BA Comm or BSBA Marketing - which one is quicker @ TESU?

[collegechick]

I've applied and been accepted at TESU because I heard they have the cheapest/fastest degree programs and most liberal credit transfer policy. TESU is currently reviewing my (88) credits (listed below) that I've completed from three separate regionally accredited schools. (I have an Associates of General Studies and have attempted my BA in the past.)

What's your opinion of the quickest Bachelor's degree to get with the credits I'm transferring? I've selected a BA Communications. However, I read on another forum that a BSBA in Marketing or OP Management might be quicker/easier due to no capstone requirement? What does a capstone require? I consider an easy degree without anymore math requirements, as I've already taken statistics. I'm looking to test out of as many classes and perhaps a PLA portfolio from years of real world work. Thank you for any advice or opinions.


FVT 150: Development of Film Expression - 3 credits
FVT 160: Video Equipment & Tech - 3 credits
FVT 254: Digital Editing - 3 credits
GAT 120: Adobe Photoshop - 3 credits
GAT 106: Adobe Illustrator - 3 credits
PSY 101: Gen Psychology - 3 credits
PSY 102: Gen Psychology II - 3 credits
SPE 115: Speech Comm - 3 credits
SPE 125: Interpersonal Comm - 3 credits
ENG 121: Eng Comp - 3 credits
ENG 122: Eng Comp II - 3 credits
HUM 122: Survey of Humanities II - 3 credits
HUM 123: Survey of Humanities III - 3 credits
ART 111: Art History - 3 credits
CIS 136: Power Point - 4 credits
CIS 125: MS Word - 4 credits
CIS 117: Web Page Essentials - 4 credits
MAT 135: Intro to Statistics - 3 credits
AST 102: Astronomy
AST 103: Lab - 4 credits
GEO 105: World Regional Geography - 3 credits
THE 111: Acting I - 3 credits

Art Institute
MM1360: Inside Multimedia - 3 credits
XD1301: Fund of Design - 3 credits
XD1310: Fund of Drawing - 3 credits
XD2302: Computer Paint - 3 credits
XD3303: Fund of Business - 3 credits

TOTAL: 88 credits

[dfrecore]

"Easiest" is different for everyone - what might be easy for me might not be easy to you, and vice-versa.

Even though I'm getting my degree from TESU, I don't think they have the most liberal credit transfer policy at all. I think COSC or EC might be more liberal with what they accept. That being said, TESU requires fewer UL credits than COSC/EC (18cr vs. 30cr for most degree programs - and only 12cr UL required for the TESU BSBA).

The TESU BSBA requires College Algebra as well as stats, so you would at least have to do that. Also, the BSBA does require a capstone - but you have the option to take it as a TECEP exam rather than a course, unlike the rest of the degree programs.

The main problem you're probably going to have with the TESU BSBA is that I think a lot of the courses you've taken won't transfer well into it. The FVT, GAT, CIS, MM, and XD courses probably won't count as Gen Ed, and there is only space for 6cr of free electives in the BSBA degree. So those courses will all get bumped out.

On the other hand, if you were to apply for the BA in Comm, after you get your eval, you can look at how your credits would fit into other degree programs (like the BA in Liberal Studies, which is by far the most flexible of TESU's degrees). And with the BA in Comm or BALS, there are 27cr of Free Electives, so anything that wouldn't fit into your degree would most likely go to Free Electives, so fewer of your credits would go to waste.

I would also look at the BSPS (BS in Professional Studies). There is a little more leeway in what is considered the Area of Study. It's a good way of getting some business or other courses to count in the AOS without having to get the full BSBA if you want.

[Nixi]

Even though I'm getting my degree from TESU, I don't think they have the most liberal credit transfer policy at all. I think COSC or EC might be more liberal with what they accept.

Interesting. I always thought that TESU had the most liberal transfer credit policy, but never really looked into COSC or EC.

[cookderosa]

I've applied and been accepted at TESU because I heard they have the cheapest/fastest degree programs and most liberal credit transfer policy. TESU is currently reviewing my (88) credits (listed below) that I've completed from three separate regionally accredited schools. (I have an Associates of General Studies and have attempted my BA in the past.)

What's your opinion of the quickest Bachelor's degree to get with the credits I'm transferring? I've selected a BA Communications. However, I read on another forum that a BSBA in Marketing or OP Management might be quicker/easier due to no capstone requirement? What does a capstone require? I consider an easy degree without anymore math requirements, as I've already taken statistics. I'm looking to test out of as many classes and perhaps a PLA portfolio from years of real world work. Thank you for any advice or opinions.


