UC Santa Barbara Writing 109 UL - TESU Appeal??

[fingerscrossedx2]

UCSB requires the following to meet their General Education Writing Requirements:

General Education Composition Requirement (Area A)

English Reading and Composition
Objective: To help students develop a facility in English composition.
Two courses are required. Writing 2, 2E, or 2LK, and one of the following: Writing 50, 50E, 50LK, 105A-Z, 107A-Z, 109AA-ZZ, or English 10, 10EM, 10LC.
Students must complete Writing 2, 2E, or 2LK by the end of their sixth quarter at UCSB. Further registration will be blocked for students who do not comply. The following courses cannot be dropped after the fifth day of instruction: Writing 1, 1E, 1LK, 2, 2E, 2LK, 50, 50E, 50LK. In addition, students cannot enroll in and receive credit for these courses (or their equivalents taken at another institution) until they have fulfilled the Entry Level Writing Requirement.


I have completed Writing 2 and the additional upper level writing course, Writing 109. TESU does not accept the upper level writing for their English Comp II requirement. I am stumped by this. Is there an appeal process for course evaluations? I have a phone advising appointment scheduled for tomorrow morning and I am planning to plead my case. If I can complete this area of the GE's the only thing I will have outstanding is the Info Lit and Capstone courses. I am planning to registering for the Capstone for March (late of course). 

[ajs1976a]

What course code / name did they use for Writing 2 and Writing 109? Did Writing 2 come in as English Comp 2?

I had an issue with my Advanced Freshman Writing class from my B&M days duplicating my English Comp 2 from my Associates from my local CC. I appealed but was denied and ended up taking the English Comp 1 TECEP. Ended up working out, because TECEPs counted towards residency at the time and it was another 3 credits for the 24 credit requirement.

[fingerscrossedx2]

What course code / name did they use for Writing 2 and Writing 109?  Did Writing 2 come in as English Comp 2?

I had an issue with my Advanced Freshman Writing class from my B&M days duplicating my English Comp 2 from my Associates from my local CC.  I appealed but was denied and ended up taking the English Comp 1 TECEP.  Ended up working out, because TECEPs counted towards residency at the time and it was another 3 credits for the 24 credit requirement.

Writing 2 came over as ENC 101 (Academic Writing) and Writing 109 is listed as ENG 201 (Writ Science/Tech)

[davewill]

What UCSB requires for their writing requirement is irrelevant. What matters is whether the course you took is equivalent to TESU's ENG 2.

[ajs1976a]

Did you provide the course descriptions to TESU?

[fingerscrossedx2]

What UCSB requires for their writing requirement is irrelevant. What matters is whether the course you took is equivalent to TESU's ENG 2.

You are absolutely right. Thanks.

[dfrecore]

Yeah, the UC's have a funky course-numbering system, which makes it difficult for other schools to figure out what's going on (I think they do it on purpose, frankly).

You need to appeal - you can do it via email, and show that it is basically English 101 & 102 at UCSB, and give the course descriptions from the catalog, and possibly the syllabi, depending on whether the course descriptions give enough info.

[cookderosa]

UCSB requires the following to meet their General Education Writing Requirements:

General Education Composition Requirement (Area A)

English Reading and Composition
Objective: To help students develop a facility in English composition.
Two courses are required. Writing 2, 2E, or 2LK, and one of the following: Writing 50, 50E, 50LK, 105A-Z, 107A-Z, 109AA-ZZ, or English 10, 10EM, 10LC.
Students must complete Writing 2, 2E, or 2LK by the end of their sixth quarter at UCSB. Further registration will be blocked for students who do not comply. The following courses cannot be dropped after the fifth day of instruction: Writing 1, 1E, 1LK, 2, 2E, 2LK, 50, 50E, 50LK. In addition, students cannot enroll in and receive credit for these courses (or their equivalents taken at another institution) until they have fulfilled the Entry Level Writing Requirement.


I have completed Writing 2 and the additional upper level writing course, Writing 109. TESU does not accept the upper level writing for their English Comp II requirement. I am stumped by this. Is there an appeal process for course evaluations? I have a phone advising appointment scheduled for tomorrow morning and I am planning to plead my case. If I can complete this area of the GE's the only thing I will have outstanding is the Info Lit and Capstone courses. I am planning to registering for the Capstone for March (late of course). 

For sure appeal. While it doesn't mean TESU will change, the general "we want 6 credits of writing and composition" is a nearly universal requirement by any accredited 4 year college. I don't know why TESU didn't award credit at first glance, but nothing about your courses looks unusual in terms of level- only in terms of course number/name. Sometimes courses in the language arts area are developmental, and would be *under* a 100 level- and sometimes they have funky names like 050, so it was possibly just an incorrect assumption on TESU's part. Without question, I would appeal. TESU is usually very predictable about accepting transfer credit, (RA, 100+ level, gen ed) and should accept this eventually.