Why Charter Oak State College is better than Thomas Edison State College

[KittenMittens]

Again with your assumptions on how people think and what is best for other people.
People have completed PLA's at TESC and had no problem.

Yeah, I think I speak for more people than you. People like instant results, and things on a silver platter rather than by grinding and working significantly harder. As they say, "Work smart, not hard" if possible at least. Day laborers physically hard but they get paid pennies, professionals, managers, or whomever is paid higher on the socioeconomic totem pole knows how to prioritize and delegate responsibilities efficiently because they know their time is valuable and that someone else can do the work for them. Some enjoy busting their chops, most don't. Most people don't spend all day on the forums like Sanantone with 5000 posts day in and day out for years, and don't have that level of commitment to reading several textbooks for the sake of saving a few grand. Most people have the attention span of a cat, and can read a page of text more easily 1000 pages. That’s so obvious that I’m not even going to entertain the notion you’re arguing. ‘Nuff said.

Again with assumptions on how others think. SOME people read textbooks for fun.

You’ve indicated a dislike to taking easy exams to get a college degree quickly, yet you’re guilty of the same thing by taking a lot of easy credits through non-traditional means like ALEKS, and Straighterline which are not really immersive college courses. You too are trying to get credit as easily as possible, otherwise you'd really should be going through more arduous, and involved courses. Most people don’t like to read textbooks for fun. It’s like me saying that most people don’t find fat people attractive, I probably couldn't test this idea easily, but it’s something generally not disputed much, and one can logically infer that that's highly possible. Of course, I’m not here to prove this to you, that’s for any spectator to decide for themselves.

Read post number 5. you were given clear information regarding the per credit tuition plan, YOU are choosing to ignore the information you are being given. How many backups do you need? it is clear to everyone on this forum, it is on TESC's website, it has been said several times in this thread. What more do you need to understand? is it really that difficult for you to understand?

Considering this is a 176 post thread, I'm not going to remember each and every exact little point word for word. You stated you can do the 24 credit residency without doing TECEPS - ok if you’re going to be THAT pedantic, yes you can do PLA or take TESC courses, but that’s going to jack up your total cost by several thousand dollars which defeats the purpose. For all intents and purposes, people are interested in the “per credit option” for the cheapness and that’s through TECEPs. Now you’re just grasping for straws and arguing like Sanantone did. Yes, you're technically right there are 2 other ways to get credit through the "per credit" plan through TESC and that's through PLA or taking courses, but you can't make the argument it's the cheapest any longer, which defeats the purpose of graduating with a degree that is cheap, convenient, quick, and relatively easy to do.

Even on Degree Forum Wiki someone states, “For the same cost of a "portfolio" - around $450 and 3 months, with no guarantee you will actually get any credit - you can take 3 CLEP tests and receive 9-18 credits! (30 if you passed 3 general subject tests and aced a foreign language test)”

Do you really think TESC created the "per credit" tuition plan for TECEP takers?

I don’t care who they created it for - none of these colleges originally designed these programs for people to completely test out of it - it’s just that clever people figured out streamlined and efficient paths in doing so. Again arguing a trivial point.

Your reading comprehension skills are questionable...nowhere did I state that I struggled with statistics. It is interesting the way you make inferences, assumptions, and conclusions, very interesting.

Nice ad hominem attack; though I wouldn't be so sure with the reasoning, reading skills, and mathematical skills you possess or possibly lack. And not that I'm trying to brag, I get paid north of 6 figures a year analyzing data for a living and using statistics on a daily basis in my profession, so that statement doesn't really bother me that much. You do also state in a previous post, “I spent a long time learning statistics and then completed the ALEKS course, but according to you it's fluff? I looked at your plan and it's impossible for me to follow, I can't do FEMA and I can't do CLEP tests. Your plan doesn't work for me, and quite a number of others that visit this forum.” I don’t know but to me, you seemed to imply that you struggled with statistics, and couldn't handle FEMA, and CLEPs with the way you word things. Normally, I'd figure the typical student would just need to go through ALEKS material, which is already pretty simple to pass and designed to be pretty accessible, but maybe that's just not the case for everyone.

You don't need to understand statistics to know that people share negative things more than they share positive.

And with that said, I’m done talking about this with you if the best argument you’ve got is “you don’t need to understand statistics to know people share negative things more.” A tremendous amount of people don’t take TECEPs for the reasons I’ve mentioned before and you’re trying your hardest to ignore or deny the statistics and the obvious things that are right in front of your face. Then again you believe it’s better or that the typical person would enjoy reading several textbooks over taking much easier exams for the “sake of learning.” Whatever, again I’m not trying to convince you or any of the other forum regulars, or their cheerleaders who perhaps spend too much time here or are too emotionally invested in their own beliefs.

You also stated that you spent hundreds of hours reading the forums etc. So you would know that people here have shared info about TECEPs and have completed a degree using them. You would also know that people share specific information on certain TECEPs and that there are courses available for quite a few TECEPs. Your problem is that you are choosing to ignore all the positive information.

Oh I looked, the overwhelming consensus as I’ve shown through comments, test submitted data, thread submissions, lack of instantcert flashcards and so on so evidently display it.

Your 'data' is biased and inaccurate.

Well considering you’ve failed to provide any empirical evidence for your assertions, you haven’t swayed me at all; and when you have a strong(er) background statistics besides that joke ALEKS course, then I’ll take that statement a little more seriously.

I won't point out how many personal remarks you have made throughout this entire thread.
Maybe you should read back yourself and think about that.

Pot calling the kettle black, and you’ve not-so-subtly made personal remarks as well and argued trivial details to the point of absurdity. I’ve probably made the least number of personal remarks compared to the racist that got banned, or Sanantone who raged quite a bit and wanted to censor me for disagreeing with her, questioned my fluency in English for being Indian, and personally attacking me on several occasions when I exposed the flaws in her reasoning. I’d have expected much more than that from her, but apparently I was wrong. Anyways, since we can’t come to any consensus on anything, let’s just agree to disagree. You’ve failed to convince me, and I, you, so there’s no point pursuing this discussion between us any further as it’s just become repetitive.

Best of luck on your endeavors, I'm sure you'll do fine.