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		<title><![CDATA[Online Degrees and CLEP and DSST Exam Prep Discussion - CLEP, DSST, and TECEP Exam Discussion. Also Modern States and InstantCert.]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Online Degrees and CLEP and DSST Exam Prep Discussion - https://degreeforum.net/mybb]]></description>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2026 07:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[If I fail a TECEP, can I use a CLEP?]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-If-I-fail-a-TECEP-can-I-use-a-CLEP--51878</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2026 09:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=150296">markeith</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello,<br />
I completed the Modern States course and received a voucher for the Sociology CLEP. After registering for the CLEP, I realized that Sociology is also offered as a TECEP. Since I’ve been using TECEPs to fill as many RA credits as possible, I decided to register for the TECEP as well.<br />
<br />
I scheduled both exams back-to-back this weekend. However, after doing some additional research, I feel well prepared for the CLEP but may not be as prepared for the TECEP.<br />
<br />
My concern is that if I take and fail the TECEP, I may no longer be able to use the Sociology CLEP to fulfill the requirement. Does anyone know if failing the TECEP would prevent me from later using the CLEP for the same subject?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello,<br />
I completed the Modern States course and received a voucher for the Sociology CLEP. After registering for the CLEP, I realized that Sociology is also offered as a TECEP. Since I’ve been using TECEPs to fill as many RA credits as possible, I decided to register for the TECEP as well.<br />
<br />
I scheduled both exams back-to-back this weekend. However, after doing some additional research, I feel well prepared for the CLEP but may not be as prepared for the TECEP.<br />
<br />
My concern is that if I take and fail the TECEP, I may no longer be able to use the Sociology CLEP to fulfill the requirement. Does anyone know if failing the TECEP would prevent me from later using the CLEP for the same subject?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[DSST Developing New Tests in Several CLEP Subjects]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-DSST-Developing-New-Tests-in-Several-CLEP-Subjects</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2026 07:24:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=2497">Jonathan Whatley</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[The DSST program is hiring US college and university instructors <a href="https://jobs.dayforcehcm.com/prometric/CANDIDATEPORTAL?searchText=dsst" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">to be contract subject matter experts</a> to contribute to test development in<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>American Government and Politics, which would be a new title to the DSST program, competing with CLEP<br />
</li>
<li>Analyzing and Interpreting English Literature, same<br />
</li>
<li>Calculus, same<br />
</li>
<li>Introduction to Psychology, same; DSST is still also hiring for the existing DSST subject Lifespan Developmental Psychology<br />
</li>
<li>Ethics &amp; Society, a different title than the current DSSTs “Business Ethics &amp; Society,” “Ethics in America,” and “Ethics in Technology.” The simplest explanation is that they’re revising Ethics in America with a more global name. But it’s also possible the new title will consolidate business ethics with general ethics.<br />
</li>
</ul>
This is great news for people who can’t reasonably access CLEP testing. Online CLEP testing with remote proctoring is only available to US residents or military. I would have to drive six hours one way crossing an international border to reach the closest in-person public CLEP center, and at least two days to reach the closest one in the country I’m in.<br />
<br />
This is also good news for test-takers with long academic planning time horizons. Since 2022 CLEP will no longer issue score reports 10 years after an exam is taken.<br />
<br />
This is also good news for this little sector of education generally.<br />
<br />
Hat tip to siersema who notes DSST subject matter expert hiring <a href="https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/get-paid-to-be-a-sme-for-dsst-others.64525/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">on the sister board.</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[The DSST program is hiring US college and university instructors <a href="https://jobs.dayforcehcm.com/prometric/CANDIDATEPORTAL?searchText=dsst" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">to be contract subject matter experts</a> to contribute to test development in<br />
<ul class="mycode_list"><li>American Government and Politics, which would be a new title to the DSST program, competing with CLEP<br />
</li>
<li>Analyzing and Interpreting English Literature, same<br />
</li>
<li>Calculus, same<br />
</li>
<li>Introduction to Psychology, same; DSST is still also hiring for the existing DSST subject Lifespan Developmental Psychology<br />
</li>
<li>Ethics &amp; Society, a different title than the current DSSTs “Business Ethics &amp; Society,” “Ethics in America,” and “Ethics in Technology.” The simplest explanation is that they’re revising Ethics in America with a more global name. But it’s also possible the new title will consolidate business ethics with general ethics.<br />
</li>
</ul>
This is great news for people who can’t reasonably access CLEP testing. Online CLEP testing with remote proctoring is only available to US residents or military. I would have to drive six hours one way crossing an international border to reach the closest in-person public CLEP center, and at least two days to reach the closest one in the country I’m in.<br />
<br />
This is also good news for test-takers with long academic planning time horizons. Since 2022 CLEP will no longer issue score reports 10 years after an exam is taken.<br />
<br />
