CCs that accepts out of country international students?

[armstrongsubero]

Wild speculation? So what do you call not letting someone do something because they are not from a certain country? When there are no techical grounds for doing so? Why not charge more if grants and what not is the problem? Since 1997 is a LONGGGG time, as for OD its outright.

Based on what I have read on the forums, those courses from Saylor are NOT accepted and programming languages is NOT the same as the intro to programming course. There are entire threds on this:

https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...rogramming

https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...rogramming

I was looking at those other options but they all all start in spring 2019 with some late days. ASU starts in August 2019.

I have no choice but to shell out that $1098, because thus far the only course TESU accepts is from OD which wont accept me because I'm not a citizen of the US. If it were grants or whatever they would do like everyone else and charge more. So of course I dont feel right.
It not like I'm asking for a handout or begging or asking for preferential treatment, I'm willing to pay and all I ask for is an equal opportunity, dont BS me with 'soon' when you know it wont happen. WGU is since 1997!

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BTW Luna only has a page for 'financial aid' their tuition and fess page is a 404, so we already know their motive.

[Merlin]

Wild speculation? So what do you call not letting someone do something because they are not from a certain country? When there are no techical grounds for doing so? Why not charge more if grants and what not is the problem? Since 1997 is a LONGGGG time, as for OD its outright.

I don't work with these folks so this is all speculation on my part based on some understanding of how these things work in other business areas.

But when I mentioned grants or subsidies and the requirements for using them, that doesn't mean they just have to charge a bit more for foreign students. It probably means they cannot use any systems that are paid for using the grant money. If so, they'd need a big injection of money and some re-engineering to create multiple pathways through their system so expenses relating to foreign students wouldn't deplete any funds allocated to US students.

So just charging an extra $100 per student wouldn't be enough. It might be enough once the work is done, but until they get that big cash injection to work on the parallel system, it cannot happen at all.

I'd imagine that WGU would welcome the additional revenue from foreign students but they don't want to jeopardize their funding sources, likewise for OD, though they don't make revenue from students directly. As for taking a long time, it might never happen unless they can find an outside investor or foreign grant to fund the work. For all we know that might take hundreds of thousands of dollars, or more. That could take some time to raise, if it ever happens.

Again I don't think its discrimination, its just business (or politics). US government grant money is often required to be used for the benefit of US citizens. Unless you can find an investor to work with these institutions and provide private funding to expand their programs, it probably isn't going to happen. Especially for places like WGU which is non-profit and likely operates with thin margins, and OD which is free.

This will be my last post on this topic since I don't want to derail this thread. But it is semi-relevant to foreign students.

[armstrongsubero]

@Merlin I understand what you're saying and I have no choice but to accept it.

[mysonx3]

@armstrongubero Have you looked into whether ASU earned admission accepts international students? They have Intro to Programming for $425

[bjcheung77]

Eh, if you really want to get that Intro to Programming course, it's available at Luna. You can also get the Linear Algebra from them as well. The cost of the 6 credits should be showing here: For 6 credits, it's only $228! Wow - https://luna.edu/tuition_matrix/
To find DL courses, change the term to Spring 2019 and choose STEM courses here: https://luna.edu/schedule

Note: Do not take more than 6 credits from them and you will be fine, more than 6 credits and you'll be charged an arm and a leg.
To be on the safe side, email them and find out if International Students get the Out of State tuition. Anyways, see what they can do for you. There's always a solution to something.

[MNomadic]

So what do you call not letting someone do something because they are not from a certain country?

I can think of a hundred POSSIBLE reasons why they are not open to international students currently: business model, regulations, funding, resources, etc. The point is, none of us KNOW. You're welcome to think what you want, but I don't think it's fair to slander businesses/colleges without providing EVIDENCE. So in the future, please refrain from getting bent out of shape any time anyone hints at OD or WGU.

Based on what I have read on the forums...

I've read those threads. They are the non official speculations of people who don't represent TESU. That's why I asked if you inquired with TESU. In the past, I have found them to have reasonable flexibility.

