading comprehension issues are on your end. The subject was not changed.

That makes your reading comprehension problems even more embarrassing. You are correct on one thing, I am certainly bad at reading poorly formatted signatures like yours. You changed the subject away from your meaningless anecdotes.

(05-15-2024, 01:38 PM)sanantone Wrote: Looking at thousands of job ads over the period of many years is called sampling. It doesn't seem like too many here have looked at many USAJob announcements, so they're running with assumptions and what they want to believe. If they had looked at the job ads, they would be aware of OPM and the 24-credit requirement. Because I have looked at thousands of job ads, I was aware of something that you and others were not. You didn't even know where to go to find the answer. I found it for you. You're welcome.

ROFLMAO, you are not "sampling" job ads give me a break. USAJobs does not include the job requirements for every federal job nor does it include the internal procedures used by the hiring managers for any of those jobs.

(05-15-2024, 01:38 PM)sanantone Wrote: I don't know why anecdotes bother you so much when they were supported by an official government policy. You're arguing just to argue and because you're embarrassed.

No I am pointing out that your anecdotes are not facts. I suspect you are embarrassed that TESU does such a shoddy job with their CIP codes, regardless I think this thread is valuable for this reason alone.

I noticed you failed to quote anything I stated.

You're bad at reading sarcasm. You have black and white thinking, and you take things too literally. There are anecdotes all throughout this forum. It must be giving you anxiety.

Do you know what the definition of a fact is? It's either true or not true; it's either opinion or fact. An anecdote can be a fact because it actually happened. You're confusing facts with proof of generalizability. It has to be determined whether an anecdote can be generalized to other situations or the rest of the population. Since my anecdotes, which were facts for my situations, align with OPM policy, then it has been determined that my experiences can be generalized to other job announcements. 

OPM has the requirements for every job series. How about you go look at the website instead of looking crazy arguing about anecdotes that are supported by OPM. When you attend lectures and a professor gives you an anecdote to illustrate how a concept plays out, do you argue with that person? Insanity. Now, I'm wondering if you've even sat in a classroom to hear a lecture because every teacher uses anecdotes to further understanding of a fact or concept. 

I don't even know what to say to your excuse for not knowing what an MS degree is and your inability to count. I also did not say that all of my degrees were listed in my signature. Six of the seven are listed. You're so insecure about your low level of intelligence, you felt the need to defend yourself for not getting my degree count right. It was a non-issue. You're hilarious. 

Why would I be embarrassed about TESU's CIP code situation? I don't work there. What a nonsensical assumption. Where did you earn your degrees, if you have any? They should be embarrassed for awarding them to you.

Hiring managers don't do the initial sifting. HR specialists determine eligibility and rankings. Then, they forward the applications to hiring managers. It's called a referral. You don't have a single clue what you're talking about. Federal government hiring is highly regulated. Agencies have to ask for permission to deviate from hiring rules. When they get permission, it has to be noted on the job announcement.

For the low IQ individual who still doesn't understand that OPM regulates federal hiring.

https://www.opm.gov/about-us/our-work/

I invented sarcasm.

The definition of a fact does not include your unsubstantiated anecdotes.

I don't know how much more clear I need to be that I nor anyone serious about this topic does not care about your anecdotes on it.

You need to learn how to make a properly formatted signature. If you want help you can always ask me. I promise I will not charge you a fee.

I am a hiring manager and am well aware of the uselessness of HR departments. If I am interested in learning about Federal Government hiring I will be sure to ask someone who knows that they are talking about.

Now, you speak for everyone? Hahaha! I would guess that no one really cares about my signature, except for those with OCD. I made it a decade ago mainly as a reminder of which tests I took, not because I thought others would find it important. 

A fact is something that actually occurred. What you are trying to say but don't know how to articulate is that one personal fact can't be used as evidence for a general fact. It's called generalizability. I recommend a research methods course. 

I can imagine you foaming at the mouth in a classroom because the instructor told an anecdote to go along with something that's in a textbook. The irony here is that you're the one using a strawman argument. Whether you, personally, care about my anecdotes does not matter in this discussion because I was the only person who provided federal government policy for hiring. While you were being weird about anecdotes for days, you did not address what was and was not accurate in the OP. Out of all the things I addressed in the OP, you had a weird obsession with anecdotes of the federal hiring process.

I don't know that you're a hiring manager. That's unsubstantiated. I say that you're a witch. Now, you have to prove me wrong, and you can't use anecdotes.
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