19 year old International Student needs your help

[rachel83az]

An ASNSM is kind of expensive if you go for it alone (it would be free in conjunction with a Bachelor's degree). Not including the cost of credits from Sophia and Study.com, costs would be:

SOS-110 (required cornerstone course): $1605
Residency waiver fee: $3288
12 credits of LL TECEP exams: $624

OR

One flat-rate 16-credit term for $4778. This would include SOS-110, PLA-100, and a further selection of 12 credits of easy LL courses or ePacks.

The cost of getting a TESU Bachelor's degree would be roughly the same as an Associate degree, except you would also need to figure in the Bachelor's degree capstone.

The BSBA CIS at TESU is still available. The official page for it is here: https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/Curre...on-Systems Where do you see a cross next to the degree?

We have degree plans for TESU here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Ca...gree_Plans This includes getting a Comp Sci degree with the BSBA CIS for (almost) no additional cost.

[Personherebb9]

SOS110 can actually be transferred in if you complete the edx TESU microbachelors for, $498 I think.

[IReallyNeedADegree]

An ASNSM is kind of expensive if you go for it alone (it would be free in conjunction with a Bachelor's degree). Not including the cost of credits from Sophia and Study.com, costs would be:

SOS-110 (required cornerstone course): $1605
Residency waiver fee: $3288
12 credits of LL TECEP exams: $624

OR

One flat-rate 16-credit term for $4778. This would include SOS-110, PLA-100, and a further selection of 12 credits of easy LL courses or ePacks.

The cost of getting a TESU Bachelor's degree would be roughly the same as an Associate degree, except you would also need to figure in the Bachelor's degree capstone.

The BSBA CIS at TESU is still available. The official page for it is here: https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/Curre...on-Systems Where do you see a cross next to the degree?

We have degree plans for TESU here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Ca...gree_Plans This includes getting a Comp Sci degree with the BSBA CIS for (almost) no additional cost.

thank you so much for your answer I will look into this! Would you say a BA in Maths or a BSBA in CIS is faster? Edit: wait so you're telling me I could get an BSCA Comp Sci in combination with a BSBA CIS for almost no extra cost and a ASNSM for free???

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SOS110 can actually be transferred in if you complete the edx TESU microbachelors for, $498 I think.

what is a microbachelors ? I never heard of it

[Personherebb9]

It’s a fancy word. Doesn’t actually mean anything. It’s literally just a single university course that you can take through edx, that can transfer into certain universities. In other words it’s a term used by edx to describe credit bearing courses. Similar to how coursera has mastertrack certificates. You can take TESU’s SOS110 cornerstone requirement through them, instead of taking it at TESU, it’ll be around $1000 cheaper.

[LevelUP]

thank you so much for your answer I will look into this! Would you say a BA in Maths or a BSBA in CIS is faster? Edit: wait so you're telling me I could get an BSCA Comp Sci in combination with a BSBA CIS for almost no extra cost and a ASNSM for free???

If you do a flat-rate term at TESU, you could get all the degrees for less than $5000. Or if you do the capstones separately, then it's an extra $1500 which isn't that much.

It only takes 4 more courses + the capstone to earn a BSBA CIS once you have the BSCA degree. 

From the BSCA you only need 2 more math courses to earn the AS in math.

Another thing is THERE ARE NO LIMITATIONS to what courses you can take. You can take any many as you want even if it doesn't fit with your degree plan and you already used up all your free electives. Those extra courses you took will still show on your transcript. So keep this in mind if you have some time left on our Sophia or other memberships and want to try other subjects for fun.

TESU double degree plans
https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan
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[rachel83az]

SOS110 can actually be transferred in if you complete the edx TESU microbachelors for, $498 I think.

You still need a minimum of 15 RA credits for an Associate or 30 for a Bachelor's, so the edX course isn't necessarily a savings. At least, not for an Associate degree.

thank you so much for your answer I will look into this! Would you say a BA in Maths or a BSBA in CIS is faster?

