04-06-2020, 07:01 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-06-2020, 07:12 AM by indigoshuffle.)
@terryd5150
"With certainty, Liberty didn't do themselves any favors with their recent actions; however, for clarity, I've never attended LU nor am I pro- or anti-LU...."
I don't subscribe to popular religious & political ideologies; I also don't take part in such discussions...."
"Is it to look for random comments from which to launch thinly veiled religious and political arguments, or are you genuinely interested in online & distance learning opportunities and how those might be utilized to realize your educational goals?"
There is no need to "thinly" veil anything. I can be blunt.
I'm an atheist. I also don't subscribe to ANY religious ideologies. As for politics, every one is political. Not being political, is political.
We are in the middle of a pandemic, and nearly everyday, I take care of people who refused to listen due to political reasons or religious reasons. I'm on the front lines and I personally see the fall out from people who refuse to listen, or claim that "it's just like the flu"... (which, by the way, is terrible in its own way).
So when a university professor or a college president reopens schools causing a surge of new infections and flooding an already overwhelmed healthcare system, I get angry. Why? Because for me it's very personal. And yes, I would question the quality of education at a school that pushes people towards their death in the middle of a pandemic, regardless of their accreditation.
"I use the following criteria when evaluating potential educational opportunities:
Using this criteria for ROI is fantastic, but it's also important to speak with people in the industry. Schools have their own marketing machines what can be different from reality from whatever they put on their website. Now if you are offended because a friend of mine dissuaded me from recommending online schools, then.... I don't know what to say.
Speaking with my "chemE colleague" does not mean I prescribe to his point of view, but since he works in the industry, I listen and factor that into my choices.
"To your larger point, though: if you identify so closely with your ChemE colleague's view of online education, why are you posting on a forum dedicated to online education?..."
Certainly not to offend you. Because you seem offended...I am posting on a forum dedicated to online education because I am a Registered Nurse who is attending WGU and I have significantly cut my cost of schooling by being a member here. Also, as you have read, I have helped many teenagers earn additional college credits. Some of them ask me about using ACE credits for Engineering which I know nothing about, so I can't really help them. Also, I've been strongly encouraged to avoid online classes as far as engineering goes, and especially medical school. By the way, I'll be done in three months!!!
"If it's the former, I'll gladly tap out now and leave you standing in the ring alone."
I never entered the ring, you did.
I do not wish this discussion to take over the main point of the thread, which should be about ALEKS. Specifically, ALEKS being free. It is not intended to be a thread committed to responding to someone who was clearly offended by my post and somehow took it as an attack.
If the moderators would like to move this to the off topic section, I could understand why.
"With certainty, Liberty didn't do themselves any favors with their recent actions; however, for clarity, I've never attended LU nor am I pro- or anti-LU...."
I don't subscribe to popular religious & political ideologies; I also don't take part in such discussions...."
"Is it to look for random comments from which to launch thinly veiled religious and political arguments, or are you genuinely interested in online & distance learning opportunities and how those might be utilized to realize your educational goals?"
There is no need to "thinly" veil anything. I can be blunt.
I'm an atheist. I also don't subscribe to ANY religious ideologies. As for politics, every one is political. Not being political, is political.
We are in the middle of a pandemic, and nearly everyday, I take care of people who refused to listen due to political reasons or religious reasons. I'm on the front lines and I personally see the fall out from people who refuse to listen, or claim that "it's just like the flu"... (which, by the way, is terrible in its own way).
So when a university professor or a college president reopens schools causing a surge of new infections and flooding an already overwhelmed healthcare system, I get angry. Why? Because for me it's very personal. And yes, I would question the quality of education at a school that pushes people towards their death in the middle of a pandemic, regardless of their accreditation.
"I use the following criteria when evaluating potential educational opportunities:
- Accreditation: does the school have a solid history?
- Likewise with programmatic accreditation, as applicable.
- Does the school offer a program with an AOS & curriculum that supports my career objectives?
- Accessibility & scheduling: does the school offer a program that fits within my time constraints?
- Transfer credit policies, specifically regarding nationally-accredited and non-traditional credits (ACE/NCCRS/CLEP, etc.).
- Financials: does the required investment make sense for the expected return?
Using this criteria for ROI is fantastic, but it's also important to speak with people in the industry. Schools have their own marketing machines what can be different from reality from whatever they put on their website. Now if you are offended because a friend of mine dissuaded me from recommending online schools, then.... I don't know what to say.
Speaking with my "chemE colleague" does not mean I prescribe to his point of view, but since he works in the industry, I listen and factor that into my choices.
"To your larger point, though: if you identify so closely with your ChemE colleague's view of online education, why are you posting on a forum dedicated to online education?..."
Certainly not to offend you. Because you seem offended...I am posting on a forum dedicated to online education because I am a Registered Nurse who is attending WGU and I have significantly cut my cost of schooling by being a member here. Also, as you have read, I have helped many teenagers earn additional college credits. Some of them ask me about using ACE credits for Engineering which I know nothing about, so I can't really help them. Also, I've been strongly encouraged to avoid online classes as far as engineering goes, and especially medical school. By the way, I'll be done in three months!!!
"If it's the former, I'll gladly tap out now and leave you standing in the ring alone."
I never entered the ring, you did. I do not wish this discussion to take over the main point of the thread, which should be about ALEKS. Specifically, ALEKS being free. It is not intended to be a thread committed to responding to someone who was clearly offended by my post and somehow took it as an attack.
If the moderators would like to move this to the off topic section, I could understand why.
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