This is also good news for this little sector of education generally.<br />
<br />
Hat tip to siersema who notes DSST subject matter expert hiring <a href="https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/get-paid-to-be-a-sme-for-dsst-others.64525/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">on the sister board.</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Advanced Accounting II Options for TESU?]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Advanced-Accounting-II-Options-for-TESU</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2026 22:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=139801">Brogan98</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
<br />
I'm currently working through TESU's BSBA Accounting/CPA degree, and I had a quick question - does anyone know of exam options for TESU's Advanced Accounting II (ACC-4020) course?<br />
<br />
I've searched around a bit, but the closest I found was Study.com's Advanced Accounting II (Accounting 302), which does not seem like it would count (at least from the description.<br />
<br />
I'm trying to avoid having to take this course directly through TESU (for cost and time reasons) in other words. Any help is appreciated!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi All,<br />
<br />
I'm currently working through TESU's BSBA Accounting/CPA degree, and I had a quick question - does anyone know of exam options for TESU's Advanced Accounting II (ACC-4020) course?<br />
<br />
I've searched around a bit, but the closest I found was Study.com's Advanced Accounting II (Accounting 302), which does not seem like it would count (at least from the description.<br />
<br />
I'm trying to avoid having to take this course directly through TESU (for cost and time reasons) in other words. Any help is appreciated!!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Registering for a TECEP?]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Registering-for-a-TECEP--51096</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2026 14:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=140662">boblax</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've been trying to register to TECEPs but to no avail. I've managed to add them to my schedule, I also signed the student guideline policy thing, but I'm stuck and can't find the next step.<br />
<br />
This is what my schedule page looks like: <a href="https://ibb.co/xt0Q4qzm" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/xt0Q4qzm</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've been trying to register to TECEPs but to no avail. I've managed to add them to my schedule, I also signed the student guideline policy thing, but I'm stuck and can't find the next step.<br />
<br />
This is what my schedule page looks like: <a href="https://ibb.co/xt0Q4qzm" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://ibb.co/xt0Q4qzm</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TECEP - Writing For Success II questions]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-TECEP-Writing-For-Success-II-questions</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2025 19:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=136764">JayKosmos</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Getting nervous as my test date approaches, I'm terrible with essays and have forgotten how to do citations.<br />
<br />
I am going to get a manual today but haven't been able to narrow down which one I should get.<br />
<br />
I did look at the TESU page about the test but it's not the same as hearing from someone who has taken it, so any input at all about this TECEP is appreciated lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Getting nervous as my test date approaches, I'm terrible with essays and have forgotten how to do citations.<br />
<br />
I am going to get a manual today but haven't been able to narrow down which one I should get.<br />
<br />
I did look at the TESU page about the test but it's not the same as hearing from someone who has taken it, so any input at all about this TECEP is appreciated lol]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[American Government CLEP]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-American-Government-CLEP--50567</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2025 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=137803">AlanG117</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello everyone,<br />
<br />
I am pretty new to this IC and its forum. I wanted to ask different opinions on study material I am using. I first started off purchasing the REA book and study guide in hopes I can understand AG. Unfortunately it isn't helping. I went ahead and bought IC for it's flash cards and mock up tests and so far I am doing good on flash card mastery. I have mastered two sets out of the 5( I forget how many there is) in the course of 2 ish days. I find it easier because I remember by repetition rather... instead just knowing how questions and answers look like. I am supplementing also the REA tests, the diagnostics and two exams it comes with. First attempt on diagnostic was a 14%. After doing some of the flash cards and some educational guesses, I took it a second time and scored a 40%. So I guess I must be doing something right.<br />
<br />
I want to know opinions of those that have taken it if there ARE things I should absolutely remember instead of just remembering how it looks on the flashcard if that makes sense. I apologize if this post seems like it's everywhere. I am scrambling to take the CLEP after neglecting taking national government since I started college last year, so here I am.<br />
<br />
Thank you !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello everyone,<br />
<br />