The BSBA in CIS is probably going to be significantly faster than the BA in Maths. The Maths degree requires a number of specialized courses that can be much more time-consuming than the required ones for the BSBA CIS. https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

Edit: wait so you're telling me I could get an BSCA Comp Sci in combination with a BSBA CIS for almost no extra cost and a ASNSM for free???

Yep, you can get up to 6 or 7 degrees for only slightly more than the cost of a single Bachelor's degree.

TESU allows up to 2 Bachelor's degrees, and each of those can have up to 2 AOS/Majors. So, that's 4 degrees right there. In theory, you could do something like get the BACS and the BA Maths and the BSBA CIS and a BSBA Marketing and it wouldn't cost that much more than just getting one of those.

Then you can get up to 2 Associate degrees. If you get the ASNSM in Computer Science (this one is filled automatically when you do the BA CS and should be mostly filled with the BSBA CIS) and the ASNSM in Maths, that counts as a single degree for TESU's purposes. You could then add a third "free" degree from this list: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans TESU offers other Associate degrees, but the other degrees all require an Associate capstone. This makes them not "free", and slightly more of a hassle to obtain.

Now, normally, we don't recommend students go after so many degrees at once. It's easy to get overwhelmed and not finish any of them. But, if you concentrate on a single degree at a time, it's not necessarily a bad thing to get multiple degrees.

One final thing I forgot, since it sounds like you'll eventually be returning to Germany. I can't remember off the top of my head if Anabin is okay with TESU's Business degrees. Anabin is very picky about Business degrees in particular and some schools have the "wrong" kind of secondary accreditation. In addition to the standard Regional Accreditation, TESU's Business degrees have ACBSP accreditation. https://www.tesu.edu/about/accreditation There 3 types of secondary accreditation for business degrees and, IIRC, Anabin only accepts one type.

I believe that there are many employers out there who won't care about what Anabin has to say, and you mostly have to be concerned if you want a German Master's degree, but it's something to be aware of.

[IReallyNeedADegree]

It’s a fancy word. Doesn’t actually mean anything. It’s literally just a single university course that you can take through edx, that can transfer into certain universities. In other words it’s a term used by edx to describe credit bearing courses. Similar to how coursera has mastertrack certificates. You can take TESU’s SOS110 cornerstone requirement through them, instead of taking it at TESU, it’ll be around $1000 cheaper.

ok I will look into it edx is new to me , do you have any links?

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SOS110 can actually be transferred in if you complete the edx TESU microbachelors for, $498 I think.

You still need a minimum of 15 RA credits for an Associate or 30 for a Bachelor's, so the edX course isn't necessarily a savings. At least, not for an Associate degree.

thank you so much for your answer I will look into this! Would you say a BA in Maths or a BSBA in CIS is faster?

The BSBA in CIS is probably going to be significantly faster than the BA in Maths. The Maths degree requires a number of specialized courses that can be much more time-consuming than the required ones for the BSBA CIS. https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...egree_Plan

Edit: wait so you're telling me I could get an BSCA Comp Sci in combination with a BSBA CIS for almost no extra cost and a ASNSM for free???

Yep, you can get up to 6 or 7 degrees for only slightly more than the cost of a single Bachelor's degree.

TESU allows up to 2 Bachelor's degrees, and each of those can have up to 2 AOS/Majors. So, that's 4 degrees right there. In theory, you could do something like get the BACS and the BA Maths and the BSBA CIS and a BSBA Marketing and it wouldn't cost that much more than just getting one of those.

Then you can get up to 2 Associate degrees. If you get the ASNSM in Computer Science (this one is filled automatically when you do the BA CS and should be mostly filled with the BSBA CIS) and the ASNSM in Maths, that counts as a single degree for TESU's purposes. You could then add a third "free" degree from this list: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Sa...gree_Plans TESU offers other Associate degrees, but the other degrees all require an Associate capstone. This makes them not "free", and slightly more of a hassle to obtain.

Now, normally, we don't recommend students go after so many degrees at once. It's easy to get overwhelmed and not finish any of them. But, if you concentrate on a single degree at a time, it's not necessarily a bad thing to get multiple degrees.