I was looking at those other options but they all all start in spring 2019

Spring of 2019... Also known as next month if I'm not mistaken. Rio Salado in particular had 16 start dates(8 or 16 weeks long)... basically once per week for the duration of the entire semester... many times more flexible than the $1100, 12 week course from TESU which ONLY has monthly start dates. I'm sorry I couldn't provide you with infinity more options to accommodate you. I was trying to be helpful. (Ironically, the 4 significantly cheaper options I linked to for intro to programming.... were from the exact same 4 colleges I linked to in the 2nd post of this thread.)

BTW Luna only has a page for 'financial aid' their tuition and fess page is a 404, so we already know their motive.

One, what on earth are you insinuating? That the apparent shortcomings of their IT department are indicative of something far more sinister?
Two: https://luna.edu/tuition_matrix/

[homeschoolmom1]

Do all of the Big 3 accept students residing abroad?

[bjcheung77]

Do all of the Big3 accept student residing abroad?

Yes, they do. They are the most accommodating of all the schools I've researched so far... These are the recommended test out options, the Big 3. For competency-based degree providers, it's a different story.

[dfrecore]

@Merlin I understand what you're saying and I have no choice but to accept it.

I don't get why you get so bent out of shape about this.  They are not required to do any of this, and they can make their business model anything they want it to be.

CA state schools are required to charge extra for out of state students, and even more for international students.  It's because they're subsidized by our taxes (federal and state), and we've written things into the law so that they don't have any leeway - they can't just give an international student a pass because they feel like it.  There are very specific rules for all of this.

You can get mad if you want, or you can just decide that it is what it is, and work within the system.  Sure, you may have to pay more than a US resident for something (or not have access to it at all), but it is not discrimination.  It's the way the system works, and there may be no way the course provider/school can get around the rules for the money they have access to, which allows them to provide the courses/exams.

No one is out to get you, I promise.

[celerius]

I think most CCs will accept international students. This link has info for international students at NMJC: https://www.nmjc.edu/admission/apply_online/index.aspx

The difficult part is going to be that most schools assume you will be on campus, and therefore assume you will need or have the proper student visa. It will take some work with admissions to make sure you can enroll and take online courses from outside the USA without having a visa.

Thank you davewill for the link.

If you are a US citizen you may be able to bargin with some colleges in your original states. Else you're better off enrolling in one of the Big 3.

Unfortunately I'm not a US citizen otherwise I could just drop by, enroll in a CC as an in state student and take the classes online.

What school were you thinking of transferring too?

I am thinking of computer science at HES.

Clovis Community College, in NM (not CA) is very affordable, not sure about the international students  - http://www.clovis.edu/

Thank you allvia for clovis. I've checked them out as well. Just haven't contacted them yet.

Celerius, where are you from? Do you already have credits from your native country? You may want to have them evaluated by ECE or WES and get yourself a BSBA or a BALS from the Big 3.  Getting an evaluation from ECE/WES is my first recommendation, for example, if you have a 2-year diploma, it may already be sufficient to put you in Junior or Senior year at the Big 3.  

I'm from Singapore and have a 3-year bachelor's degree from Australia from 16 years ago which is not equivalent to a 4-year bachelor's degree in the US. I was thinking that since it's not recognized, I can probably do a 4-year US bachelor's degree online. I also have 2 - 3 classes from a US CC that can probably transfer into the prospective university.

I don't know your situation, but if you're starting from scratch, then NJMC might be your best bet for cheapest/easiest/fastest credits as they have 8 weeks accelerated courses, you can get the freshman/sophomore years completed by going to NJMC.  Good luck, for test-out options, the Big 3 rules, and if you want to try competency-based programs, you can try them also.

As mentioned above, I'm interested in the computer science degree program in HES so I'm hoping to be able to transfer in as many credits as I can and then do the rest with them. I read here that in COSC you can get letter grades from SL. I wonder if that will work for eventual transfer to a university.

NJMC sounds great if they accept international students without the need for visa and me being on campus.

I just realized that even for online classes at CC, some of them would require me attending the online class during US hours which will be a little crazy...