I am pretty new to this IC and its forum. I wanted to ask different opinions on study material I am using. I first started off purchasing the REA book and study guide in hopes I can understand AG. Unfortunately it isn't helping. I went ahead and bought IC for it's flash cards and mock up tests and so far I am doing good on flash card mastery. I have mastered two sets out of the 5( I forget how many there is) in the course of 2 ish days. I find it easier because I remember by repetition rather... instead just knowing how questions and answers look like. I am supplementing also the REA tests, the diagnostics and two exams it comes with. First attempt on diagnostic was a 14%. After doing some of the flash cards and some educational guesses, I took it a second time and scored a 40%. So I guess I must be doing something right.<br />
<br />
I want to know opinions of those that have taken it if there ARE things I should absolutely remember instead of just remembering how it looks on the flashcard if that makes sense. I apologize if this post seems like it's everywhere. I am scrambling to take the CLEP after neglecting taking national government since I started college last year, so here I am.<br />
<br />
Thank you !]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Koine Greek CBE anywhere?]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Koine-Greek-CBE-anywhere</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2025 16:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=136764">JayKosmos</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I've been teaching myself Koine Greek* in my spare time and thought it would be cool if I could find a way other than a PLA to get credit for it.<br />
I'd much prefer a simple CBE test of some kind. I'm doing TESU if that matters.<br />
<br />
Has anyone done this? <br />
<br />
I know its unlikely but a cursory search hasn't come up with any results. I'm now studying for about 21+ credits in the next couple months and don't have a ton of time to hunt for it so thought I'd ask on the offchance someone's already done it.<br />
<br />
Thanks in advance.<br />
<br />
*Not modern Greek, pretty different. A dead language, "Ancient" or "New Testament" Greek.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I've been teaching myself Koine Greek* in my spare time and thought it would be cool if I could find a way other than a PLA to get credit for it.<br />
I'd much prefer a simple CBE test of some kind. I'm doing TESU if that matters.<br />
<br />
Has anyone done this? <br />
<br />
I know its unlikely but a cursory search hasn't come up with any results. I'm now studying for about 21+ credits in the next couple months and don't have a ton of time to hunt for it so thought I'd ask on the offchance someone's already done it.<br />
<br />
Thanks in advance.<br />
<br />
*Not modern Greek, pretty different. A dead language, "Ancient" or "New Testament" Greek.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Modern States Intro Sociology for Voucher?]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Modern-States-Intro-Sociology-for-Voucher</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2025 21:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=136764">JayKosmos</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I just registered and all I can find for Intro Sociology is the legacy course.<br />
I just wanted to go through them for the voucher at the end.<br />
Is there a replacement course that offers the voucher for that test?<br />
<br />
I started all this over a decade ago but I see a lot has changed since then. RIP Fema <img src="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/sad.png" alt="Sad" title="Sad" class="smilie smilie_8" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I just registered and all I can find for Intro Sociology is the legacy course.<br />
I just wanted to go through them for the voucher at the end.<br />
Is there a replacement course that offers the voucher for that test?<br />
<br />
I started all this over a decade ago but I see a lot has changed since then. RIP Fema <img src="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/images/smilies/sad.png" alt="Sad" title="Sad" class="smilie smilie_8" />]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[TES-1110-TECEP AI Unlocked: Tools, Prompts, and Possibilities]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-TES-1110-TECEP-AI-Unlocked-Tools-Prompts-and-Possibilities</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 05:19:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=106923">fmsoa</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Very easy 100%<br />
<br />
60 MC Questions.<br />
20: Basic ML/DL Concetps<br />
20: Gen AI and Prompt Engineering<br />
20: Ethics and Cybersecurity<br />
Again, very basic, spent no time studying. Worked on the 30 sample questions got 29 correct.<br />
<br />
Originally not planned to really take the test. Buy since it is free from the scholarship offer, decided to take it and still got Medical Terminology and Science of Caffeine as placeholders just in case]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Very easy 100%<br />
<br />
60 MC Questions.<br />
20: Basic ML/DL Concetps<br />
20: Gen AI and Prompt Engineering<br />
20: Ethics and Cybersecurity<br />
Again, very basic, spent no time studying. Worked on the 30 sample questions got 29 correct.<br />
<br />
Originally not planned to really take the test. Buy since it is free from the scholarship offer, decided to take it and still got Medical Terminology and Science of Caffeine as placeholders just in case]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[What is the best first CLEP exam to take in 2025 for someone new to credit-by-exam?]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-What-is-the-best-first-CLEP-exam-to-take-in-2025-for-someone-new-to-credit-by-exam</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2025 02:52:45 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=136094">Arielbr</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I’m completely new to CLEP and other credit-by-exam programs (DSST, TECEP, etc.), and I’m a bit overwhelmed by the choices. For someone starting from scratch this year, what’s considered the “easiest” or most straightforward CLEP exam to begin with?<br />
<br />
Also, is it better to pair Modern States with InstantCert right away, or should I stick to one platform for my very first exam?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I’m completely new to CLEP and other credit-by-exam programs (DSST, TECEP, etc.), and I’m a bit overwhelmed by the choices. For someone starting from scratch this year, what’s considered the “easiest” or most straightforward CLEP exam to begin with?<br />