One final thing I forgot, since it sounds like you'll eventually be returning to Germany. I can't remember off the top of my head if Anabin is okay with TESU's Business degrees. Anabin is very picky about Business degrees in particular and some schools have the "wrong" kind of secondary accreditation. In addition to the standard Regional Accreditation, TESU's Business degrees have ACBSP accreditation. https://www.tesu.edu/about/accreditation There 3 types of secondary accreditation for business degrees and, IIRC, Anabin only accepts one type.

I believe that there are many employers out there who won't care about what Anabin has to say, and you mostly have to be concerned if you want a German Master's degree, but it's something to be aware of.

thank you for your elaborate response, so if I understand this correctly anabin doesnt recognize the BSBA CIS as accredited so I couldn't go on and get a german Masters degree, what kind of accreditation would you need for it?

[rachel83az]

thank you for your elaborate response, so if I understand this correctly anabin doesnt recognize the BSBA CIS as accredited so I couldn't go on and get a german Masters degree, what kind of accreditation would you need for it?

I am not 100% sure; my German isn't good enough to check Anabin one way or another. @sarahmac may be able to assist. She's German and, IIRC, she is getting a TESU degree. But I forget which one. She also seems pretty well-versed in the German system.

TESU is rated H+/- in Anabin, which means that some degrees are accepted and others are not. My German ability is not up to searching to see if they get more specific. I found some posts on German forums, from a few years back, that indicate that ACBSP accreditation is/was good at the time. I am unable to verify whether that was actually true or if it was ever true. It could be the TESU Nursing and Aviation degrees, for instance, that aren't accepted, while everything else is. Or it could be everything but Business degrees are accepted.

On the other hand, UMPI has no secondary accreditation beyond their primary accreditation. They are RA accredited, but they don't even have ACBSP accreditation. However, they're rated as H+ in Anabin, which means that even their Business degrees should be accepted. 

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If you got the dual BACS/BSBA CIS degree, you should have at least one degree that is accepted by Anabin. I think you'd be able to use both for employment purposes, though?

[IReallyNeedADegree]

thank you for your elaborate response, so if I understand this correctly anabin doesnt recognize the BSBA CIS as accredited so I couldn't go on and get a german Masters degree, what kind of accreditation would you need for it?

I am not 100% sure; my German isn't good enough to check Anabin one way or another. @sarahmac may be able to assist. She's German and, IIRC, she is getting a TESU degree. But I forget which one. She also seems pretty well-versed in the German system.

TESU is rated H+/- in Anabin, which means that some degrees are accepted and others are not. My German ability is not up to searching to see if they get more specific. I found some posts on German forums, from a few years back, that indicate that ACBSP accreditation is/was good at the time. I am unable to verify whether that was actually true or if it was ever true. It could be the TESU Nursing and Aviation degrees, for instance, that aren't accepted, while everything else is. Or it could be everything but Business degrees are accepted.

On the other hand, UMPI has no secondary accreditation beyond their primary accreditation. They are RA accredited, but they don't even have ACBSP accreditation. However, they're rated as H+ in Anabin, which means that even their Business degrees should be accepted. 

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If you got the dual BACS/BSBA CIS degree, you should have at least one degree that is accepted by Anabin. I think you'd be able to use both for employment purposes, though?

sounds great I still have to decide, do you know of any degree like data science or data analytics? maybe statistics that is hackable?

[davewill]

Statistics.com and TESU have a partnership for a reduced cost Data Science Analytics degree. A few people here have done it. The Statistics.com tuition and fees are $6K plus whatever you have to spend at other alt credit providers and for TESU tuition and fees, but might be worth it to you.

https://www.statistics.com/degree-progra...gree-tesu/

Another approach would be to get the BACS cheaply and quickly, then persue data analytics either independently, as some sort of nanodegree or cert or in grad school.

Georgia Tech as an online Analytics Master's that could be a good follow on:

https://www.gatech.edu/academics/degrees...-analytics