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UMPI Psychology
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(10-06-2023, 10:23 AM)Duneranger Wrote:
(10-06-2023, 10:10 AM)Shyjbh Wrote:
(10-06-2023, 09:47 AM)Duneranger Wrote:
(10-06-2023, 09:29 AM)Dreemichele Wrote: I did find a Wiki Detailing a route I could take. My goal is to use this Psychology Degree to enter a nursing school in my town that doesn't use an entrance exam. It took me like 2 hours to figure it out. Only thing is I think I need to take Anatomy & Physiology I&II and Statistics UMPI. They require quite a few other prereqs that will be completed through the psychology degree.

Are you talking about an accelerated BSN? You do not need a psych degree to get into nursing school. Nurses generally only take 2 psych classes (Intro and Developmental) plus STATS , so it doesn't really make sense to pursue a psych degree. It's just a deviation.

UMPI doesn't have anatomy and physiology for yourpace. Also, many nursing schools REQUIRE Anatomy and Physiology 1 and 2 WITH lab (meaning in person not online). I recommend taking these at a local CC. Sophia will NOT be adequate, I promise you. The majority of nursing programs will not take ACE credits.

(10-06-2023, 09:46 AM)rachel83az Wrote: If they'll accept ACE sources, you can take Anatomy & Physiology + Lab and Statistics at Sophia, then Anatomy & Physiology + Lab from StraighterLine.

I highly doubt they will. I have been on nursing school admissions teams before and they are generally picky (given that many A and P classes are highly rigorous.) These are considered the "Cut Courses" and one large factor when gauging admission.

There are no shortcuts here. They know it's not fair when someone can breeze through Sophia AP 1 and 2 in a couple of days versus 2 trad semesters of in-depth AP with intense timed exams and cadaver labs/practicals (and hundreds of hours of studying).

I transferred my SL sciences into a nursing school. Union County College in NJ takes SL, and so does Ocean County College. Thomas Edison School of Nursing does too. Although, TESU Nursing program preferers SL sciences over Sophia.  
I've taken "butt in seat" sciences and SL sciences; SL courses are BETTER in many ways and most times more rigorous and more thoroughly review the subject matter content. The lab kits are fantastic too. I would say, even if your school does not take SL credits, it would not be a waste of time to take a SL course prior to taking the class your institution wants you to take. You will go into the course 100% prepared. Covid has changed everything, and schools are discovering that just because someone takes a course online doesn't mean they're not capable of academic rigor. It doesn't mean we're cheating; it doesn't mean we "breezed through." All those assumptions are unfair. In fact, my TEAS exam score, which was in the 90s, was significantly higher than the students who took mostly "butt in seat" classes. I think the grade and the effort is about the person; not the school or where they took their classes. I switched to pre-med so I'm no longer perusing nursing at this time, but I would tell OP to be a little bit more thorough and ask your school lots of questions. You may be surprised, and you can also save yourself lots of money.

I said majority, I didn't say all. I don't have a pulse on every ADN program but I can speak for BSN programs in general. My background includes advanced nursing degrees and I have been an instructor on admissions committees. I am not just talking to talk.  You said transferred but not specifically accepted into the school so I am not quite sure what you are meaning here.

We absolutely look at where the classes were taken and the rigor involved with the admissions process. Remember you are competing, not just applying. For reference, I have taken both Sophia and SL AP and the quality/rigor doesn't compare to traditional lab/dissection anatomy. It just doesn't. I don't care about individual TEAS scores. I am just stating from an instructor's and SME's perspective,  that the SL courses are not up to par. There is no harm in taking them for some extra learning experience,  however. Now, there ARE online AP courses through BM schools with dissection kits that are far better and might be something OP has considered.

I am well aware that education has changed and schools have evolved. But evolving doesn't mean that time-intensive and rigorous material suddenly becomes easy or more digestible. Otherwise, why would we still have "butts in seat classes"? Why even have science labs or cadaver dissection? Are the on-campus pre-nursing students just fools? I mean I highly doubt most people want to take in-person multiple 100+ questions tests in front of hundreds of people, spend hours upon hours going over flashcards or experience stressful 30 second station-based lab practicals at 7am, if there is some superior go at your own pace online/low stress/minimally proctored class out there.  I have seen tons of students bust their butt with weeks of studying just to scrap by with a B in AP. At SL you can basically CTRL-F 90% of the assignments and get a 0 on the only proctored test and still pass the course...c'mon.

I am trying to set up OP for success and want them to achieve their goal. They can ask the local school about ACE credits, and critical pre-reqs, but I likely know the answer.
Your insult aside  Dodgy   - I was accepted to 2 of the schools of 3. TESU didn't have a problem with my credits, unfortunately, they had a problem with my age. I was not yet 18 at the time, so I decided I have plenty of time to take more sciences and go for an MD.

As far as "up to par," I don't agree. I would say it depends on the course, the school, the teacher, THE STUDENT. People cheat in person too; I see it all the time. 

  1. OP, check the attrition rate, not just nclex pass rate for the school you're applying to. Accelerated programs will probably be harder. If you fail out, you'll be stuck for lots of money. Money that you won't be able to pay back unless u have a nurse's salary. 
  2. OP, many accelerated programs want all the loan money up front, so be careful!! If you get through some clinical time and decide it's not for you, you still owe all that money!!!  
  3. OP, If you can save some money on the pre-requisites, that would probably very smart. Ask YOUR school and make the arrangements with them. Remember, the dean has the final say.

Good luck. Keep us posted. I'm interested to see how things go.  Smile
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Messages In This Thread
UMPI Psychology - by Dreemichele - 10-05-2023, 02:11 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by origamishuttle - 10-05-2023, 02:46 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Dreemichele - 10-06-2023, 09:29 AM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Duneranger - 10-06-2023, 09:47 AM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Shyjbh - 10-06-2023, 10:10 AM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Duneranger - 10-06-2023, 10:23 AM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Dreemichele - 10-06-2023, 12:44 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Duneranger - 10-06-2023, 01:11 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Dreemichele - 10-06-2023, 01:38 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Duneranger - 10-06-2023, 02:44 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Shyjbh - 10-07-2023, 12:12 AM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Duneranger - 10-05-2023, 05:43 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by bjcheung77 - 10-05-2023, 07:39 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by rachel83az - 10-06-2023, 09:46 AM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by bjcheung77 - 10-06-2023, 07:55 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by Dreemichele - 10-06-2023, 10:00 PM
RE: UMPI Psychology - by bjcheung77 - 10-06-2023, 11:16 PM

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