Almost finished with dual CIS/CS degree - HELP!

[jg_nuy]

You could add the Business Administration Associates to your plan - it would be filled in pretty much from the BS CIS.

Thanks!  Were you suggesting adding this because the CIS degree is no longer a BSBA degree?

Mostly because there’s no additional cost. Here’s a helpful page from the wiki
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans

[ACI]

1) Compare the requirements of the ASNSM Math and what you have, write down your missing or remaining classes
2) Same thing for BACS and then the CIS, write down your missing classes that you haven't taken yet
Update the thread, with headings for each, I'll skim through that and see what you can take at TESU and ones that can transfer

I couldn't update the original post for some reason...should I start a new thread with this info?

Here is what he still needs to take. (In the spreadsheet I posted, these classes are in the grey boxes)

BS/BA CIS:
ENC-102 English Composition II (TECEP)
SOS-110 Critical Information Literacy (TESU)
BUS-421 Business Administration Capstone  (TESU)
CIS Elective (Business 309: Digital Marketing & Advertising) - NOT SURE ABOUT THIS AS WE NEED ANOTHER UL CLASS NOW??

BA CS:
ENC-102 English Composition II (TECEP)
SOS-110 Critical Information Literacy (TESU)
CIS-351 - Software Engineering -  (TESU)
LIB-495 Liberal Arts Capstone (TESU)

ASANM Math or AS Math?? which one??
I think everything has been completed.

[b]AS Business Administration: (should we add this on because CIS isn't a BSBA degree anymore???)[/b]
I believe everything is completed except not sure if Man 301 Principles of Management is equivilent to Bus 101 Principles of Management from SDC?

*He enjoys coding...so if we need another class,  one like that would be a good fit.

*We are residents of NJ.  Specifically looking for how we should break up the two terms, and what things we are likey forgetting as we come down the home stretch.  I am nervous about the Capstones as he has never had to do a research paper of this style/magnitude before.  We did find lots of good advice in other threads though.

[bjcheung77]

1) Add the associates if you wanted, you don't really need an ASBA though.  If you're missing that class for the ASBA, you'll be missing that class for the CIS degree as well.  Take the Sophia.org Principles of Management and be done with it.  If you have a valid subscription for Study.com, take the Digital Marketing & Advertising, then take something else as well just to maximize the credit transfers.

2) Taking two terms is great since you can maximize the classes you wanted and get a different associates altogether.  Get this, I would skip the ASBA with the AAS Applied Computer Studies and AAS Environmental, Safety, and Security Technologies instead and use the Associates Capstone as a course for the first term.  You can take the SOS-204: Academic Community Impact and PLA-1010.

SOS-110 Critical Information Literacy (TESU)
CIS-351 - Software Engineering -  (TESU)
SOS-204: Academic Community Impact
APS-2950 - Associates Capstone
PLA-1010 - Prior Learning Assessment

Recap: First term, take the following classes above.  Then finish both degrees, with the CIS Business & BACS Liberal Arts capstones

[ACI]

1) Add the associates if you wanted, you don't really need an ASBA though.  If you're missing that class for the ASBA, you'll be missing that class for the CIS degree as well.  Take the Sophia.org Principles of Management and be done with it.  If you have a valid subscription for Study.com, take the Digital Marketing & Advertising, then take something else as well just to maximize the credit transfers.

2) Taking two terms is great since you can maximize the classes you wanted and get a different associates altogether.  Get this, I would skip the ASBA with the AAS Applied Computer Studies and AAS Environmental, Safety, and Security Technologies instead and use the Associates Capstone as a course for the first term.  You can take the SOS-204: Academic Community Impact and PLA-1010.

SOS-110 Critical Information Literacy (TESU)
CIS-351 - Software Engineering -  (TESU)
SOS-204: Academic Community Impact
APS-2950 - Associates Capstone
PLA-1010 - Prior Learning Assessment

Recap: First term, take the following classes above.  Then finish both degrees, with the CIS Business & BACS Liberal Arts capstones

Thanks for your reply.  
So your advice is to graduate with a 1)CIS Business, 2)BS CS, 3)AS Math, 4)AAS Applied Computer Studies, and 5)AAS Environmental, Safety, and Security Technologies?

