Have you had problems with the class approval, appeal and grievance process at TESU?

[TESUstudent]

I know I went through an appeal; and although I did not get the credit applied (evaluated) the way I had hoped, I can say it definitely was handed off and escalated to the proper school administrator(s) within the university.   It was for a course I had earned credit for at a B&M prior to applying to TESU; not something I took at another school as an enrolled TESU student and planned in advance (with advising) as a set transfer equivalency to fit my TESU degree program and then have it applied as something totally different.

The TESU's appeal process is clearly stated on their site, I assume you took the escalation steps outlined: https://www.tesu.edu/academics/catalog/p...guidelines

Yes, I went through the whole process and I am not saying this because the decision didnt go the way I hoped, I can honestly say that they are deceptive, the appeals process is a sham and they should be reported.

I am not interested in University trolls burying my posting with positive reviews, I am only interested in those who have similar stories contacting me, that is the purpose of this thread, so please do so and refrain from other use of this thread. Thank you.

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a 400-level Biochemistry Course at the University of California San Diego Extension.

The details are not important, what is telling, I think, is the process, which was fraught with dishonesty, and I believe that I am not alone in this experience.
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I think we can collectively force the issue to be addressed.

There are usually ways to remedy these kinds of situations in a way that is much more likely to gain results. There is an escalation process. If your advisor doesn't approve your request, and you have grounds for appeal, you can appeal through the evaluations team (which is where it sounds like you ended up). If that doesn't work out, you can escalate to the dean of the college within TESU that your degree applies to. If that doesn't work or you don't feel it is impartial, you can appeal from there up to TESU's president. If that doesn't work then I suspect you may be out of luck. Appealing to the accrediting board will not do anything. From there you may be better off just changing schools.

Not to mention, even if you have a legit grievance, TESU is known for being one of the most flexible institutions when it comes to accepting credits. As long as the school is RA and the course doesn't duplicate something else on your transcript, you should get credit. It may not always apply the way you think it should (i.e., it isn't guaranteed to meet a degree requirement for a specific course), but you will get credit for it.

How a transfer course is evaluated is usually dependent on a comparison of learning outcomes/syllabus of the external course vs a TESU course to determine where to slot it at TESU. If TESU doesn't offer a comparable course, it may get slotted as an X99 course.

I don't know on what basis you're making your impartiality claim, but you must also keep in mind that the advisory team's job to help you select courses within TESU, they are not well informed about transfer credits or even how that process works in many cases.

As for the dishonesty/misleading stuff. I don't believe the advisors intend to be dishonest but they are known for being wrong... a lot. I think it is generally a lack of communication within the TESU advisory organization. When the advisors don't know the answer to a question (which happens a lot with transfer credit), or don't know for sure, it often seems like they will just make an educated guess or assumption rather than running down the answer and confirming it internally. But in many cases those guesses are wrong.

So yeah, they definitely need to fix the communications problems and improve their customer service and response speeds, but those are outside the realm of the accreditation body's purview. My guess is the team is probably short-handed due to tight budgets and are putting in minimal effort to try to get as many things done as possible.

In any case, I think you should try to get the dean of your school (and/or the president of the university) on the phone first to air your issues. That is the most likely way to get a result. Trying to get them in trouble with their accreditation board is unlikely to provide the results you're looking for. Particularly given that schools aren't required to accept transfer credits at all.

Yes, I went through the whole process and I am not saying this because the decision didnt go the way I hoped, I can honestly say that they are deceptive, the appeals process is a sham and they should be reported.

I am not interested in University trolls burying my posting with positive reviews, I am only interested in those who have similar stories contacting me, that is the purpose of this thread, so please do so and refrain from other use of this thread. Thank you.

My contact: shoshanafeu@gmail.com

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Yes, I went through the whole process and I am not saying this because the decision didnt go the way I hoped, I can honestly say that they are deceptive, the appeals process is a sham and they should be reported.

I am not interested in University trolls burying my posting with positive reviews, I am only interested in those who have similar stories contacting me, that is the purpose of this thread, so please do so and refrain from other use of this thread. Thank you.

My contact: shoshanafeu@gmail.com

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I thought that UCSD Extension specifically said that they don't do for-credit courses?  I think that may be the problem, especially if they've changed over the years.  Some of the other UC Extension schools do have for-credit courses, but some don't.

They most certainly have for credit courses, and this was clearly one, confirmed in writing in an email from them that was both received by myself and TESU.

Yes, I went through the whole process and I am not saying this because the decision didnt go the way I hoped, I can honestly say that they are deceptive, the appeals process is a sham and they should be reported.

I am not interested in University trolls burying my posting with positive reviews, I am only interested in those who have similar stories contacting me, that is the purpose of this thread, so please do so and refrain from other use of this thread. Thank you.

My contact: shoshanafeu@gmail.com

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I thought that UCSD Extension specifically said that they don't do for-credit courses?  I think that may be the problem, especially if they've changed over the years.  Some of the other UC Extension schools do have for-credit courses, but some don't.

They have a small list of college degree credits, and biochemistry is not on it.

That is a lie. I have an email from their office that confirms that it is for credit, and it can be easily seen on their web site that it is for credit.



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- Dishonesty or misleading information given by academic advisors
- Courses turned down for no reason other than to force one to take courses at TESU and not elsewhere

I think that being uninformed, or just plain dumb, is not going to be considered dishonest (which to me sounds like purposely telling you incorrect info).  But I could be wrong.

Turning down a course because it's not college-credit-granted coursework, even if it's from an RA school is not for no reason.  And, TESU will take courses from all over the place, so saying that it forces you to specifically take it from them is not really true.  Now, the advisor may have offered for you to take it there - that's their job.  But if you would have actually taken the course, or a similar one, at an RA school as a regular course (like UCSD itself), TESU would accept it.

I really don't think you have much of a case here.  I can't see exactly what they did wrong, although maybe they didn't have a good explanation for why they weren't accepting the course - or at least, didn't tell you what the reason was.  I'm almost positive that they did not say "we won't take it from there, you'll have to take it here to get credit."  Just a guess.

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And, I just looked, and TESU doesn't even offer any sort of BioChem course, or any UL Chem courses at all (and only 1 UL Bio course).  So I can't quite figure out which course they would have steered you towards for replacement for the course you're saying they wouldn't take because they wanted to take that course with them.  It just doesn't make any sense.

Yes, I went through the whole process and I am not saying this because the decision didnt go the way I hoped, I can honestly say that they are deceptive, the appeals process is a sham and they should be reported.

I am not interested in University trolls burying my posting with positive reviews, I am only interested in those who have similar stories contacting me, that is the purpose of this thread, so please do so and refrain from other use of this thread. Thank you.

My contact: shoshanafeu@gmail.com