FVT 150: Development of Film Expression - 3 credits
FVT 160: Video Equipment & Tech - 3 credits
FVT 254: Digital Editing - 3 credits
GAT 120: Adobe Photoshop - 3 credits
GAT 106: Adobe Illustrator - 3 credits
[COLOR="#0000FF"]PSY 101: Gen Psychology - 3 credits
PSY 102: Gen Psychology II - 3 credits
SPE 115: Speech Comm - 3 credits[/COLOR]
[COLOR="#0000FF"]SPE 125: Interpersonal Comm - 3 credits
ENG 121: Eng Comp - 3 credits
ENG 122: Eng Comp II - 3 credits
HUM 122: Survey of Humanities II - 3 credits
HUM 123: Survey of Humanities III - 3 credits[/COLOR]
ART 111: Art History - 3 credits
CIS 136: Power Point - 4 credits
CIS 125: MS Word - 4 credits
CIS 117: Web Page Essentials - 4 credits
MAT 135: Intro to Statistics - 3 credits
[COLOR="#0000FF"]AST 102: Astronomy
AST 103: Lab - 4 credits
GEO 105: World Regional Geography - 3 credits[/COLOR]
THE 111: Acting I - 3 credits

Art Institute
MM1360: Inside Multimedia - 3 credits
XD1301: Fund of Design - 3 credits
XD1310: Fund of Drawing - 3 credits
XD2302: Computer Paint - 3 credits
XD3303: Fund of Business - 3 credits

TOTAL: 88 credits

BLUE courses - general electives
Not-BLUE courses- free electives

My advice is not to earn any more credit until you've had an evaluation.

Once you've had an evaluation, you can use the tool in your TESU account to play with "what if" options.

Your list is approximately 50% transfer courses, and 50% non-transfer. The transfer courses will count no matter what degree you choose- that's not the issue.

The non transfer courses WILL transfer, but only as free electives to the 2 degrees you are considering (see exception below), so if you choose a degree that doesn't have slots for free electives, (or only has a small amount) those courses won't get used.

At TESU, it doesn't matter that you completed an associate degree elsewhere, they pull all of the credit out and re-place it into their distribution.

Communication: 27 free elective openings Thomas Edison State University: Communications *note, you already exceed 27 free electives

Marketing: 6 free elective openings BSBA in Marketing Degree Program *you really REALLY exceed 6 free electives

An idea- if you tried their art degree, it's possible that some of your free electives would actually be bumped into degree categories, meaning you might get to use all of your credit. This degree also only uses 27 free electives, but some of your classes would NOT be classified as free electives. I think it's worth getting an evaluation and then checking all 3 before you decide. Thomas Edison State University: Art

[collegechick]

"Easiest" is different for everyone - what might be easy for me might not be easy to you, and vice-versa.

Even though I'm getting my degree from TESU, I don't think they have the most liberal credit transfer policy at all. I think COSC or EC might be more liberal with what they accept. That being said, TESU requires fewer UL credits than COSC/EC (18cr vs. 30cr for most degree programs - and only 12cr UL required for the TESU BSBA).

Thank you for your comment. What does "UL" mean?

[collegechick]

BLUE courses - general electives
Not-BLUE courses- free electives

My advice is not to earn any more credit until you've had an evaluation.

Once you've had an evaluation, you can use the tool in your TESU account to play with "what if" options.

Your list is approximately 50% transfer courses, and 50% non-transfer. The transfer courses will count no matter what degree you choose- that's not the issue.

The non transfer courses WILL transfer, but only as free electives to the 2 degrees you are considering (see exception below), so if you choose a degree that doesn't have slots for free electives, (or only has a small amount) those courses won't get used.

At TESU, it doesn't matter that you completed an associate degree elsewhere, they pull all of the credit out and re-place it into their distribution.

Communication: 27 free elective openings Thomas Edison State University: Communications *note, you already exceed 27 free electives

Marketing: 6 free elective openings BSBA in Marketing Degree Program *you really REALLY exceed 6 free electives

An idea- if you tried their art degree, it's possible that some of your free electives would actually be bumped into degree categories, meaning you might get to use all of your credit. This degree also only uses 27 free electives, but some of your classes would NOT be classified as free electives. I think it's worth getting an evaluation and then checking all 3 before you decide. Thomas Edison State University: Art

Thank you for your comment. So, are you saying that even with 88 legit credits, I still may not be able to apply all of them to the Communications Degree? If so, TESU is definitely not as liberal as I thought. Also bummed to learn that they don't accept FEMA courses, as I've completed 6 additional credits through them as well.

