03-19-2020, 01:06 PM
(03-18-2020, 07:07 PM)xicovu Wrote:(03-18-2020, 06:54 PM)dfrecore Wrote:(03-18-2020, 06:43 PM)xicovu Wrote: The best career advice I can give anybody is don't worry about your degree or certs past what it takes to get past HR. Your manager and the team hiring you will not care. This goes for IT/CS master's degrees that aren't MBA or management as well. BS + one good expert level cert is going to be the best thing for tech careers.
Again, you are ONLY looking at this very narrowly. My husband has specifically been asked to get certs to keep partner status many times, and been hired because he has the cert to keep partner status as well. This is VERY important to some companies.
He also got an AWS cert, and about 2 days later was contacted by Amazon to come and work there. He got an offer, but decided not to take it for various reasons. I'm not saying the only reason he got offered the job was the cert, but it certainly opened up the door for him.
You are only looking at this from one particular angle, it does not apply to all certs, to all jobs, to all companies. I feel bad for anyone taking advice from you, because you don't try to see this from other ways. You do not know everything about IT, but you act like you do. You aren't the first here, and you won't be the last I suppose.
You always seem to make these threads about you and your husband. If WGU B.S. Cloud Computing and certs meet his needs, great. Outside of Sales, Consulting, or anyone needing "Partner" status, nobody wants or cares about certs. Operations & Engineering teams do not care. We can argue this all you want, but I'm a senior level engineer with zero certs & no degree. It is terrible career advise to recommend someone chase degrees and certifications without knowing technology in depth. This place is an awesome resource to get that checkbox out of the way, but people still need to become experts. None of this advise is specifically given to you, and can probably benefit other people looking at this career path. I wouldn't recommend this degree to anyone.
I make these threads about actual people to which your advice does not apply, and to point out to anyone reading them now or in the future that what you are saying does NOT apply to everyone.
I have never told anyone to chase a degree or certificate. I am just saying that you are ONLY looking at this from one point of view. Not everyone in the IT world is in Ops & Engineering. For anyone in "Sales, Consulting, or needing partner status", what you are saying does NOT APPLY. And I know a LOT of people who are in sales and consulting. A lot. Many of whom don't have degrees, and would do well to get one at some point, one that they could do quickly and cheaply, to unlock a door or two.
MANY, MANY, MANY people come here to get a check-the-box degree. Probably more than anything else. I've been on this forum for 7+ years, with 10,000+ posts, helping people get degrees, creating thousands of degree plans, and I would say the vast majority are check-the-box in a general or specific area. You've been on this forum for 1-2 months, with 50+ posts, and you act as if you're an expert in IT, and in degrees, but you've barely had a chance to see what people are doing here.
All I'm saying is to qualify your statements. A little "for anyone who wants to go into Ops or Engineering, then a more in-depth knowledge of technology is important. Here are the things you can do:" would go a long way to making you sound like you're the expert you portray on here. Instead of telling everyone who's been doing this for YEARS that you're right and they're wrong.
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