I would be really worried about him taking two capstones in one term.  He has not every done a research paper of that type or length before.  Is that something that many have done?

[bjcheung77]

Each of the degrees are a single degree, including #4 which is a dual AOS. 1) Business CIS 2) BACS 3) AS Math
4) Again, a single degree - AAS Applied Computer Studies & AAS Environmental, Safety, and Security Technologies

It's not common that people do two capstones at once, it really depends on the student, their commitments, time management, etc. Get this, a few (several from this board alone) people have done more than the two capstones plus 3 classes and still managed a 4.0 on all 5 classes. The reason I mentioned to take the previous classes is that those are going to get the student 'in-tune' and proficient with research papers.

[davewill]

Thanks for your reply.  
So your advice is to graduate with a 1)CIS Business, 2)BS CS, 3)AS Math, 4)AAS Applied Computer Studies, and 5)AAS Environmental, Safety, and Security Technologies?

I would be really worried about him taking two capstones in one term.  He has not every done a research paper of that type or length before.  Is that something that many have done?

He an always get an extension for one of them if he gets too overwhelmed.

https://www.tesu.edu/current-students/course-extension

[bjcheung77]

Or both of them if he wanted to, he would just need to have 50% of the capstones completed and get professors permission... If he is just working on those two classes on the final term, he can extend both if needed. I would also recommend this if he's having issues... But again, the previous term should have given him some insight on what is required and prepare him for the Bachelors capstone.

[ACI]

Or both of them if he wanted to, he would just need to have 50% of the capstones completed and get professors permission... If he is just working on those two classes on the final term, he can extend both if needed.  I would also recommend this if he's having issues... But again, the previous term should have given him some insight on what is required and prepare him for the Bachelors capstone.

Is less required of the Associate's capstone vs. the Bachelors capstones?  Is it easier to complete?

I'm not familiar with the world of technology.  Can you tell me why you think the dual AOS would be worth it?  I really appreciate the suggestions!

Also, if we just stuck with the CIS and CS degrees, could you give me a recommendation on how to divide up two semesters?

[bjcheung77]

Is less required of the Associate's capstone vs. the Bachelors capstones?  Is it easier to complete?

I'm not familiar with the world of technology.  Can you tell me why you think the dual AOS would be worth it?  I really appreciate the suggestions!

Also, if we just stuck with the CIS and CS degrees, could you give me a recommendation on how to divide up two semesters?

Associates Capstone is easier, faster, as the requirements are shorter than the Bachelors Capstone, it's also going to help the student by preparing them for capstone related work for the Bachelors and beyond, such as the Masters level.  The Associates degrees are actually 'free', you're just doing the Associates Capstone as part of the 15 credit flat rate.  When you do the BACS and/or the CIS degree, the requirements are already completed with the Associates, except the Capstone.  I'll link you to a couple of members posts at the end...

I already did inform you which classes to take for the two semesters or terms...  You're getting caught up with the notion your son can't do it for some reason, if you're thinking that way, it's rather easy - extend the capstones if needed OR take 1 capstone at a time, it's the same fee regardless, it'll just take another term... Having said that, the 15 credit flat rate can be the classes I mentioned above or any easy classes or e-packs, in fact you can do just 9 credits one term, 1 capstone second term, 1 capstone final third term.  The 15 credits are right there.

Basically, it's going be really hard to gauge how your son can/can't do things as you've not provided any additional info, for example, how long it took him to do X Sophia.org credits, X Study.com credits, X community college credits, etc.  We don't have enough info to adequately say, hey he can do the work as per my recommendations, or to slim it down to 3 classes for the first term, 1 capstone, 1 capstone each additional terms. 

CanICode did more than both capstones and the cornerstone while working full-time and got a 4.0: https://www.degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-...95-SOS-110
On the sister board, this member followed my recommendations and was able to do 5 classes at TESU while working full time (yes, I am a moderator of both boards): https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?thr...-ut.61791/

[ACI]

@jg_nuy 
Hi - curious if your son did anything to prep for the Eng Comp II TECEP?