[cookderosa]

Thank you for your comment. So, are you saying that even with 88 legit credits, I still may not be able to apply all of them to the Communications Degree? If so, TESU is definitely not as liberal as I thought. Also bummed to learn that they don't accept FEMA courses, as I've completed 6 additional credits through them as well.

This isn't going to be specific to TESU, it's going to be that way for every college. You have to complete credits that plug the holes. In other words, let's say you had 200 credits in automotive. They are totally "legit" credits from an accredited college. Those credits are not English. They are not math. They are not psychology. They are not literature..... if you don't meet the requirements of the degree, you can't earn the degree. In your case, you have more non-general education courses than the 2 degrees you are considering allow. It's not a TESU thing, it's your transcript.

You can earn any degree at TESU, the question is how attached you're going to be to the courses you've already completed. If you really really really want them all to "count" it's probably going to require the Art degree. Whether or not that's important to you is a personal choice. I understand your frustration, I went into TESU with an associate degree where ZERO credits counted- I started from scratch. For me, it was waste a zillion hours and dollars plugging a square peg in a round hole, or just finding the degree I wanted and going forward. I went from scratch to AA & BA in only 18 months, but it's up to you to decide.

[KayV]

The CIS (Understanding the Physical and Natural World) and Acting (Humanities) courses should transfer as General Ed electives, shouldn't they?
UL means Upper Level.
Did your associate degree come from a community college or a 4-year institution?

[alleycat]

Yes Kay V you are right it will and should come in under humanities and natural science. Her credits in Adobe will and can come in under Art. Foundation of Design, Computer Paint, Drawing and Media can come in under Art. But I do not think they will come in under upper level. Those can also count as humanities if need be. But if the degree seeker want a Communication degree I would definantely make sure these course go toward that. Just ask for a revaluation on it after they come in.

[KayV]

I think you are fairly close to a BA in Communications at TESU.

TESU BA Communications

General Education Requirements

1. ENG 121: Eng Comp - 3 credits
2. ENG 122: Eng Comp II - 3 credits
3. Need TECEP Technical Communications TESU COM-202 - 3 credits
4. Need Information Literacy (CLEP Analyzing and Interpreting Lit 6)
5. MAT 135: Intro to Statistics - 3 credits
6. GEO 105: World Regional Geography - 3 credits
7. Need The Institutes’ Insurance Ethics- 2 credits
8. Need American Government/ Intro to Comparative Politics - 3 credits
9. HUM 122: Survey of Humanities II - 3 credits
10. HUM 123: Survey of Humanities III - 3 credits
11. PSY 101: Gen Psychology - 3 credits
12. PSY 102: Gen Psychology II - 3 credits
13. AST 102: Astronomy
14. AST 103: Lab - 4 credits
15. ART 111: Art History - 3 credits
16. THE 111: Acting I - 3 credits
17. CIS 136: Power Point - 4 credits
18. CIS 125: MS Word - 4 credits
19. CIS 117: Web Page Essentials - 4 credits

Area of Study: Communications
20. SPE 125: Interpersonal Comm - 3 credits (TESU COM-299 if from cc)
21. SPE 115: Speech Comm - 3 credits (TESU COM-209)
22. Need LIB-495 Liberal Arts Capstone- 3 UL credits
23. FVT 150: Development of Film Expression - 3 credits
23. FVT 160: Video Equipment & Tech - 3 credits
24. FVT 254: Digital Editing - 3 credits
25. XD2302: Computer Paint - 3 credits (TESU GRA-302- 3UL credits)
26. Need Saylor/ TECEP Managerial Communications (TESU MAN-373 - 3UL credits)
27. Need TECEP Marketing Communications (TESU MAR-321 - 3UL credits)
28. Need Straighterline Business Communications (TESU COM-300 - 3UL credits)
29. Need CSU Global Intercultural Communications (TESU COM-335 - 3UL credits)


Free Electives
30. GAT 120: Adobe Photoshop - 3 credits
31. GAT 106: Adobe Illustrator - 3 credits
32. MM1360: Inside Multimedia - 3 credits
33. XD1301: Fund of Design - 3 credits
34. XD1310: Fund of Drawing - 3 credits
35. XD3303: Fund of Business - 3 credits


You could finish with 9 hours in anything. TESU does not accept FEMA, but they do accept the free TEEX Cybersecurity series and three free hours of NFA courses.