11-07-2017, 07:57 AM
(This post was last modified: 11-07-2017, 08:04 AM by cookderosa.)
While it is plausible that changing from quarter to semester hour would have screwed over her/a lot of students, graduation is a clear process that results in an actual degree. Leaving college with credit (in any amount) doesn't make you a graduate.
An associate degree is 90 quarter credits (60 semester hours) so if it is roughly the same set up as a 20-class associate, she would have earned 4.5 credits per course and it would have been a seamless transition. Every 4.5 would have = 3.0 and she'd be fine. (plus, it would be reasonable that the college wouldn't have required anyone to meet any requirements that weren't already part of their catalog)
If her college used 3.0 quarter credits, each would only come in as 2.68, which can be a problem (we've seen that often at TESU and how they handle it)
BUT- this is the smoking gun:
"Tammy Smith, coordinator of Admissions and Records at NRCC, wrote in an email on Monday the school does have dates of attendance for Dana Partin (whose maiden name is Altizer) during the fall of 1987 through spring 1996 with some enrollment breaks during that time."
She wasn't a full time enrolled student that was wronged, she was an on-again-off-again student who wasn't locked into a catalog or working with a permanent advisor. When the college changed systems, her credit calculation showed she needed extra courses - maybe even electives- and she opted not to do it. She presents a picture of a student who went to high school and then college (traditionally) but the truth (which is much more common) is that she spent 9 years working on this degree- which she never did finish.
She doesn't get my vote (as if anyone is asking lol) because she lied about her education for an education position. I don't think anyone would have cared otherwise, but it shows disrespect for the nuances of the education system - so for that reason, I'm out.
This isn't really the same, but reminded me of a situation about 7 years ago. There were a bunch of chefs assembling to form a committee, and you had to have a bachelor's degree. I posted this on my personal FB page, and a former student of mine stepped forward. (my student's earned associate degrees). He told me he'd love to be onboard and his bachelor's was from UNLV. So, we all went forward. My task was to collect documents, so when I messaged him to send me a diploma, he back peddled and told me he didn't have one, but was only "1 class short" of graduating and should still be on the committee. I asked him why he didn't just go back and do that last class, he said it was so long ago now and he was so busy that he just didn't have time and wasn't going to bother. He didn't get on the committee, however, in his chef biography, he absolutely has his UNLV "degree" listed!
An associate degree is 90 quarter credits (60 semester hours) so if it is roughly the same set up as a 20-class associate, she would have earned 4.5 credits per course and it would have been a seamless transition. Every 4.5 would have = 3.0 and she'd be fine. (plus, it would be reasonable that the college wouldn't have required anyone to meet any requirements that weren't already part of their catalog)
If her college used 3.0 quarter credits, each would only come in as 2.68, which can be a problem (we've seen that often at TESU and how they handle it)
BUT- this is the smoking gun:
"Tammy Smith, coordinator of Admissions and Records at NRCC, wrote in an email on Monday the school does have dates of attendance for Dana Partin (whose maiden name is Altizer) during the fall of 1987 through spring 1996 with some enrollment breaks during that time."
She wasn't a full time enrolled student that was wronged, she was an on-again-off-again student who wasn't locked into a catalog or working with a permanent advisor. When the college changed systems, her credit calculation showed she needed extra courses - maybe even electives- and she opted not to do it. She presents a picture of a student who went to high school and then college (traditionally) but the truth (which is much more common) is that she spent 9 years working on this degree- which she never did finish.
She doesn't get my vote (as if anyone is asking lol) because she lied about her education for an education position. I don't think anyone would have cared otherwise, but it shows disrespect for the nuances of the education system - so for that reason, I'm out.
This isn't really the same, but reminded me of a situation about 7 years ago. There were a bunch of chefs assembling to form a committee, and you had to have a bachelor's degree. I posted this on my personal FB page, and a former student of mine stepped forward. (my student's earned associate degrees). He told me he'd love to be onboard and his bachelor's was from UNLV. So, we all went forward. My task was to collect documents, so when I messaged him to send me a diploma, he back peddled and told me he didn't have one, but was only "1 class short" of graduating and should still be on the committee. I asked him why he didn't just go back and do that last class, he said it was so long ago now and he was so busy that he just didn't have time and wasn't going to bother. He didn't get on the committee, however, in his chef biography, he absolutely has his UNLV "degree" listed!