<br />
Also, is it better to pair Modern States with InstantCert right away, or should I stick to one platform for my very first exam?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Medical Terminology dropped]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-Medical-Terminology-dropped</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2025 16:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=135208">Lierbag</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[So I was doing a second bachelor degree of CS, I plan to register TECEP which is Medical Terminology for the next term so that I can request a transcript, however, after successfully paying for the course, the course was dropped. I called the registration office they told me the course was dropped per advising. <br />
<br />
What does it mean? Does it mean that the course was dropped by academic advisors because it does not fit into my degree program? <br />
Or was the course dropped because Medical Terminology was not offered for the August Term? <br />
<br />
Does anyone have similar experiences? How were you able to register a TECEP course that does not fit your degree program?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So I was doing a second bachelor degree of CS, I plan to register TECEP which is Medical Terminology for the next term so that I can request a transcript, however, after successfully paying for the course, the course was dropped. I called the registration office they told me the course was dropped per advising. <br />
<br />
What does it mean? Does it mean that the course was dropped by academic advisors because it does not fit into my degree program? <br />
Or was the course dropped because Medical Terminology was not offered for the August Term? <br />
<br />
Does anyone have similar experiences? How were you able to register a TECEP course that does not fit your degree program?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[CLEP:  Accounting vs. Micro vs. Macro vs. Social Science]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-CLEP-Accounting-vs-Micro-vs-Macro-vs-Social-Science</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2025 03:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=133526">Seba</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey everyone!<br />
I’d really appreciate your help figuring out which course is the easiest CLEP: Financial Accounting, Social Science and History, Microeconomics, or Macroeconomics.<br />
I have basically zero background in Accounting and Economics, except for a super basic econ class I took back in high school. I have taken the World History AP exam before and passed US history I and I CLEPs as well.<br />
Thanks in advance!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey everyone!<br />
I’d really appreciate your help figuring out which course is the easiest CLEP: Financial Accounting, Social Science and History, Microeconomics, or Macroeconomics.<br />
I have basically zero background in Accounting and Economics, except for a super basic econ class I took back in high school. I have taken the World History AP exam before and passed US history I and I CLEPs as well.<br />
Thanks in advance!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[489 and Pass on Principles of Public Speaking Pt 1 and 2]]></title>
			<link>https://degreeforum.net/mybb/Thread-489-and-Pass-on-Principles-of-Public-Speaking-Pt-1-and-2</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2025 16:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://degreeforum.net/mybb/member.php?action=profile&uid=133014">Tbwitzel</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey all!<br />
<br />
Took the Principles of Public Speaking DSST Pt 1 and 2 on Tuesday, and already got my scores back for both. Received a 489 on the written and a pass on the spoken. Here are my thoughts:<br />
<br />
Prep time: 30 minutes (literally in car before the test)<br />
Difficulty: 2/10 <br />
<br />
Part 1- Multiple Choice: Honestly, this was both trickier and easier than I thought. Before I joined the military, I had a job in which I was often required to speak in front of influential audiences, anywhere from 5-500 people. Public Speaking has always been one of my strongest skills, and I actually prefer speaking to a group than to somebody one on one (call me a weirdo, and I'll agree). So because I was using instacert for my previous exam (Principles of Supervision) and when I saw they didn't have a module for this portion, I kind of ignored it and thought I could go in and crush it without any prep. But some nerves and cold feet saw me sitting in my car outside the testing facility about an hour before test scrambling to find a study guide to give me a bit of prep. I eventually found <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Mastering the DSST (by Peterson) chapters 6-8: Principles of Public Speaking. </span>On the amazon store, you can literally just buy these 2 chapters for &#36;2.99 and get them as an e-book, and I highly recommend it. The multiple choice was not super hard, and although there are some tricky terms that you should know, there aren't that many- like I said, I studied for about 30 minutes before hand. But these couple chapters shored up my vocab knowledge, and for this test some of the terms you need to know to get the question right. Read this chapter, and focus on these subjects:<br />
<br />
Types of speeches and what form of speech is best for them(informational, persuasive, entertaining, etc.)<br />
Types of preparation for speeches (impromptu, manuscript, etc)<br />
Logical fallacies (bandwagon, hasty generalization, red herring etc)<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">specific unfamiliar vocab (ad hominem, ad populum, ethos, logos, pathos)</span><br />
Different speech structures (spatial, chronological, temporal)<br />
Audience analysis and relevance (these can be a bit straightforward, but you will get multiple questions on them)<br />
<br />
