Yesterday, 12:47 PM
UPDATE: My ENEB > ECE > TESU Relationship
I won't make this long. In a nutshell, TESU ALSO has a "2nd degree" policy. Because my ECE Report denotes "4 Bachelor's degree Equivalencies" [regardless of the fact that I've transferred over 140 credits combined to TESU], "you are required to take 24 NEW Credits to obtain a BA from TESU."
This is the email response I received from their Senior Academic Evaluator:
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the follow up. Provided that the ECE transcript sent to you was an official copy, you are more than welcome to forward the sealed envelope to TESU for evaluation purposes. Your recent application indicated an undecided major - although the BS in General Mgmt was listed as a preferred option. As you are pursuing a 2nd/successive Bachelors degree at TESU, you are required to complete 24 NEW credits (completed after the most recent degree) in the Area of Study. Our staff is currently working to ensure that the BS in General Mgmt degree is formatted properly to our University policies. Additional information on these policies can be found here: https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/current/undergraduate-catalog/university-policies-and-procedures/undergraduate-academic-policies/degree-policies/award-of-degrees-policy/
I mention this aspect first, as the BA in Liberal Studies will have a similar number of credits remaining - as all degrees have the minimum 24 NEW credit stipulation for 2nd degree students. With this in mind, it is recommended to schedule an appointment with a TESU Academic Advisor to review your degree program requirements and determine a plan to move forward. The conversation with our Advisement team should assist in determining your degree path options. It is also worth noting that the majority of, if not all, General Education requirements are waived in the pursuit of a 2nd degree. The exact amount is based on the degree program you are pursuing, however this will impact the overall credits required for a degree. For example, the BS in General Mgmt degree for a 2nd degree student is a 60 credit program. The BA in Liberal Studies degree is a 45 credit program for 2nd degree students. In all situations, the 24 NEW credit policy is included - meaning that the remaining amount of credits should be similar.
TESU has currently accepted all 50 credits from your ECE transcript (to potentially be increased based on your updated transcript), however our degree requirements are often looking for specific courses. Simply having credits completed does not always satisfy your remaining requirements. Course acceptance vs utilization is an important distinction when viewing your TESU Academic Evaluation. If you do not see courses applied to your degree requirements, they are most likely listed in the Other Courses section at the bottom of the evaluation page. I can also confirm that for a 3 credit degree requirement, a minimum of 2 credits are required. The adjustment to accept a 2 credit course will be made by our staff, however that shortage of credit will be moved to a different section of the degree program. The overall total credits required will not be decreased as a result of any credit exceptions - they will just be accounted for elsewhere.
At this point, I would recommend submitting your ECE transcript to TESU as soon as possible, so that a full record of your previous courses are included. In the meantime, you can certainly work with our Advisors to determine which degree program will best suit your needs.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Michael D. Sheridan
Senior Academic Evaluator
Office of the Registrar
Thomas Edison State University
www.tesu.edu
Personal Reflection: I don't NEED a BA/BS! I'm done! I'm NOT going back to undergrad at TESU or Excelsior to do 24 or 30 credits of undergraduate courses. The only way around this [my recommendation to others] would be to find a different FCE Company that ONLY evaluates ENEB as "bachelor credits/no BA/BS Equivalent" and just transfer the credits as individual courses. The moment it says "BA/BS Equivalent," most schools will kick-in a "2nd Degree Policy" and force you to take more unneeded or redundant undergrad courses.
I won't make this long. In a nutshell, TESU ALSO has a "2nd degree" policy. Because my ECE Report denotes "4 Bachelor's degree Equivalencies" [regardless of the fact that I've transferred over 140 credits combined to TESU], "you are required to take 24 NEW Credits to obtain a BA from TESU."
This is the email response I received from their Senior Academic Evaluator:
Hi Michael,
Thanks for the follow up. Provided that the ECE transcript sent to you was an official copy, you are more than welcome to forward the sealed envelope to TESU for evaluation purposes. Your recent application indicated an undecided major - although the BS in General Mgmt was listed as a preferred option. As you are pursuing a 2nd/successive Bachelors degree at TESU, you are required to complete 24 NEW credits (completed after the most recent degree) in the Area of Study. Our staff is currently working to ensure that the BS in General Mgmt degree is formatted properly to our University policies. Additional information on these policies can be found here: https://tesu.smartcatalogiq.com/en/current/undergraduate-catalog/university-policies-and-procedures/undergraduate-academic-policies/degree-policies/award-of-degrees-policy/
I mention this aspect first, as the BA in Liberal Studies will have a similar number of credits remaining - as all degrees have the minimum 24 NEW credit stipulation for 2nd degree students. With this in mind, it is recommended to schedule an appointment with a TESU Academic Advisor to review your degree program requirements and determine a plan to move forward. The conversation with our Advisement team should assist in determining your degree path options. It is also worth noting that the majority of, if not all, General Education requirements are waived in the pursuit of a 2nd degree. The exact amount is based on the degree program you are pursuing, however this will impact the overall credits required for a degree. For example, the BS in General Mgmt degree for a 2nd degree student is a 60 credit program. The BA in Liberal Studies degree is a 45 credit program for 2nd degree students. In all situations, the 24 NEW credit policy is included - meaning that the remaining amount of credits should be similar.
TESU has currently accepted all 50 credits from your ECE transcript (to potentially be increased based on your updated transcript), however our degree requirements are often looking for specific courses. Simply having credits completed does not always satisfy your remaining requirements. Course acceptance vs utilization is an important distinction when viewing your TESU Academic Evaluation. If you do not see courses applied to your degree requirements, they are most likely listed in the Other Courses section at the bottom of the evaluation page. I can also confirm that for a 3 credit degree requirement, a minimum of 2 credits are required. The adjustment to accept a 2 credit course will be made by our staff, however that shortage of credit will be moved to a different section of the degree program. The overall total credits required will not be decreased as a result of any credit exceptions - they will just be accounted for elsewhere.
At this point, I would recommend submitting your ECE transcript to TESU as soon as possible, so that a full record of your previous courses are included. In the meantime, you can certainly work with our Advisors to determine which degree program will best suit your needs.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
Thanks,
Michael D. Sheridan
Senior Academic Evaluator
Office of the Registrar
Thomas Edison State University
www.tesu.edu
Personal Reflection: I don't NEED a BA/BS! I'm done! I'm NOT going back to undergrad at TESU or Excelsior to do 24 or 30 credits of undergraduate courses. The only way around this [my recommendation to others] would be to find a different FCE Company that ONLY evaluates ENEB as "bachelor credits/no BA/BS Equivalent" and just transfer the credits as individual courses. The moment it says "BA/BS Equivalent," most schools will kick-in a "2nd Degree Policy" and force you to take more unneeded or redundant undergrad courses.
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Doctor of Healthcare Administration | Virginia University of Lynchburg
MBA | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Master in Human Resources Management | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Master in Project Management | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Master in Business & Corporate Communication | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Bachelor of Business Administration (Equivalent) | NACES, ECE
Bachelor of Science in Public Relations (Equivalent) | NACES, ECE
In Progress
Master of Arts in Human Rights Practice | University of Arizona, Class of 2025
Doctor of Healthcare Administration | Virginia University of Lynchburg
MBA | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Master in Human Resources Management | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Master in Project Management | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Master in Business & Corporate Communication | Universidad Isabel I / ENEB
Bachelor of Business Administration (Equivalent) | NACES, ECE
Bachelor of Science in Public Relations (Equivalent) | NACES, ECE
In Progress
Master of Arts in Human Rights Practice | University of Arizona, Class of 2025