ENEB Master Thread

[Thorne]

It is just more hype and twisting ourselves in knots. What are the underlying motives?  EBEB is unaccredited - the arrangements with  Isabel do not make the master regional accredited. Those two statements are facts, and I can prove them from my experience doing the ENEB/Isabel thing. Yes, do evaluation shopping, and you may find something that will confirm your hype but to what ends. I used my ENEB/Isabel's master and I worked for it but this board is misleading.

You keep saying this over and over and over again, but I don't see anyone arguing against this point.

I do want to point out, in the name of pedantry, that a degree from Oxford isn't regionally accredited either, despite being extremely prestigious, and that degrees from the University of Phoenix are regionally accredited despite being a laughing stock. Having a foreign credit evaluation also doesn't make any degree regionally accredited, because they are not accredited by regional accreditation agencies.

These things only speak to equivalency, so saying "ENEB isn't regionally accredited" is pretty obvious, especially since not even the more prestigious universities teaching Oficial degrees, like the Autonomous University of Barcelona, are actually "regionally accredited" under any circumstances I am aware of. Again, this is meant in the spirit of pedantry, not to argue that ENEB is equivalent to Oxford, but just to make a useless argument that is technically true but serves absolutely no purpose. 

On a more serious note, the facts, as we have them, are...
1. ENEB is not accredited
2. Isabel is accredited and recognized by Spain as a university
3. These arrangements are legitimate and common in Spain
4. This is a legal award in Spain
5. The degree has not yet been accepted as RA-equivalent Master's by a North American FCE provider
6. The degree has been accepted as an RA-equivalent Bachelor's by at least one USA-based FCE provider
7. One of the degrees has been accepted as a Master's-equivalent qualification by NARIC-Belgium, the rest as Advanced Bachelors (the sister forum has details)
8. These degrees have been used for admissions into USA RA-institutions (again, sister forum has details)

I don't see any hype in those 7, nor any bias. Them's the facts, plain and simple. Based on those facts, all of which I knew when I signed up for the program, I think it was a good decision for me and is something I would recommend for people with similar needs to my own. I have also steered people I know personally away from the program when they would not have benefitted from it.

Now, if you'll excuse me, from the moment I said "them's the facts," I've felt the urge to chew some tobacco, use the spittoon, and shoot some cartoon bottles with XXX written on the front with my sixgun...