06-16-2018, 11:00 PM
(This post was last modified: 06-16-2018, 11:16 PM by MeOldChina.)
(06-16-2018, 01:13 PM)dfrecore Wrote: Not sure when you got your degree OE800_85, but Khan Academy now has Multivariable Calculus, Differential Equations, and Linear Algebra.
They also have courses for the AP exams - Physics 1 & 2, Chem & Bio - so you could use those to study for the CLEP exams if you wanted to instead of taking the courses.
I forgot to mention, you only put the Spanish & French CLEP exams as 6cr each, but if you score high enough, you can get 9cr each. AND, if you want a quick and easy way to get additional credits for those languages, you can take the ACTFL OPIc exams (about $100 and 20 min each) and get 12cr that don't overlap with the CLEP. That would take a bunch of the courses you might need for the Gen Ed Electives out, leaving you with more time to do the math stuff.
That's great, thanks! My Spanish is much stronger than my French, so I'm updating my degree plan after reading what you wrote. For the other stuff I've already been using Khan and PatrickJMT. Their approaches are a little different, but they're good teachers. I'm trying to substitute the non-math, non-physics and non-CS stuff for free/cheap options and the beginner's guide was useful for that.
(06-16-2018, 02:21 AM)OE800_85 Wrote: Hey I think the advice above is spot on but I wanted to add that I successfully completed my BA in Math at TESU and am extremely happy that I did. Here are some observations I'd like to share:
Learning Resources:
0. Khan Academy. Khan Academy. Khan Academy. Khan Academy...did I mention use khan academy? They won't give you credit but for everything leading up to calc 2 they've really got you covered, it also helps with filling the gaps in Algebra knowledge you likely have from our wonderful public education institutions. It's too bad they haven't expanded their content for things going past AP Calc BC, but maybe in the future.
1. 3Blue1Brown...I recommend you don't watch these videos until you get to Linear Algebra, he's really rigorous in his approach, but the intuition series with animations on Vectors, Matrices, and even Calculus were mind blowing for me.
2. PatrickJMT. If you just need to watch a guy go through a specific type of problem, he's your man. A good supplement to mr khan who's got a different "voice"
Cheap sources of credit:
1. I'm quite sure you can get Calc 1 and 2 credit easily without a course, as I recall straighterline had these covered.
2. ALEKS: I was able to get the max credit out of them but unfortunately it seems harder and harder for ACE credit to be recognized at all, maybe I'm wrong about this.
3. The CLEP tests for math are a joke. If you are competent in Calc I and II, no study is required for their college algebra test.
Courses at TESC:
Personally I found the TESC courses not super demanding but you gotta make sure the deadlines don't creep up on you, it's hard to discipline yourself to get it done in pieces, be sure to lay out your own schedule with consequences when you don't meet the deadlines you set for yourself.
That being said, I would order the difficulty of the math courses I took as follows:
College Geometry (can't believe this is senior level credit, high school content)
History of Math (not really a math course, time consuming, but engaging)
Intro to Stats (This is really high school material, you should be fine)
Discrete Math (arguably the most fun course, especially if you're into CS)
Mathematical Logic (kinda like discrete math, lots of ties to CS, but more abstract)
Calc III (Take it when Calc 2 is fresh in your head, these courses really build on one another)
Linear Algebra (this course was a pain, the text feels like it's written in another language and it's a real killer, mainly because of how hard to conceptualize the topics and understand what you're actually doing, but alas every mathematician must get through it)
Mathematical Modeling (I was the most excited about this course but beware, it's the real deal. Closest thing to a graduate course in mathematics doing what real mathematicians do. I failed and ended up switching this class out)
Also, start with 1 course at a time. You're much better off focusing on one branch at a time and getting through it at a faster pace than several at once. Don't enroll until you've gotten all the testing credits out of the way. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I'll give you my e-mail address, I'm not on here often.
Have you thought about what career path you're considering using this degree for? For me it was teaching.
Best of luck, we need as many math people out there we can get.
This is a really helpful post - thanks so much! It's great to hear from someone who has already completed the degree. It sounds like most of the exams and courses you took were quite breezy until Linear Algebra and Mathematical Modeling. I'm studying Linear Algebra at the moment so hopefully I'll be in a good position to get a good score, as it will be a while until I take the exam. As for Mathematical Modeling, I also want to take this course, partly out of interest and partly because I might want to do something math-related at graduate level. Did you find any useful study resources, or do you have any tips for preparing in advance? Do you feel that you would have been able to pass if you'd had a longer time to study in advance?
I take your point about studying for one course at a time, but I organize my study into morning and evening sessions - mornings for the courses/exams coming up (one at a time), and then mathematical concepts in general for a couple hours before I go to bed. The reason I do this is that I'm afraid that someday I'll start studying a new course with lots of new ideas that I might struggle to get to grips with in a limited time frame. I'm not particularly smart or quick-thinking , but I think I can go the distance if I put in the work necessary to master each concept.
Thanks for the PM offer if I have any questions. I'll send you a PM with my email after I post this. No doubt the time will come when I need some help! I'm also thinking about teaching, but I'm not 100% about it - I really like CS, Physics, Engineering and Robotics too, so there is a chance I might try to do a graduate degree in one of those fields. I'm hoping that learning more and progressing through this degree will help me choose a clearer path.