12-28-2023, 10:43 AM
(12-26-2023, 06:16 PM)Jonathan Whatley Wrote:(12-26-2023, 05:50 PM)unfinesredondo Wrote: UMPI would be a solid option but doesn't it doesn't offer any degrees I'd want.
Not even the Project Management & Information Systems concentration in the BA in Business Administration?
I had considered the specific program in question, but it is still very much a business degree. The more technological courses are not that many in the end. Although, I could consider it later on as a complementary degree if I'll get down to studying another one!
(12-26-2023, 06:17 PM)bjcheung77 Wrote: @unfinesredondo, Welcome to the board... Great introduction post with all that detail in the addendum and template! You may want to just go for the Metropolia BSIT by doing the entire program from them, it should be very inexpensive as you're in the EU and you can ladder to a Masters right after. Review the WIKI here: https://degreeforum.miraheze.org/wiki/Me...d_Sciences
Thank you for bringing this Metropolia's program to my attention! I was aware of the possibility of doing courses at an Open University but never knew the opportunity could be used so extensively. I had only considered Open Studies in the case of universities (not UAS) as one of my options was to go and study Informaatioteknologia (IT) at Aalto University. Unfortunately, there were few courses that would apply to the degree and could be completed entirely online - mostly FiTech's MOOCs. Most courses would require at least the exam to be done on campus so living/working abroad wouldn't have been an option and the pace would've most likely been slower. Of course I could try to enter a university degree program the normal way and try to go at a faster pace. Realistically I would most likely manage to do it in maybe 2,5 years instead of 3, from what I've been hearing from friends taking many courses independently.
I had previously overlooked the possibility of attending a University of Applied Sciences (ammattikorkeakoulu/AMK) as I have the impression that they aren't nearly as respected in Finland. Although, it doesn't really matter how they're seen here as I will continue abroad either way. Here you'd have to complete additional studies to be accepted for a master's in a university with a bachelor's degree from a UAS (alempi ammattikorkeakoulututkinto). There is also the less common path of completing your master's at a UAS (ylempi ammattikorkeakoulututkinto) although you need to have 2 years of work experience. In any case, a degree from Finland should be well-respected abroad as we've managed to keep up the image of world-class education even though I doubt there's much of a difference in terms of university education. Later I became more open to the idea of attending a UAS (Fachhochschule) as I heard it is a more common and respected path in Germany.
For all my purposes, I doubt I could find a better degree path than the one you presented. I've done more research on pathway studies similar Metropolia's NonStop path but have yet to find an option that would be as extensive as completing 3 years of a degree (180 ECTS). The pathway studies are mainly designed for people that didn't get into the degree program with their grades or want to make progress in their studies while waiting for the new application period. Metropolia does offer a similar NonStop path worth 120 ECTS to later transfer to a bachelor's in ICT but it just seems inferior in every way, but I'll ask more about it from them later.
Not getting a GPA was discussed in another thread, but like Tomas said, in Europe, I doubt anyone will come asking for your GPA when applying of for a job. I don't really mind as long as I can still apply for master's programs even if they wouldn't be at the most prestigious institutions. I've booked a time with a school councellor at Metropolia to ask some final questions about the path. Mostly, I want to know if it makes sense to apply in the joint application in January for the normal campus study program that begins in Autumn 2024 as I want to complete everything independently/online. From what I've looked, I haven't found any deal-breakers in the program. Must admit, I'm excited for the opportunity.
(12-27-2023, 07:26 AM)Tomas Wrote:Quote: I noticed that TESU hasn't yet been evaluated/recognized in Germany with an "H+/H-" rating. I would most likely do my master's in Germany or elsewhere in Europe so the recognition of the university would be important to me. Annoyingly, it is the most difficult point to evaluate whether the degree would be accepted in Europe.That TESU is not in Anabin database means only one thing, probably no one with TESU degree asked for Anabin evaluation yet. There should be no problem with TESU whatsoever, it's a state/public regionally accredited university.
If you are in Finland, I'm wondering why you don't get bachelors in Finland, eg. IT degree from Metropolia sounds like an ideal match to what you are looking for to me...
Makes sense that it's simply a matter of fact that no one has applied yet with a degree from TESU. Like you said it, it's still an accredited university. Also, thanks for your contributions on the other thread on Metropolia! Everything else regarding my choice I already addressed above.