dfrecore Wrote:I totally get your point, but what is the answer then? Do we restrict this forum to never saying that a course is easy? Do the moderators delete posts about that if we don't self-police? How do we get info out to everyone who wants it, without talking about them and their relative ease?
I guess I just don't know what it is you think this forum should become if you think it's what made changes (all bad) to TESU's policies over the years.
And again, if someone from TESU is monitoring this forum, why in the world are they not using any of the info from everyone's complaints to GET BETTER!?!? I can't figure that one out.
I don't think all experiences between TESU and the forum members have been bad. If not for some of the members on this forum, as mentioned earlier, many of the alternate methods of credit would never have been approved. Personally, I think easy is not the best term when referring to certain courses you know will be scrutinized. I felt the TECEP was a "better choice" than the actual course because the course had a lot more as Cook would say "busy work." I've often described the course as brutal because of the amount of work that was involved and found the TECEP, although difficult, a better choice if you could fully digest and memorize all the required information. Especially for those who have appropriate practical experience. Do you see the point I'm trying to make here?
Over the years I've recommended many courses/exams always mindful of others watching. I then use PM to have a much more open dialogue. As we all know, the forum provides specific feedback threads to share information with members. Wouldn't put it past a school to sign up just to poke around, but it's geared towards CLEP/DSST, proprietary and marketed as a tool used to complement the flashcards. Also think there was a reason so many of the M/C TECEPs were revised to the combination M/C & essay format.
ETA: Some may view essays as a more difficult testing method, I would disagree. I find essays actually benefit the tester due to points given for partial answers.
Regarding the school and it's customer service/support issues. This has been the case for a long time and as Sanantone stated, has gotten better over the years. BTW, most do not share the problems with TESU some on this forum have experienced; more on that later. I had a bit of an argument with one adviser, previously mentioned; I quickly learned to thank the person, hang up and call back. There was a second individual many also despised who, once I understood her way of thinking, became a huge help to me over my final year.
Overall, I think TESU would benefit from hiring a few individuals who come out of an alternative credit degree program. All of their employees tend to be traditional which, in my opinion, is the main reason behind all the conflicts between alternative credit seeking students (DF) and staff. They simply don't understand us sometimes. A fact that, early on, I had a hard time comprehending. I mean, in NJ they are considered an alternative method (adult) institution. But upon asking, I was informed they were geared towards adults and military taking and/or transferring credits from multiple schools, not so much the testing, Ace, etc. When I first started, testing was actually used more by military students. TESU has grown, often times painfully, over the years in accepting all the alternative methods known and generously used by DF members.
I'm not trying to make any sweeping declarations here, just offering my own personal thoughts/experiences and as always, YMMV.
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