I think if you really know these, it's about 60% of the battle. About 30% of the battle is simply critically analyzing the question and finding the most logical answer. I bolded the vocab section because if you go into the test not knowing what those are, you will be caught off guard. Really focus on the 3 "os"- pathos, logos and ethos; all of the logical fallacies, and the different speech structures. There are some Latin terms, but reading through the chapter and/or finding the quizlet stack with these flash cards is really helpful.<br />
<br />
I didn't think I did great and got a 489- I know we don't know the exact number of questions we get wrong on any test, but the absolute worst possible score I got was 89/100, and probably closer to 95/100. You all should be fine.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> Part 2: Preparing a Speech</span><br />
<br />
I think a lot of people get in their head about this, because the test is called "Principles of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Public </span>Speaking" and they think <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">oh my god, I have to prepare a speech in 10 minutes and public speak?? </span>No, no you don't. You will be in a room, by yourself, no proctor, speaking into a microphone and somebody 3-7 days from now will be listening to it and grading it. The best advice I can give is to take deep breaths, be calm and soldier on. They are giving you an impromptu subject- they don't expect you to be an expert on it, and have stats and figures. Hell, I made some up and still passed. Here's how I spent my 10 minutes, gave my speech, and my recommendations/ dos and donts:<br />
<br />
1. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Write an intro sentence: </span>For me, I made it a hooky question. Pose the audience a question to get them involved. This is the very first thing they will hear, so make it good.<br />
2. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Write a thesis: </span>For my thesis statement, I simply said something like, "today, I will convince you why (insert argument here) focusing specifically on (insert two-3 points you want to hit). I highly recommend that you only make it two points- 3 minutes goes by fast, and if you try and get 3-5 points in, you're not going to be able to expand on these and be convincing.<br />
3. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Bullet point rest of intro, and body paragraphs: </span>I've always been pretty good at impromptu speaking, or as my mom calls it lovingly, "bulls***ing". I just bulleted in what I wanted to expand on based on the two focus points from my thesis, made up some stats and some anecdotes/examples, and winged it. <br />
4. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Write out your concluding last sentence. </span>If nothing else, really focus on your first and last sentence and fully write it out. This will be the first and lasting impression that the grader has on you, so if you knock these out of the park you have a good chance of making up for some mistakes. I made my last sentence a rhyme actually, as a final point of emphasis. I went down the "if the glove don't fit, you must equit" pathway and it worked for me.<br />
5. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Briefly bullet the rest of your conclusion. </span> This doesn't have to be rocket science. I literally wrote on my notes "restate your thesis in a different way, retouch on points, and hit the last sentence". <br />
<br />
This should take about 10 minutes. One you start recording:<br />
1. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Do speak slowly and clearly</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2. Don't say "umm" or "like": </span>You don't need to fill the silence. If you're searching for a word in your head, search for it. The audience doesn't need or want to hear umm or like.<br />
<br />
3. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Do use inflection: </span>don't be monotone- make it sound like you're interested in the topic, even if you're not.<br />
4. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Do breathe: </span>might sound self explanatory, but before you start, and after each sentence, take a deep to moderately deep breath. It slows you down and gives you a quick sec to gather your thoughts.<br />
5. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Don't try and write the whole speech out: </span>There's a reason why they give you 10 minutes and not 50. They don't want a manuscript or memorized speech style. They want an impromptu speech to see how you do off the top of you're head. Don't let them psyche you out.<br />
<br />
Look, I firmly believe they're not expecting you to be MLK or Obama. The grader understands you've got 10 minutes to prep a subject you're not an expert in without any resources. I think they're trying to throw you off your game and see if you have the ability to sound confident even when you're not. Was this my best effort when it comes to giving a speech? No, not by a long shot. Did I say umm? Yes, one time by accident. Does the grader care about a couple mistakes, umms or stumbles if overall, you speak confidently, don't come off as boring and have a linear, straight forward organizational structure with some good points, examples and even anecdotes? No.<br />
<br />
Bottom line is, you got this (on both fronts). Don't be intimidated by the speech portion, and remind yourself that "just because it's called principles of public speaking, doesn't mean that I am public speaking". You're not. You're prepping an impromptu speech to give into a microphone, by yourself that one person will ever listen to. <br />
<br />
I got my multiple choice score right away, and my speech took 2 and a half days to be graded. I've heard it can take up to 7-10 days, I guess I just got lucky. You'll get an email with your total score, showing your multiple choice and your pass/fail result on your speech.<br />
<br />
You got this!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey all!<br />
<br />
Took the Principles of Public Speaking DSST Pt 1 and 2 on Tuesday, and already got my scores back for both. Received a 489 on the written and a pass on the spoken. Here are my thoughts:<br />
