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PhD IT, $383 PCH, Bachelors entry, thoughts!?
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(12-06-2018, 01:01 PM)armstrongsubero Wrote: @verenaf I dont know what your background is, but here are some things I know.

Computer Science is NOT programming.
Information Techology is NOT computer science.
Engineering Technology is NOT engineering.
Information Science is NOT Data Science.

These are all differnt fields people tend to confuse for some reason.
By your logic if my IT program and CS program both have Database Management and Operating Systems they are the same program?

Please dont confise disciplines like that.

BTW as a point of reference engineering technology is applied engineering. That dosent mean they are the same.

i am not speaking on the equivalency of the terms at all, im simply speaking to the notion that this particular degree can be dismissed as 'it management' when the majority , if not all of the courses use and teach technical skills. its fine to not like a program but to dismiss it so derogatively without merit is a whole other thing.


so there's no 'logic' to apply to any other extreme case.

as to why people may 'confuse' terms, its the industry, which to some matters way more than what's printed on any paper.

there are people who are data scientists by position that work all day in excel running prebuilt models

and analysts by title who develop models

programmers who do more analysis than analysts and more data science than data scientists

programmers who do less programming than someone at ...

helpdesk who has to do scripts because they do just as much as

network admins in other places who just reset passwords

"it people" who do more programming than anyone

you get the idea....

in the industry, all of these titles are thrown around randomly. years ago they all would require a "comp sci" degree even though traditional "comp sci" didnt teach half of what would have been needed to be successful. this is a big reason for the rise of certs in the late 90s/early 00s.

and thusly a wider variance of what is covered in some of these programs....and a wider variety of names for them.

comp sci programs in a lot of schools have become a looser variant of traditional math-based computer science to reach a wider audience, to teach more skills that will be of wider practical use, and so on. a "comp sci" program at 4 diff schools is likely to be completely different.

if you're a purist, there are schools out there for you. if you want practical skills, there are schools out there for you.

i have looked at a lot of programs and for my next degree, i want interesting classes that make way to interesting research opportunities. i really don't care what the name is.

i have a b & m masters in CS.....but i did it for the prefix, not because i want to walk around better than anyone.

there is a bubble in which all that other stuff matters.....outside of it, nobody cares.
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RE: PhD IT, $383 PCH, Bachelors entry, thoughts!? - by verenaf - 12-06-2018, 01:27 PM

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