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Bennett Hypothesis: Financial Aid Increases Tuition
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(06-30-2018, 03:05 AM)alexf.1990 Wrote:
(06-30-2018, 02:41 AM)dfrecore Wrote:
(06-30-2018, 12:11 AM)alexf.1990 Wrote: I don't see how any of this is a defense against illegal immigration? It wasn't very long ago that labor unions were one of the strongest voices against flooding the labor market with cheap, unskilled labor. I can't see how the working class gets any benefit from illegal immigration. If anything, it seems to have been one of the biggest obstacles to higher wages. Raising the minimum wage above the market price will simply increase the amount of surplus labor (unemployment). The only way to meaningfully raise wages is to decrease the number of unskilled workers in the labor market.

Cesar Chavez himself was completely 100% against illegal immigration for these exact reasons, AND the fact that it took advantage of he illegals.  It's a lose-lose.

It's just the political parties looking out for their own interests. Republicans want cheap labor for agriculture and Democrats want to increase the Hispanic voting bloc. Meanwhile, wages are going down for Americans and the home countries of these immigrants are losing their most productive citizens. The problem is even more pronounced with H1B visas and student visas that siphon off the intelligentsia of developing countries.

Here is one of the more coherent arguments against mass immigration from a leftist perspective. But for the need to inflate the hispanic voting bloc, this would be the position of everyone on the left. Instead, anyone who doesn't want the country overwhelmed with cheap, foreign labor is called a bigot. Whats even more bizarre is that this influx of unskilled immigrants disproportionately puts negative wage pressures on black communities.

https://berniesanders.com/open-borders-a...-solution/

How come Dfrecore isn't calling this bigotry of low expectations? She won't because she's highly partisan just like Sapientes is. Are black people only capable of doing unskilled labor? I'm black and no undocumented immigrant has taken my job. I don't need to be a nanny, housekeeper, construction worker, or fruit picker to make a living. Illegal immigration doesn't affect white people? Are white people too good for these jobs?

(06-30-2018, 02:41 AM)dfrecore Wrote:
(06-30-2018, 12:11 AM)alexf.1990 Wrote: I don't see how any of this is a defense against illegal immigration? It wasn't very long ago that labor unions were one of the strongest voices against flooding the labor market with cheap, unskilled labor. I can't see how the working class gets any benefit from illegal immigration. If anything, it seems to have been one of the biggest obstacles to higher wages. Raising the minimum wage above the market price will simply increase the amount of surplus labor (unemployment). The only way to meaningfully raise wages is to decrease the number of unskilled workers in the labor market.

Cesar Chavez himself was completely 100% against illegal immigration for these exact reasons, AND the fact that it took advantage of he illegals.  It's a lose-lose.

Most people on the left are not for open borders. They see countries like Japan, which has a low birthrate, and they're struggling to fill certain types of jobs. The left mostly takes issue with xenophobia and racism. When you generalize a group of people as being rapists and drug dealers, it's not about jobs. When Trump supporters are randomly harassing Hispanics automatically assuming that they're here illegally, it's not about jobs. When people are attacked for speaking Spanish, it's not about jobs. When membership in white supremacist groups is growing and hate crimes against people of color are becoming more frequent, it's not about jobs. Political science research has found that Trump didn't win because of economic concerns. He won because of fears of changing demographics.

When Trump asks why we accept so many people from sh*thole countries instead of Norway, it's not about jobs. He specifically mentioned Africa. Because he's an uneducated idiot, he doesn't know that African immigrants tend to be more educated than the average American. Nigerian immigrants are the most educated group in the U.S., and their median income is above the national median. As people who are not here on H1B visas, I've seen a disproportionate number of Nigerians in criminal justice jobs the government has difficulty filling.

White people aren't making a stink over illegal immigration because they care so much about black people. Give me a break. Every group puts themselves first. The good-paying manufacturing jobs many black people had aren't gone because of illegal immigration. They're gone because they went overseas. But, some of you, with your REAL soft bigotry of low expectations, think that black people should be content with being your nannies.
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