<br />
Prep time: 30 minutes (literally in car before the test)<br />
Difficulty: 2/10 <br />
<br />
Part 1- Multiple Choice: Honestly, this was both trickier and easier than I thought. Before I joined the military, I had a job in which I was often required to speak in front of influential audiences, anywhere from 5-500 people. Public Speaking has always been one of my strongest skills, and I actually prefer speaking to a group than to somebody one on one (call me a weirdo, and I'll agree). So because I was using instacert for my previous exam (Principles of Supervision) and when I saw they didn't have a module for this portion, I kind of ignored it and thought I could go in and crush it without any prep. But some nerves and cold feet saw me sitting in my car outside the testing facility about an hour before test scrambling to find a study guide to give me a bit of prep. I eventually found <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Mastering the DSST (by Peterson) chapters 6-8: Principles of Public Speaking. </span>On the amazon store, you can literally just buy these 2 chapters for &#36;2.99 and get them as an e-book, and I highly recommend it. The multiple choice was not super hard, and although there are some tricky terms that you should know, there aren't that many- like I said, I studied for about 30 minutes before hand. But these couple chapters shored up my vocab knowledge, and for this test some of the terms you need to know to get the question right. Read this chapter, and focus on these subjects:<br />
<br />
Types of speeches and what form of speech is best for them(informational, persuasive, entertaining, etc.)<br />
Types of preparation for speeches (impromptu, manuscript, etc)<br />
Logical fallacies (bandwagon, hasty generalization, red herring etc)<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">specific unfamiliar vocab (ad hominem, ad populum, ethos, logos, pathos)</span><br />
Different speech structures (spatial, chronological, temporal)<br />
Audience analysis and relevance (these can be a bit straightforward, but you will get multiple questions on them)<br />
<br />
I think if you really know these, it's about 60% of the battle. About 30% of the battle is simply critically analyzing the question and finding the most logical answer. I bolded the vocab section because if you go into the test not knowing what those are, you will be caught off guard. Really focus on the 3 "os"- pathos, logos and ethos; all of the logical fallacies, and the different speech structures. There are some Latin terms, but reading through the chapter and/or finding the quizlet stack with these flash cards is really helpful.<br />
<br />
I didn't think I did great and got a 489- I know we don't know the exact number of questions we get wrong on any test, but the absolute worst possible score I got was 89/100, and probably closer to 95/100. You all should be fine.<br />
<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b"> Part 2: Preparing a Speech</span><br />
<br />
I think a lot of people get in their head about this, because the test is called "Principles of <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Public </span>Speaking" and they think <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">oh my god, I have to prepare a speech in 10 minutes and public speak?? </span>No, no you don't. You will be in a room, by yourself, no proctor, speaking into a microphone and somebody 3-7 days from now will be listening to it and grading it. The best advice I can give is to take deep breaths, be calm and soldier on. They are giving you an impromptu subject- they don't expect you to be an expert on it, and have stats and figures. Hell, I made some up and still passed. Here's how I spent my 10 minutes, gave my speech, and my recommendations/ dos and donts:<br />
<br />
1. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Write an intro sentence: </span>For me, I made it a hooky question. Pose the audience a question to get them involved. This is the very first thing they will hear, so make it good.<br />
2. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Write a thesis: </span>For my thesis statement, I simply said something like, "today, I will convince you why (insert argument here) focusing specifically on (insert two-3 points you want to hit). I highly recommend that you only make it two points- 3 minutes goes by fast, and if you try and get 3-5 points in, you're not going to be able to expand on these and be convincing.<br />
3. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Bullet point rest of intro, and body paragraphs: </span>I've always been pretty good at impromptu speaking, or as my mom calls it lovingly, "bulls***ing". I just bulleted in what I wanted to expand on based on the two focus points from my thesis, made up some stats and some anecdotes/examples, and winged it. <br />
4. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Write out your concluding last sentence. </span>If nothing else, really focus on your first and last sentence and fully write it out. This will be the first and lasting impression that the grader has on you, so if you knock these out of the park you have a good chance of making up for some mistakes. I made my last sentence a rhyme actually, as a final point of emphasis. I went down the "if the glove don't fit, you must equit" pathway and it worked for me.<br />
5. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Briefly bullet the rest of your conclusion. </span> This doesn't have to be rocket science. I literally wrote on my notes "restate your thesis in a different way, retouch on points, and hit the last sentence". <br />
<br />
This should take about 10 minutes. One you start recording:<br />
1. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Do speak slowly and clearly</span><br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">2. Don't say "umm" or "like": </span>You don't need to fill the silence. If you're searching for a word in your head, search for it. The audience doesn't need or want to hear umm or like.<br />
<br />
3. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Do use inflection: </span>don't be monotone- make it sound like you're interested in the topic, even if you're not.<br />
4. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Do breathe: </span>might sound self explanatory, but before you start, and after each sentence, take a deep to moderately deep breath. It slows you down and gives you a quick sec to gather your thoughts.<br />
5. <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Don't try and write the whole speech out: </span>There's a reason why they give you 10 minutes and not 50. They don't want a manuscript or memorized speech style. They want an impromptu speech to see how you do off the top of you're head. Don't let them psyche you out.<br />
<br />
Look, I firmly believe they're not expecting you to be MLK or Obama. The grader understands you've got 10 minutes to prep a subject you're not an expert in without any resources. I think they're trying to throw you off your game and see if you have the ability to sound confident even when you're not. Was this my best effort when it comes to giving a speech? No, not by a long shot. Did I say umm? Yes, one time by accident. Does the grader care about a couple mistakes, umms or stumbles if overall, you speak confidently, don't come off as boring and have a linear, straight forward organizational structure with some good points, examples and even anecdotes? No.<br />
<br />
Bottom line is, you got this (on both fronts). Don't be intimidated by the speech portion, and remind yourself that "just because it's called principles of public speaking, doesn't mean that I am public speaking". You're not. You're prepping an impromptu speech to give into a microphone, by yourself that one person will ever listen to. <br />
<br />
I got my multiple choice score right away, and my speech took 2 and a half days to be graded. I've heard it can take up to 7-10 days, I guess I just got lucky. You'll get an email with your total score, showing your multiple choice and your pass/fail result on your speech.<br />
<br />
You got this!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[453 score on Principles of Supervision]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Took the Principles of Supervision test yesterday, and passed with a 453. Here's my advice and experience with the test:<br />
<br />
Difficulty: 2 out of 10<br />
Prep time: 5 hours<br />
<br />
Resources: InstantCert, Audio book Principles of Supervision test prep<br />
<br />
Who should be fine: People that are good at process of elimination and critical thinking on questions, people with college experience, people with good a good vocabulary, people who have studied for/taken the WAPS, people with some notion of leadership and supervision.<br />
<br />
Who should study: People that haven't been in a college setting, don't have a notion of what leaders should do it certain circumstances, and are unfamiliar with leadership vocabulary<br />
<br />
Thoughts:<br />
I'm going to be honest, I felt a bit upset I spent any money prepping for this test. I genuinely believe that I could have rolled out bed, hungover, and gotten a 420 on this test. I'm not saying do it, but you don't need to be worried about this test if you prep for 5-10 hours. I genuinely think you can be unaware of Maslow's HoN or contingency leadership and do fine. It's a lot of process of elimination, and even on the questions that I wasn't sure on there was usually only one good answer. Also, I mentioned the vocabulary knowledge as important because many of the questions may be about something you might not know the actually meat of the theory, but if you simply understand the vocabulary you can deduce what they're trying to say. For example "concurrent controls" are exactly what they sound like- thinks you control in the moment, not before or after. "Contingency leadership" simply means that different situations call for different styles of leadership. If you knew what contingency means (as in being prepared for different unknown outcomes), you'll be able to get the answer. There are a lot of terms that if you know what they mean outside of the principles of supervision or specific theories, you can probably get the answer right based on what they mean.<br />
<br />
Instacert wasn't super helpful when it came to meaningful test prep, simply because I'm a text book guy and like things being put in context. This is why I supplemented with the audio study guide on Audible, which is a bit outdated but will hit some of the key theories I touch on below. It at least gives you a frame of reference for what they test will be about. The flashcards are great IF you know what you're actually supposed to be studying. No background text makes it kind of feel like you're thrown into the subject without any bearing. The practice tests were helpful and pretty accurate in regards to how the test will feel (even if the questions aren't the same). If you are a bit worried about the test and want to get some of the easy, "if you studied the book you'd get this answer in 2 seconds" topics, I would focus on:<br />
<br />
- Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (almost guaranteed to be at least one question about this)<br />
- Different roles of leaders (IE Fayol's 10 roles, what roles fall into which sub-categories like informational, etc.)<br />
- Structures of organizations (Matrix, bureaucratic, centralized, etc)<br />
- stages of supervision (Planning, organizing, leading, controlling: this is a big one, for sure hit these up and be comfortable)<br />
- the theories (path-goal, contingency, cost-leadership, etc.)<br />
- PERT vs GANTT (I only got one question about this, but good to know the difference and what they're used for)<br />
- Discrimination/diversity (you don't really need to study for these, but I got about 5 questions on these subjects that were straightforward)<br />
- Storming, Forming, Norming, Performing (only had one question, but if you're unfamiliar with this is the terminology can be a bit weird)<br />
<br />
<br />
I would say bang for your buck, these are the ones that I would put time and effort into. That being said, you can just ChatGpt this list and they'll give you enough information to get by or know where to start.<br />
<br />
I think that anyone who takes their time on the test, really understands the question and what they're asking, and carefully combs through the answers before selecting the best option will be fine. A lot of the questions are like this:<br />
<br />
What is one outcome of decentralized control of an organization?<br />
a. more rigid structure and top down control<br />
b. more authority and power given to front-line supervisors and employees<br />
c. decreased flexibility at lower levels of the organization<br />
d. decreased communication between the levels of management<br />
<br />
If you chose B, you'll be fine. There will be some that will catch you off guard, but for the most part about 50% of the questions are like this one I just gave.<br />
<br />
Don't stress this too much, if you're worried study a bit- but I promise, if you're getting 70+ on the practice tests, you'll do fine on this test.<br />
<br />
You got it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Took the Principles of Supervision test yesterday, and passed with a 453. Here's my advice and experience with the test:<br />
<br />
Difficulty: 2 out of 10<br />
Prep time: 5 hours<br />
<br />
Resources: InstantCert, Audio book Principles of Supervision test prep<br />
<br />
Who should be fine: People that are good at process of elimination and critical thinking on questions, people with college experience, people with good a good vocabulary, people who have studied for/taken the WAPS, people with some notion of leadership and supervision.<br />
<br />
Who should study: People that haven't been in a college setting, don't have a notion of what leaders should do it certain circumstances, and are unfamiliar with leadership vocabulary<br />
<br />
Thoughts:<br />
I'm going to be honest, I felt a bit upset I spent any money prepping for this test. I genuinely believe that I could have rolled out bed, hungover, and gotten a 420 on this test. I'm not saying do it, but you don't need to be worried about this test if you prep for 5-10 hours. I genuinely think you can be unaware of Maslow's HoN or contingency leadership and do fine. It's a lot of process of elimination, and even on the questions that I wasn't sure on there was usually only one good answer. Also, I mentioned the vocabulary knowledge as important because many of the questions may be about something you might not know the actually meat of the theory, but if you simply understand the vocabulary you can deduce what they're trying to say. For example "concurrent controls" are exactly what they sound like- thinks you control in the moment, not before or after. "Contingency leadership" simply means that different situations call for different styles of leadership. If you knew what contingency means (as in being prepared for different unknown outcomes), you'll be able to get the answer. There are a lot of terms that if you know what they mean outside of the principles of supervision or specific theories, you can probably get the answer right based on what they mean.<br />
<br />
Instacert wasn't super helpful when it came to meaningful test prep, simply because I'm a text book guy and like things being put in context. This is why I supplemented with the audio study guide on Audible, which is a bit outdated but will hit some of the key theories I touch on below. It at least gives you a frame of reference for what they test will be about. The flashcards are great IF you know what you're actually supposed to be studying. No background text makes it kind of feel like you're thrown into the subject without any bearing. The practice tests were helpful and pretty accurate in regards to how the test will feel (even if the questions aren't the same). If you are a bit worried about the test and want to get some of the easy, "if you studied the book you'd get this answer in 2 seconds" topics, I would focus on:<br />
<br />
- Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs (almost guaranteed to be at least one question about this)<br />
- Different roles of leaders (IE Fayol's 10 roles, what roles fall into which sub-categories like informational, etc.)<br />
- Structures of organizations (Matrix, bureaucratic, centralized, etc)<br />
- stages of supervision (Planning, organizing, leading, controlling: this is a big one, for sure hit these up and be comfortable)<br />
- the theories (path-goal, contingency, cost-leadership, etc.)<br />
- PERT vs GANTT (I only got one question about this, but good to know the difference and what they're used for)<br />
- Discrimination/diversity (you don't really need to study for these, but I got about 5 questions on these subjects that were straightforward)<br />
- Storming, Forming, Norming, Performing (only had one question, but if you're unfamiliar with this is the terminology can be a bit weird)<br />
<br />
<br />
I would say bang for your buck, these are the ones that I would put time and effort into. That being said, you can just ChatGpt this list and they'll give you enough information to get by or know where to start.<br />
<br />
I think that anyone who takes their time on the test, really understands the question and what they're asking, and carefully combs through the answers before selecting the best option will be fine. A lot of the questions are like this:<br />
<br />
What is one outcome of decentralized control of an organization?<br />
a. more rigid structure and top down control<br />
b. more authority and power given to front-line supervisors and employees<br />
c. decreased flexibility at lower levels of the organization<br />
d. decreased communication between the levels of management<br />
<br />
If you chose B, you'll be fine. There will be some that will catch you off guard, but for the most part about 50% of the questions are like this one I just gave.<br />
<br />
Don't stress this too much, if you're worried study a bit- but I promise, if you're getting 70+ on the practice tests, you'll do fine on this test.<br />
<br />
You got it!]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Alison.com. Stay. Away]]></title>
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